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I'm feeling better missing the one...
I wasn't exactly in the modd of seeing Mvp go 1-8...
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On December 17 2012 22:12 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:07 TeeTS wrote:On December 17 2012 22:01 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:58 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous Makes sense! I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong. Nope it hasn't. I don't think MarineKing is the best player of the year, but DRG is far from it too. He's been really bad the last few months and does not deserve that title at all It should be MVP as he was the only consistent player throughout the year MVP?? he had one good run through GSL season 2 with a lot of luck and that's all for 2012. Don't know how he can be mentioned in this discussion... not sure if serious mvp is: only terran to win a gsl in 2012 only terran to make a gsl finals in 2012 only player to make 2 separate gsl finals in 2012 #1 GSL points for the second year in a row won iem defeating the foreigner patchzerg menace ( his greatest achievement ) but seriously It's DRG only terran blabla means nothing if you look for the most successful player over a year. It's hard to tell, but it has to be something between DRG, Leenock, Parting and Rain. I would give DRG the edge. Terran did not have very much success after the queen patch. That's just a fact.
how in the world is Rain possibly a candidate for player of the year, he didn't start playing official matches until may of this year. Parting I can see since he had good GSL runs early in the year, some decent placements in foreign tournaments and then a chain of lots of success in the 3 WCS tournaments he went to, then WCG and 3 separate all-kills in teamleagues too. It's just hard to give it to Parting because he didn't win a GSL, I don't feel comfortable giving the player of the year title to anyone who didn't win a GSL.
Tasteless already killed the prestige of GSL by saying WCS is the most important tournament, let's not kill it further 
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Oh herpdederp sorry yeah 3 players go through! And oh it goes on map score, fair enough.
Thanks :D
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i am glad hero is out.
sad for Mvp but there is not much he can do. I hope all terrans switch to zerg in hots
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Austria24417 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:12 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:08 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:07 TeeTS wrote:On December 17 2012 22:01 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:58 TommyP wrote:On December 17 2012 21:57 noddy wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. Lol MKP who made 2 ro8's recently is a complete pushover compared to someone who aside from today, has been awful even though his race was ridiculous Makes sense! I don't see why you are arguing still. Everything you've said has been completely wrong. Nope it hasn't. I don't think MarineKing is the best player of the year, but DRG is far from it too. He's been really bad the last few months and does not deserve that title at all It should be MVP as he was the only consistent player throughout the year MVP?? he had one good run through GSL season 2 with a lot of luck and that's all for 2012. Don't know how he can be mentioned in this discussion... not sure if serious mvp is: only terran to win a gsl in 2012 only terran to make a gsl finals in 2012 only player to make 2 separate gsl finals in 2012 #1 GSL points for the second year in a row won iem defeating the foreigner patchzerg menace ( his greatest achievement ) but seriously It's DRG only terran blabla means nothing if you look for the most successful player over a year. It's hard to tell, but it has to be something between DRG, Leenock, Parting. I would give DRG the edge. Terran did not have very much success after the queen patch. That's just a fact.
Rain didn't even exist in sc2 for the first half of 2012.
In terms of consistently being one of the best in the world, you really can't look past Mvp. He won season 2 this year and made it to the finals yet again at the end of the year. How much more consistent does he have to be to gain your approval?
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United States97276 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012
this is probably the best answer imo
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On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012
Agree with this. The argument is only up for debate if Leenock wins.
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On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo
Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia.
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On December 17 2012 22:04 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:59 [F_]aths wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year This year, when DRG won a GSL, while Marineking is still a kong? when he won the GSL, mkp smacked him around pretty hard. this is not in terms of achievments, where DRG has the lead, but in player skill mkp has peaked in that higher than DRG this year Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 21:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year how exactly do you figure that? They were very similar early on. Then DRG just rocketed past him around MLG Anaheim. mkp thrashed drg around during the MLGs and did pretty damn well elsewhere too (better than DRG did)
Must have missed something:
FXO Invitational: DRG 4-0 MKP (DRG won this tournament)
GSL Season 1 ro16: DRG 2-0 MKP (DRG won this tournament)
Arena Of Legends King of Kongs: DRG 3-1 MKP (DRG won this tournament)
MLG winter Arena: DRG 2-4 MKP (MKP won this tournament)
MLG winter championship: MKP 5-2 DRG (MKP won this tournament)
MLG Spring Arena: DRG 4-3 MKP (DRG won this tournament)
MLG Spring Championship: DRG 2-0 MKP (DRG won this tournament)
DRG overall looks like he owned MKP this year. In skill and achievements. On a side note, looking at their results has really made me recognize just how hot these two were earlier in the year o_O
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United States97276 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia.
He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM
I would say they have more authority on the matter than Liquipedia
On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season.
I don't exactly agree with it either especially since it's an invitational. If you argue that it doesnt count as a GSL then DRG wins easy
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Leenock didn't get a GSL victory. Leenock also had 2 MLG wins vs DRGs 1.
To be honest, they're very even. I agree with the sentiment that whoever wins will be seen as the best player of 2012.
But Sniper will totally win this so we have no freaking idea haha.
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On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM
we should probably fix liquipedia then
even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season.
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On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia.
He is by GOM and since it is GOM's tournament, I would defer to them. Because then you can start to argue about Mvp's WC and Polt's ST wins.
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On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM I would say they have more authority on the matter than Liquipedia Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season. I don't exactly agree with it either especially since it's an invitational. If you argue that it doesnt count as a GSL then DRG wins easy
I would say that winning Code S is far harder than winning the Blizzard Cup, In this blizzard cup there is the same players as in Code S, just in Code S there is 22 more players, and only 2 of the people in Blizzard cup made the Ro8 in the last Code S season, and 4 made Code S season 4 Ro8.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:04 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:59 [F_]aths wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year This year, when DRG won a GSL, while Marineking is still a kong? when he won the GSL, mkp smacked him around pretty hard. this is not in terms of achievments, where DRG has the lead, but in player skill mkp has peaked in that higher than DRG this year On December 17 2012 21:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 17 2012 21:54 opterown wrote:On December 17 2012 21:53 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
How can someone compare results of MKP to DRG? MKP is a total pushover now. And even just compare their peak, DRG is far better. actually i consider mkp's peak much higher than drg's this year how exactly do you figure that? They were very similar early on. Then DRG just rocketed past him around MLG Anaheim. mkp thrashed drg around during the MLGs and did pretty damn well elsewhere too (better than DRG did) Must have missed something: FXO Invitational: DRG 4-0 MKP (DRG won this tournament) GSL Season 1 ro16: DRG 2-0 MKP (DRG won this tournament) Arena Of Legends King of Kongs: DRG 3-1 MKP (DRG won this tournament) MLG winter Arena: DRG 2-4 MKP (MKP won this tournament) MLG winter championship: MKP 5-2 DRG (MKP won this tournament) MLG Spring Arena: DRG 4-3 MKP (DRG won this tournament) MLG Spring Championship: DRG 2-0 MKP (DRG won this tournament) DRG overall looks like he owned MKP this year. In skill and achievements
actually,
fxopen was 3-0
mlg spring arena was 5-5
i was discussing peak skill. when both players were at their best, mkp beat drg hard
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On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season.
A lot of GSLs are all over the place though. To be fair I think the 3 month GSL is far more prestigious than the 2011 one month GSLs since theres so much more preperation and you can't just be having "a good week". And then the Super Tournament and World championships are also counted as championships right? I mean MVP was going for #5 with 3 Code S plus that.
It's just got to be counted for consistency. And it's not like this tournament is lacking for skill.
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On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season.
What about GSL5 that was shortened and had semi/finals at IPL5. How about the one at Blizzcon? Seasons will be longer next year as well. We can't just start putting asterisks beside every tournament.
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On December 17 2012 22:22 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season. What about GSL5 that was shortened and had semi/finals at IPL5. How about the one at Blizzcon? Seasons will be longer next year as well. We can't just start putting asterisks beside every tournament.
Or the first GSL World Championships. Does Mvp not deserve to be called a 4 time GSL champion?
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On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season.
GOM may 'recognize' it as a GSL win, but I feel that they just say that to give weight to the tournament.
I think it's pretty clear to most that a Blizzard cup win doesn't hold a candle to a proper GSL.
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Austria24417 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 22:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:18 Dodgin wrote:On December 17 2012 22:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:On December 17 2012 22:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:
If Leenock wins this, compared to DRG:
Both got a MLG victory
Both got a GSL victory
Both got a MLG 2nd place
Leenock got an WEM victory and DRG got an MLG arena victory (both were basically the same difficult, prizepool etc)
Leenock got an IPL victory whereas DRG got a MLG arena 2nd place, OSL 2nd place
Leenock won Ritmix and DRG won FXOIS5
So they are basically on the same page, however Leenocks team got 2 GSTL victories mainly thanks to him and gumiho + as a star in the corner he dethroned HyuN
So I'd say Leenock achieved more than DRG 2012 IF he wins this. However if DRG wins this he is without a doubt the best player 2012 this is probably the best answer imo Blizzard Cup does not = Code S, MMA isn't even officially recognized as a 2 time GSL champion on Liquipedia. He's recognized as a 2 time GSL champion by GOM we should probably fix liquipedia then even still I can't count a 5 day tournament the same as we would a 3 month GSL season.
I agree, it's a completely different thing. GSL is so much more preparation based, this tournament is more about how well these guys are performing in a very short period of time. Doing well in GSL means more to me. Gotta be more consistent to do well.
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