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No balance whining, caster bashing, or player bashing in this thread.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 01 2013 12:46 GMT
#3321
On February 01 2013 21:45 duckmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:44 liberate71 wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote:
Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE.
Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S.


Wasn't Naniwa like 0-10 in Code A before the season he got into Round of 8?


So? He improved. No one is born a champion.


Uhh... I think youre missing the point.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
February 01 2013 12:46 GMT
#3322
On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote:
Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE.
Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S.

2012
2013
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:48:39
February 01 2013 12:46 GMT
#3323
On February 01 2013 21:43 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:40 derpface wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:37 Weryeery wrote:
Terran hard race right?


lol... just admit Bogus is more skilled than Stephano.


They were a good match for each other. I dont want to jump to any conclusions about who's more skilled by just one series.

Innovation made the Semis last season and beat a lot of top Zergs to get there. he's definitely quality.

But Stephano stuck right there with him and in the same night also outclassed Hack. He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out. No harm in that, better players than him have said the same thing. Code S is tough and Stephano just learned that firsthand.


Are you serious dude? Bogus is so much better than Stephano. He actually has a chance to win the GSL for starters.


Dead serious.

Stephano is a superior macro player in general IMO but Innovation beat him using superior decision making and early game tactics. A lot of that has to do with a probable lack of preparation on Stephano's part which is normal considering that GSL is much different than any of the marathon foreigner events he's used to playing.

I think given time to adjust more to the way GSL is played as well as some better scouting I think Stephano could take him in a long series. His game number 2 was about as one sided as a TvZ can possibly be which tells me that if Innovation doesn't manage to secure an early advantage somehow that Stephano will crush him with his superior late game.

It's a normal dynamic between players of similar skill level.

Again I'm not trying to buy into the blind Stephano hype that a lot of his fans have I'm just trying to be objective about the series I watched just now. He totally outclassed hack and looked like he had Innovation's number once it hit the later game his Achilles heel was his early game and if he can somehow shore that up with better preparation I think he can beat Innovation in a series. Nothing against Innovation I think he's a terrific Terran but that's just the way I see it.
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Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
February 01 2013 12:46 GMT
#3324
First time i watching SC2 in a long while, shame Stephano didnt win
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 01 2013 12:46 GMT
#3325
BBoongBBoong is the darkhorse GSL champ that will make us all forget about jjakji, seed, and sniper
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 01 2013 12:47 GMT
#3326
On February 01 2013 21:45 Sejanus wrote:
Show nested quote +

He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out.

All groups are tough in Code S. 8 zergs made out of their tough groups. Stephano didn't.


So Leenock is over-rated and shit etc etc?
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
February 01 2013 12:47 GMT
#3327
Well you can't really call it greedy by stephano to not have scouting lings on the map, because he didn't get any economical advantage from that. the point is that he HAD those lings and didn't use them at all. This is just bad play tbh. And with such mistakes he doesn't deserve a spot in the Ro16, as sadly as it is, because in other aspects of the game, he does really well.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 01 2013 12:47 GMT
#3328
On February 01 2013 21:44 SHODAN wrote:
Artosis mentioned something about swarmy mass raxx style builds in Brood War. A few season ago, MVP went for a 5 rax into 7 rax build vs Parting. Bogus did the same thing - attack fast, upgrade steadily, expand slowly and trade well. Stephano GG


Problem is that it is more of a surprise/gimmick build. All 3 races have ways to deal with it fairly easily if scouted. Terrans with bunkers into tanks. Protoss with sentries before getting colossi. Zerg with lots of lings and banes.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:48:08
February 01 2013 12:47 GMT
#3329
Wolf is better than Artosis imo. He's far less biased, when I listen to Artosis cast a ZvT, it's 80% about zerg, what they need to do to get the win etc. And as a solo caster, Wolf does an impeccable job.



Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3330
On February 01 2013 21:47 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:45 Sejanus wrote:

He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out.

All groups are tough in Code S. 8 zergs made out of their tough groups. Stephano didn't.


So Leenock is over-rated and shit etc etc?


stop undermining his air-tight argument
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3331
On February 01 2013 21:46 EpiK wrote:
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On February 01 2013 21:44 ThomasR wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:43 Lann555 wrote:
Wolf might arguably be the best SC2-caster out there. Awesome cast; can't be easy to do a group like that solo

artosis is best imo

wolf >> tasteless tho

I would really like to see wolf and artosis together. I love the analytical style of both. One issue I can see is one would try to talk over the other because they both have so much to say. Otherwise, wolf's enthusism and insights made the games much more enjoyable tonight.


There were few times when Artosis and Wolf were the casting combo - imo the best analytical combo
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3332
On February 01 2013 21:44 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:44 Glubschauge wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:43 decado90 wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:40 derpface wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:37 Weryeery wrote:
Terran hard race right?


lol... just admit Bogus is more skilled than Stephano.


They were a good match for each other. I dont want to jump to any conclusions about who's more skilled by just one series.

Innovation made the Semis last season and beat a lot of top Zergs to get there. he's definitely quality.

But Stephano stuck right there with him and in the same night also outclassed Hack. He's a top Zerg even if his haters don't want to admit it. He got put in a tough group and barely didnt make it out. No harm in that, better players than him have said the same thing. Code S is tough and Stephano just learned that firsthand.


Are you serious dude? Bogus is so much better than Stephano. He actually has a chance to win the GSL for starters.


no

uuuh,yes?


Definitely yes, wouldn't be surprised at all actually. And vindicare, it was 2 series not one. Stephano went 1-4 against Bogus
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FineAndDandy
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:49:01
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3333
On February 01 2013 21:43 Lann555 wrote:
Wolf might arguably be the best SC2-caster out there. Awesome cast; can't be easy to do a group like that solo



artosis is best imo

wolf >> tasteless tho

My rank,

Tasteless>Artosis>Wolf>>Khaldor
Fuego
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom166 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3334
Knowing when to all-in is a skill in itself. We have to assume that Bogus was aware Stephano hadn't scouted him properly so he executed a randomly timed all-in which he knew wouldn't be expected. All part of the game, and Bogus appeared to know the right moment.
Saber_Rider
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden361 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3335
All this wine about all-inning...a great player does that from time to time! It's such a shame that a lot of people seems to think all in=bad player...at least all in games aren't as boring as turtle ones
FFE or die trying
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3336
On February 01 2013 21:45 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:44 Laryleprakon wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:43 Waxangel wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:41 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:40 Terrix wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:39 Laryleprakon wrote:
It will be interesting to see if Stephano stays in Korea for code A.


Uhhh proleague?


I don't think he's going to stay in Korea for the entire proleague season

Without him and Taeja though EG-TL is going to get murdered...


they need to rebuild taeja faster


And not put Rivival out on the last map :D

Or just remove Puma auto lose every game.



Or remove Zenio, out loose every game too....
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3337
On February 01 2013 21:47 AxionSteel wrote:
Wolf is better than Artosis imo. He's far less biased, when I listen to Artosis cast a ZvT, it's 80% about zerg, what they need to do to get the win etc.




I think I'd have to agree with you.

I enjoy the Tastosis's casts.... but in terms of actual "whos better at casting" - I'm firing all cylinders on Wolf.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3338
On February 01 2013 21:46 Nomzter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:42 Raiquer wrote:
Naniwa made it to the Round of 8 in GSL Code S TWICE.
Stephano lost in the Round of 32 GSL Code S.

2012
2013


yeah that is actually huge imo!
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3339

So Leenock is over-rated and shit etc etc?

Why would you say that?
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:49:03
February 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#3340
edit rofl ok broken quote
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
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