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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
January 09 2013 12:31 GMT
#1781
On January 09 2013 21:29 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:28 Wintex wrote:
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs sHy(sOs)?

Yes! (76)
 
92%

If you have time! (4)
 
5%

Nope. (3)
 
4%

83 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs sHy(sOs)?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time!
(Vote): Nope.



FUCK YES BOMBER I LOVE YUOU


Such a good and solid game, back and fourth and so exciting.
Only thing you could have asked for more is that sOs wouldn't have botched those ff in the start.

Really ? That's the thing you are wishing for ?

Well I wished sOs didn't try to end the game like a over-eager foreigner and calmly expands and techs to storm while setting up a concave and denying Bomber's mining (very easy to do with DT)
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:32:47
January 09 2013 12:31 GMT
#1782
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?

it was his best mu until summer 2012
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
January 09 2013 12:31 GMT
#1783
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?

not really youre talking about late 2011 and mid 2012 to say hero is a pvz specialist. Acutally he did beat violet
4-2 in NASL season 4 with a great comeback
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:32:51
January 09 2013 12:32 GMT
#1784
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 09 2013 12:32 GMT
#1785
On January 09 2013 21:31 Caihead wrote:
I like how the free stream NEVER lags during adverts despite higher graphical fidelity / quality and always manages to lag during decisive moments in the game. I don't think this is just me since I just ran speed tests too :<

stream gets too excited

i remember watching...well i can't remember what it was, but during the exciting bits when the casters voices would get raised the stream would start to die, it never made any sense but that behaviour was consistent over a long time
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
January 09 2013 12:33 GMT
#1786
Bomber killed all Protosses in this group
it's so sick man
@taefoxy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 09 2013 12:33 GMT
#1787
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.


Yeah, nobody left with good, solid macro PvZ. Parting does show flashes of brilliance but mostly just immortal all ins. Can't say I blame him
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 09 2013 12:33 GMT
#1788
On January 09 2013 21:31 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:29 Tobblish wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:28 Wintex wrote:
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs sHy(sOs)?

Yes! (76)
 
92%

If you have time! (4)
 
5%

Nope. (3)
 
4%

83 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs sHy(sOs)?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time!
(Vote): Nope.



FUCK YES BOMBER I LOVE YUOU


Such a good and solid game, back and fourth and so exciting.
Only thing you could have asked for more is that sOs wouldn't have botched those ff in the start.

Really ? That's the thing you are wishing for ?

Well I wished sOs didn't try to end the game like a over-eager foreigner and calmly expands and techs to storm while setting up a concave and denying Bomber's mining (very easy to do with DT)


Hate that style as a viewer, much more exiting to watch a game thats 100% action.
As far as FTL Captain goes, I think sOs learned a lot from this match.
The curse is real
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1789
--- Nuked ---
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1790
On January 09 2013 21:31 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:29 Tobblish wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:28 Wintex wrote:
Poll: Recommend Bomber vs sHy(sOs)?

Yes! (76)
 
92%

If you have time! (4)
 
5%

Nope. (3)
 
4%

83 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs sHy(sOs)?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): If you have time!
(Vote): Nope.



FUCK YES BOMBER I LOVE YUOU


Such a good and solid game, back and fourth and so exciting.
Only thing you could have asked for more is that sOs wouldn't have botched those ff in the start.

Really ? That's the thing you are wishing for ?

Well I wished sOs didn't try to end the game like a over-eager foreigner and calmly expands and techs to storm while setting up a concave and denying Bomber's mining (very easy to do with DT)

That's what HerO did against ByuN and Bomber, and we saw how it ended.
Pheint
Profile Joined March 2011
United States73 Posts
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1791
This Bomber ByuL game should hopefully be top notch.
GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1792
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.



doing the same perfect all-in all the time doesnt mean you are a good PvZ player.
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:35:58
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1793
Lol at 10 pages arguments who is better player, Stephano or Hero given the fact that Stephano is not even playing today. Let's talk about Violet and Rain for a second just for the sake of having pointless argument?

On topic - Amazing play by Bomber, however sos made a mistake at the end walking up the ramp
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#1794
On January 09 2013 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.


Yeah, nobody left with good, solid macro PvZ. Parting does show flashes of brilliance but mostly just immortal all ins. Can't say I blame him


Creator has some good 3 base timing builds.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#1795
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.

Don't forget Squirtle's amazing games against Stephano and Nerchio at IPL5 GSL WC.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
January 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#1796
Note to myself : stop overrating, for the third time, KesPA players in Up&Down liquidbets.
T;T.
At least I got Bomber right, owning everyone but ByuN.
WriterMaru
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#1797
On January 09 2013 21:34 GaliX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.



doing the same perfect all-in all the time doesnt mean you are a good PvZ player.


If you have a 90% winrate with it it douse.
The curse is real
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#1798
On January 09 2013 21:34 eGoRama wrote:
Lol at 10 pages arguments who is better player, Stephano or Hero given the fact that Stephano is not even playing today. Let's talk about Violet and Rain for a second just for the sake of having pointless argument?

Violet is so much smoother he should rename himself Velvet.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 12:38:06
January 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#1799
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.


well even Oz does well
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#1800
On January 09 2013 21:33 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:32 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Zinnwaldite wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:30 Xpace wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:29 samurai80 wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:23 NexCa wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:15 Toxi78 wrote:
Saying hero is "clearly the better player" out of him and stephano is quite stupid considering that first it's very hard to compare 2 players overall when they play different races and second, stephano has a positive record vs HerO of about 13-8.
Not saying it proves the contrary either, but these 2 are quite evenly matched in terms of skills imo, but out of them Stephano seems to have a much better mentality which makes him a more consistent player over time (that's just my opinion though).


Stephano is 10 - 6 against HerO

source : http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=222&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=1&from_day=14&to_year=2013&to_month=11&to_day=24&action=Update#tblt-4443-1-default-0-Stephano

Well Stephano's best m-u is ZvP while HerO's best m-u is not really PvZ (at least he's not specialized in it as Stephano is for ZvP). Anyway we'll see how Stephano does in GSL, afaic, I think Stephano and HerO's level are close


HerO was known for his PvZ until recent, no?


His PvZ has not been very good for quite some time..

Lol, as any protoss PvZ actually...
Edit: *except PartinG of course.


Yeah, nobody left with good, solid macro PvZ. Parting does show flashes of brilliance but mostly just immortal all ins. Can't say I blame him

Maybe because no macro play can be solid against any top tier zerg in PvZ...
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