On February 01 2013 21:45 duckmaster wrote:
So? He improved. No one is born a champion.
So? He improved. No one is born a champion.
Uhh... I think youre missing the point.
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:45 duckmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:44 liberate71 wrote: On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. Wasn't Naniwa like 0-10 in Code A before the season he got into Round of 8? So? He improved. No one is born a champion. Uhh... I think youre missing the point. | ||
Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. 2012 2013 | ||
Vindicare605
United States16036 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:43 decado90 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:42 Vindicare605 wrote: On February 01 2013 21:40 derpface wrote: On February 01 2013 21:37 Weryeery wrote: Terran hard race right? lol... just admit Bogus is more skilled than Stephano. They were a good match for each other. I dont want to jump to any conclusions about who's more skilled by just one series. Innovation made the Semis last season and beat a lot of top Zergs to get there. he's definitely quality. But Stephano stuck right there with him and in the same night also outclassed Hack. He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out. No harm in that, better players than him have said the same thing. Code S is tough and Stephano just learned that firsthand. Are you serious dude? Bogus is so much better than Stephano. He actually has a chance to win the GSL for starters. Dead serious. Stephano is a superior macro player in general IMO but Innovation beat him using superior decision making and early game tactics. A lot of that has to do with a probable lack of preparation on Stephano's part which is normal considering that GSL is much different than any of the marathon foreigner events he's used to playing. I think given time to adjust more to the way GSL is played as well as some better scouting I think Stephano could take him in a long series. His game number 2 was about as one sided as a TvZ can possibly be which tells me that if Innovation doesn't manage to secure an early advantage somehow that Stephano will crush him with his superior late game. It's a normal dynamic between players of similar skill level. Again I'm not trying to buy into the blind Stephano hype that a lot of his fans have I'm just trying to be objective about the series I watched just now. He totally outclassed hack and looked like he had Innovation's number once it hit the later game his Achilles heel was his early game and if he can somehow shore that up with better preparation I think he can beat Innovation in a series. Nothing against Innovation I think he's a terrific Terran but that's just the way I see it. | ||
Morale
Sweden1010 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:45 Sejanus wrote: Show nested quote + He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out. All groups are tough in Code S. 8 zergs made out of their tough groups. Stephano didn't. So Leenock is over-rated and shit etc etc? | ||
TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:44 SHODAN wrote: Artosis mentioned something about swarmy mass raxx style builds in Brood War. A few season ago, MVP went for a 5 rax into 7 rax build vs Parting. Bogus did the same thing - attack fast, upgrade steadily, expand slowly and trade well. Stephano ![]() Problem is that it is more of a surprise/gimmick build. All 3 races have ways to deal with it fairly easily if scouted. Terrans with bunkers into tanks. Protoss with sentries before getting colossi. Zerg with lots of lings and banes. | ||
AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Vertigro
United Kingdom261 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:47 liberate71 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:45 Sejanus wrote: He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out. All groups are tough in Code S. 8 zergs made out of their tough groups. Stephano didn't. So Leenock is over-rated and shit etc etc? stop undermining his air-tight argument | ||
eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:46 EpiK wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:44 ThomasR wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 Lann555 wrote: Wolf might arguably be the best SC2-caster out there. Awesome cast; can't be easy to do a group like that solo ![]() artosis is best imo wolf >> tasteless tho I would really like to see wolf and artosis together. I love the analytical style of both. One issue I can see is one would try to talk over the other because they both have so much to say. Otherwise, wolf's enthusism and insights made the games much more enjoyable tonight. There were few times when Artosis and Wolf were the casting combo - imo the best analytical combo | ||
zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:44 TheKefka wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:44 Glubschauge wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 decado90 wrote: On February 01 2013 21:42 Vindicare605 wrote: On February 01 2013 21:40 derpface wrote: On February 01 2013 21:37 Weryeery wrote: Terran hard race right? lol... just admit Bogus is more skilled than Stephano. They were a good match for each other. I dont want to jump to any conclusions about who's more skilled by just one series. Innovation made the Semis last season and beat a lot of top Zergs to get there. he's definitely quality. But Stephano stuck right there with him and in the same night also outclassed Hack. He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out. No harm in that, better players than him have said the same thing. Code S is tough and Stephano just learned that firsthand. Are you serious dude? Bogus is so much better than Stephano. He actually has a chance to win the GSL for starters. no uuuh,yes? Definitely yes, wouldn't be surprised at all actually. And vindicare, it was 2 series not one. Stephano went 1-4 against Bogus | ||
FineAndDandy
166 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:43 Lann555 wrote: Wolf might arguably be the best SC2-caster out there. Awesome cast; can't be easy to do a group like that solo ![]() artosis is best imo wolf >> tasteless tho My rank, Tasteless>Artosis>Wolf>>Khaldor | ||
Fuego
United Kingdom166 Posts
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Saber_Rider
Sweden361 Posts
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Bjarne
Germany192 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:45 Ryps wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:44 Laryleprakon wrote: On February 01 2013 21:43 Waxangel wrote: On February 01 2013 21:41 Dodgin wrote: On February 01 2013 21:40 Terrix wrote: On February 01 2013 21:39 Laryleprakon wrote: It will be interesting to see if Stephano stays in Korea for code A. Uhhh proleague? I don't think he's going to stay in Korea for the entire proleague season Without him and Taeja though EG-TL is going to get murdered... they need to rebuild taeja faster And not put Rivival out on the last map :D Or just remove Puma auto lose every game. Or remove Zenio, out loose every game too.... | ||
liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:47 AxionSteel wrote: Wolf is better than Artosis imo. He's far less biased, when I listen to Artosis cast a ZvT, it's 80% about zerg, what they need to do to get the win etc. I think I'd have to agree with you. I enjoy the Tastosis's casts.... but in terms of actual "whos better at casting" - I'm firing all cylinders on Wolf. | ||
GunSec
1095 Posts
On February 01 2013 21:46 Nomzter wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote: Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE. Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S. 2012 2013 yeah that is actually huge imo! | ||
Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
So Leenock is over-rated and shit etc etc? Why would you say that? | ||
liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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