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Dr.Hydralisk
Profile Joined December 2012
United States50 Posts
December 17 2012 12:53 GMT
#2581

How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 17 2012 12:53 GMT
#2582
Lets not argue DRG vs MKP this year because no one sane would honestly argue MKP > DRG.

People be crazy.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 12:53 GMT
#2583
On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/

Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo
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Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 12:53 GMT
#2584
On December 17 2012 21:53 Hall0wed wrote:
Lets not argue DRG vs MKP this year because no one sane would honestly argue MKP > DRG.

People be crazy.

head to head! lol
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Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#2585
On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:

How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better.

actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#2586
On December 17 2012 21:52 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:49 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.

Maybe time for him to put his career to a end.


Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year.


If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG.

DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP.

I think it's extremely hard to call any player the best of 2012, theres been so many periods, at the start of the year it was all DRG / MKP, then it was TaeJa, Rain, Life, Leenock, and throughout Mvp also won and placed high, so yeah... not to mention Stephano has been consistent throughout the year aswelll.


Stephano? He didn't win a single tournament with the level of competition as these other guys.


Both NASL3 and LSC2 had pretty tough competition. But yeah, not at the same level.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#2587
On December 17 2012 21:51 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:49 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.

Maybe time for him to put his career to a end.


Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year.


If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG.

DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP.

I think it's extremely hard to call any player the best of 2012, theres been so many periods, at the start of the year it was all DRG / MKP, then it was TaeJa, Rain, Life, Leenock, and throughout Mvp also won and placed high, so yeah... not to mention Stephano has been consistent throughout the year aswelll.


You are right, it is hard. But still think Mvp and DongRaeGu both have been among the best over longest periods of time this year, which imo is the deciding factor.

One would really love to fit for example Life there as well, just because he had such recent success.


Well, if you bring Life in. Will need to include Rain, PartinG as well. And Leenock if he gets to finals of this tournament.
Dr.Hydralisk
Profile Joined December 2012
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 12:54:18
December 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#2588
On December 17 2012 21:51 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:50 sitromit wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:48 opterown wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:47 TommyP wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:45 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.

Maybe time for him to put his career to a end.


Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year.


If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG.

DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP.


He has also been awful for the last few months.. but I guess that doesn't matter

Awful as in making OSL finals and still being in Code S throughout his "slump"

On December 17 2012 21:46 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:45 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.

Maybe time for him to put his career to a end.


Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year.


If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG.

DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP.


He has also been awful for the last few months.. but I guess that doesn't matter


He got second place in OSL less than 2 months ago. MKP does have one more arena win but the OSL and especially the GSL more than weighs up for that.

beat pretty bad players to get there tbh


He beat MKP to get there, LOL.


Like he said, he beat bad players to get there


Better than code S players is enough.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 12:55:51
December 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#2589
On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/

Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo


if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year "
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 17 2012 12:55 GMT
#2590
On December 17 2012 21:54 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:51 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:49 Hiea wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 Lazzi wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:44 noddy wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:40 DJHelium wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 derpface wrote:
Mvp not even worth mentioning anymore.

Maybe time for him to put his career to a end.


Not sure if you're trolling? He (together with DongRaeGu and maybe Leenock) are the top players of this year.


If DRG is a contender for top player of the year, why isn't MKP? He's done better than DRG.

DRG has won a GSL and done a final of OSL more than MKP.

I think it's extremely hard to call any player the best of 2012, theres been so many periods, at the start of the year it was all DRG / MKP, then it was TaeJa, Rain, Life, Leenock, and throughout Mvp also won and placed high, so yeah... not to mention Stephano has been consistent throughout the year aswelll.


You are right, it is hard. But still think Mvp and DongRaeGu both have been among the best over longest periods of time this year, which imo is the deciding factor.

One would really love to fit for example Life there as well, just because he had such recent success.


Well, if you bring Life in. Will need to include Rain, PartinG as well. And Leenock if he gets to finals of this tournament.


And Taeja, Hero etc etc. That's the for example But I don't think they are strong contenders.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 17 2012 12:56 GMT
#2591
Holy crap I went to bed when this started and I've been awake for 2 hours and it just finished :/

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noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
December 17 2012 12:57 GMT
#2592
On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:

How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better.


Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous

Makes sense!
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
December 17 2012 12:57 GMT
#2593
Hero has to be pretty sad now, losing every series 1-2
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 17 2012 12:58 GMT
#2594
On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/

Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo


if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year "

If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year.
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Dr.Hydralisk
Profile Joined December 2012
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 12:58:22
December 17 2012 12:58 GMT
#2595
On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:

How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better.


Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous

Makes sense!


MKP is always a total pushover, even in the days when he got silver. He can't take a punch from anyone.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 17 2012 12:58 GMT
#2596
On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:

How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better.


Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous

Makes sense!

I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
December 17 2012 12:59 GMT
#2597
On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:

How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better.

actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year

This year, when DRG won a GSL, while Marineking is still a kong?
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 17 2012 12:59 GMT
#2598
On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/

Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo


if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year "


To be fair, which player has been consistently on top in 2012? The top end is just so stacked right now. You could make arguements for Mvp, Leenock, Taeja, MKP, Rain, PartinG, Life as being the top player in the world at one point during this year.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 12:59:58
December 17 2012 12:59 GMT
#2599
On December 17 2012 21:58 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/

Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo


if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year "

If Leenock wins this he would have achieved more this year than DRG, even if it was only during the last half of the year.

1 GSL a piece
1 MLG a piece
DRG has a MLG arena
Leenock has IPL5 which was probably the hardest non code S tournament this year
both have a 2nd place MLG finish
DRG has OSL 2nd place
it'd be close
im probably missing some other things if anyone wants to add on
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Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
December 17 2012 12:59 GMT
#2600
On December 17 2012 21:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:53 opterown wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
with Mvp going 0-4 and DRG making it through, DRG is basically a lock for the player of the year award that TL will probably do like last year. It was really just between those two guys. Maybe in DRG doesn't make it through the up/downs somehow it would still be hard to call since Mvp did beat two solid protoss players to make it back into Code S. Today was just not his day for some reason =/

Leenock can take it with a blizzcup win imo


if it was player of second half of the year I would agree but meh, leenock was in a deep slump up until mlg summer champs. It's hard to call him " player of the year "

Then we can say the same arugment for DRG. What has he accomplished for the second half of the year?
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