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On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year
how exactly do you figure that? They were very similar early on. Then DRG just rocketed past him around MLG Anaheim.
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Anyway, it's pretty much between Leenock and DRG for player of the year imo. Rain, PartinG, and Life have done good too, but DRG and Leenock have done just as well pretty much with a better spread of their achievements which is a mark of more consistency. Going for DRG if Leenock fails to make it far this tournament.
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On December 17 2012 21:59 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/ Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year " Then we can say the same arugment for DRG. What has he accomplished for the second half of the year?
2nd in OSL
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On December 17 2012 21:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:58 DrPandaPhD wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/ Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year " If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year. 1 GSL a piece 1 MLG a piece DRG has a MLG arena Leenock has IPL5 which was probably the hardest non code S tournament this year both have a 2nd place MLG finish DRG has OSL 2nd place it'd be close im probably missing some other things if anyone wants to add on
DRG has 2 second place MLGs
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On December 17 2012 21:58 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/ Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year " If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year.
I don't agree, I think DRG would have still achieved more, barely.
If leenock wanted player of the year he shouldn't have thrown away his best chance at a real GSL 
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On December 17 2012 22:00 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 21:58 DrPandaPhD wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/ Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year " If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year. 1 GSL a piece 1 MLG a piece DRG has a MLG arena Leenock has IPL5 which was probably the hardest non code S tournament this year both have a 2nd place MLG finish DRG has OSL 2nd place it'd be close im probably missing some other things if anyone wants to add on DRG has 2 second place MLGs
I meant 2nd at the season championships but yes he has a 2nd place arena as well
I forgot Leenock also won the WEM championship as well
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On December 17 2012 21:58 TommyP wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous Makes sense! I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong.
Nope it hasn't. I don't think MarineKing is the best player of the year, but DRG is far from it too. He's been really bad the last few months and does not deserve that title at all
It should be MVP as he was the only consistent player throughout the year
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On December 17 2012 22:01 noddy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:58 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous Makes sense! I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong. Nope it hasn't. I don't think MarineKing is the best player of the year, but DRG is far from it too. He's been really bad the last few months and does not deserve that title at all
Ok.... Which player has been great the whole year? Let me tell you, every player has had their good times an bad times
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On December 17 2012 21:54 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:52 sitromit wrote:On December 17 2012 21:49 Hiea wrote:On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.
Maybe time for him to put his career to a end. Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year. If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG. DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP. I think it's extremely hard to call any player the best of 2012, theres been so many periods, at the start of the year it was all DRG / MKP, then it was TaeJa, Rain, Life, Leenock, and throughout Mvp also won and placed high, so yeah... not to mention Stephano has been consistent throughout the year aswelll. Stephano? He didn't win a single tournament with the level of competition as these other guys. Both NASL3 and LSC2 had pretty tough competition. But yeah, not at the same level.
He Won NASL3, LSC2, placed 3rd at Spring arena 2, 5-6th at the championship/ipl 4, and has been consistent overall, his not at the top but his price money stills says he did pretty damn well.
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On December 17 2012 22:01 noddy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:58 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous Makes sense! I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong. Nope it hasn't. I don't think MarineKing is the best player of the year, but DRG is far from it too. He's been really bad the last few months and does not deserve that title at all It should be MVP as he was the only consistent player throughout the year
rofl. Look at the achievements, DRG is definitely not 'far from it'. You can make arguments for other players but DRG has to be on the short list. This year just isn't as clear cut as 2011 when Mvp ran away with it.
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On December 17 2012 21:59 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year This year, when DRG won a GSL, while Marineking is still a kong?
when he won the GSL, mkp smacked him around pretty hard. this is not in terms of achievments, where DRG has the lead, but in player skill mkp has peaked in that higher than DRG this year
On December 17 2012 21:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year how exactly do you figure that? They were very similar early on. Then DRG just rocketed past him around MLG Anaheim.
mkp thrashed drg around during the MLGs and did pretty damn well elsewhere too (better than DRG did)
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We should just give it to Parting. He's a double world champion (3x if you count him as the current holder of the unofficial world championship) and won the most prize money this year. won the biggest prize money tourney in sc2. defeated combatex 2-1
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The games are over looks like its time for pointless circular debates about which player we like the most being better than everyone else. 
I'm going to say Leenock because he's been the best Zerg across all patches, with the most playstyles, and he has a huge variety of tournament wins: 2 MLG, IPL5, that tournament in China that had mass amounts of top tier Code S players, another 2nd place at MLG (losing only to life who he now has a + score against, along with just about everyone else), and if he wins this one he will have the GSL too. Of course this is all pretty arbitrary since there has been no clear best player this year.
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On December 17 2012 22:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
We should just give it to Parting. He's a double world champion (3x if you count him as the current holder of the unofficial world championship) and won the most prize money this year. won the biggest prize money tourney in sc2. defeated combatex 2-1
Aye, just disregard my post above... I forgot Parting pulled out a win against the mighty Combatex... Parting gets my vote for sure now. 
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On December 17 2012 22:03 Hiea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:54 DJHelium wrote:On December 17 2012 21:52 sitromit wrote:On December 17 2012 21:49 Hiea wrote:On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.
Maybe time for him to put his career to a end. Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year. If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG. DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP. I think it's extremely hard to call any player the best of 2012, theres been so many periods, at the start of the year it was all DRG / MKP, then it was TaeJa, Rain, Life, Leenock, and throughout Mvp also won and placed high, so yeah... not to mention Stephano has been consistent throughout the year aswelll. Stephano? He didn't win a single tournament with the level of competition as these other guys. Both NASL3 and LSC2 had pretty tough competition. But yeah, not at the same level. He Won NASL3, LSC2, placed 3rd at Spring arena 2, 5-6th at the championship/ipl 4, and has been consistent overall, his not at the top but his price money stills says he did pretty damn well.
Stephano had a great year. But it is pretty hard to make a claim to be the best player when you don't play GSL. He would probably need to win 3-4 MLG/DH/IPL plus other smaller tournaments.
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On December 17 2012 22:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:00 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 21:58 DrPandaPhD wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/ Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year " If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year. 1 GSL a piece 1 MLG a piece DRG has a MLG arena Leenock has IPL5 which was probably the hardest non code S tournament this year both have a 2nd place MLG finish DRG has OSL 2nd place it'd be close im probably missing some other things if anyone wants to add on DRG has 2 second place MLGs I meant 2nd at the season championships but yes he has a 2nd place arena as well I forgot Leenock also won the WEM championship as well
Leenock also help lead his team to back to back GSTL championships. That's got to count for a fair bit.
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On December 17 2012 22:04 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:59 [F_]aths wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year This year, when DRG won a GSL, while Marineking is still a kong? when he won the GSL, mkp smacked him around pretty hard. this is not in terms of achievments, where DRG has the lead, but in player skill mkp has peaked in that higher than DRG this year Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year how exactly do you figure that? They were very similar early on. Then DRG just rocketed past him around MLG Anaheim. mkp thrashed drg around during the MLGs and did pretty damn well elsewhere too (better than DRG did)
'player skill' varies in each game.
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On December 17 2012 22:06 Chill Penguin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:00 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 21:58 DrPandaPhD wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/ Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year " If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year. 1 GSL a piece 1 MLG a piece DRG has a MLG arena Leenock has IPL5 which was probably the hardest non code S tournament this year both have a 2nd place MLG finish DRG has OSL 2nd place it'd be close im probably missing some other things if anyone wants to add on DRG has 2 second place MLGs I meant 2nd at the season championships but yes he has a 2nd place arena as well I forgot Leenock also won the WEM championship as well Leenock also help lead his team to back to back GSTL championships. That's got to count for a fair bit.
i know they look similar, but gumi did most of the hard work ;D
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On December 17 2012 22:01 noddy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:58 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous Makes sense! I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong. Nope it hasn't. I don't think MarineKing is the best player of the year, but DRG is far from it too. He's been really bad the last few months and does not deserve that title at all It should be MVP as he was the only consistent player throughout the year
MVP?? he had one good run through GSL season 2 with a lot of luck and that's all for 2012. Don't know how he can be mentioned in this discussion...
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What's the thing with CombatEx? 
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