EPTOn December 23 2012 20:03 Bibbit wrote:
Same as every other proleague coach, you'll have to get used to it
Same as every other proleague coach, you'll have to get used to it
Not like i really like proleague's format, i will give you that.
[SPL] EG-TL vs Woongjin Stars R1 - Page 110
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Godwrath
Spain10162 Posts
Not like i really like proleague's format, i will give you that. | ||
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Dotq
Norway235 Posts
Of all time. JYP is like a rookie compared to taeja hero.....such a bad misstake. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
I mean it's a nice twist in case WS had some snipe build for JD, Hero, and Taeja but given that JYP lost a horrible game right before which he threw it was the worst decision they could make. | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On December 23 2012 15:15 StarStruck wrote: Who would you have sent out in PuMa's stead or what b.o. would you ask of him? sHy is very good and it was a hard draw regardless like the rest. It had ace match written all over it. I'm pretty sure if you're in PuMa's situation, you HAVE to focus the Stalker first. Probes come last in priority. | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On December 23 2012 21:42 GreyKnight wrote: JYP as an ace sort of made sense? I mean it's a nice twist in case WS had some snipe build for JD, Hero, and Taeja but given that JYP lost a horrible game right before which he threw it was the worst decision they could make. No. It's Antiga shipyard, a well known, well played SC2 map. It's Protoss. How many Protoss SC2 build orders do we have? I don't know how it compares to Brood War, but I don't see how playing JYP would give you any advantage over HerO. Who's our (EG-TL) coach, again? It's not Hwanni, it's a former KeSPA team coach or something. Does he have a lot of SC2 experience, or just from the hybrid PL? | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On December 23 2012 20:53 THM wrote: JYP as ace = fail no matter how you put it. Oh well, so much for "EG-TL are the favorites for proleague" predictions in the TL articles before proleague started. First match we lost 0-4, but you can "blame" the fact that Taeja and HerO weren't there and Thorzain and JYP didn't play well up to their usual standard. For this match, I'm pretty sure HerO would have been the heavy favorite against sHy. If you're going to play a Protoss, then you should just play HerO, not JYP. Perhaps this was a case of "over-coaching"? | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 23 2012 21:42 GreyKnight wrote: JYP as an ace sort of made sense? I mean it's a nice twist in case WS had some snipe build for JD, Hero, and Taeja but given that JYP lost a horrible game right before which he threw it was the worst decision they could make. If you read player interviews, the Ace pick is usually picked internally before the day's match starts so they can prepare for the map. So the player's performance on that day in their 1st match doesn't really play a factor whether they are sent out or not. Not saying JYP was the best pick, just that too many people think the Ace is decided by the coach when they get to 3-3, which is not usually the case. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 23 2012 21:59 Jacmert wrote: First match we lost 0-4, but you can "blame" the fact that Taeja and HerO weren't there and Thorzain and JYP didn't play well up to their usual standard. For this match, I'm pretty sure HerO would have been the heavy favorite against sHy. If you're going to play a Protoss, then you should just play HerO, not JYP. Perhaps this was a case of "over-coaching"? The Ace picks are blind so the teams don't know who/which race they will be playing. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 23 2012 21:54 Jacmert wrote: I'm pretty sure if you're in PuMa's situation, you HAVE to focus the Stalker first. Probes come last in priority. You can't chase down kill a stalker with 4 unstimmed marines unless the P doesn't micro at all. | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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-IeZaeL-
Spain327 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On December 23 2012 21:41 Dotq wrote: Of all time. JYP is like a rookie compared to taeja hero.....such a bad misstake. JYP is fairly ok of a player, he reached code S ro16 getting 3rd in his group before going all the way to code B, his vP and vZ are actually fairly decent and at least code A level, its his vT that fucks him up (actually tbh hes vT has gotten leagues better nowadays but still pretty bad) | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On December 23 2012 22:02 vthree wrote: If you read player interviews, the Ace pick is usually picked internally before the day's match starts so they can prepare for the map. So the player's performance on that day in their 1st match doesn't really play a factor whether they are sent out or not. Not saying JYP was the best pick, just that too many people think the Ace is decided by the coach when they get to 3-3, which is not usually the case. Yes you're right, I'm stupid -_- | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Boundz(DarKo)
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
On December 23 2012 22:14 hifriend wrote: Yeah jyp ace is just plain stupid.. Definitely one of their worst players. I wouldn't say one of their worst, he is certainly a very good player, I just thinks it's weird to send him as the ace. In this case it was a PvP in what he is decent, note particulary impressive but good. Of couurse they hoped for a Zerg because he has good PvZ. The strangest thing for me as ace is his really weak PvT, I mean if the others send out a Terran it's basically over. HerO might be a more mentally volatile player but he is good at all three match-ups which makes him at the current time the best ace for EG-TL. JYP is better used as Sniper with good prepared builds I think. But then again I have no clue about such things so I give them the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 23 2012 23:00 CrazyBirdman wrote: I wouldn't say one of their worst, he is certainly a very good player, I just thinks it's weird to send him as the ace. In this case it was a PvP in what he is decent, note particulary impressive but good. Of couurse they hoped for a Zerg because he has good PvZ. The strangest thing for me as ace is his really weak PvT, I mean if the others send out a Terran it's basically over. HerO might be a more mentally volatile player but he is good at all three match-ups which makes him at the current time the best ace for EG-TL. JYP is better used as Sniper with good prepared builds I think. But then again I have no clue about such things so I give them the benefit of the doubt. First of all, JYP's v T has gotten much better. But more importantly, they were playing woongjin. Have you looked at their Terran line up? I don't think they would send out hon_sin as their ace... | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10162 Posts
On December 23 2012 23:10 vthree wrote: First of all, JYP's v T has gotten much better. But more importantly, they were playing woongjin. Have you looked at their Terran line up? I don't think they would send out hon_sin as their ace... Not really. He is kinda all in or nothing. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 23 2012 23:21 Godwrath wrote: Not really. He is kinda all in or nothing. It is still better than losing every match.... | ||
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