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Starting page 57, any tangent that can be construed as SC2 vs BW will be bannable
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#961
most entertaining LR thread in a long time
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#962
The elephant graveyard in the room
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#963
On December 14 2012 20:45 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:42 T.O.P. wrote:
You guys are all criticizing fantasy saying he's playing like shit. To me eyes, he's showing a way higher level of play than I have ever seen from a SC2 terran. His mechanics may be bad right now. It might always be bad, after all he has around 250 apm .

he had:
Supply block
no scan ahead before heading to a cliff
poor macro
idle medivac hanging on zerg's base after the drop is cleaned
no scan ahead to confirm tech switch

I can care less if he's getting supply blocked, or has poor macro or forget medivacs. This is mechanics. I'm talking about RTS intelligence.

Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#964
On December 14 2012 20:46 samurai80 wrote:
Fantasy really didn't deserve to be in code S.


His plays vs Terran were Code S levels, seems like zerg is his weak spot.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#965
On December 14 2012 20:44 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:43 opterown wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:42 T.O.P. wrote:
You guys are all criticizing fantasy saying he's playing like shit. To me eyes, he's showing a way higher level of play than I have ever seen from a SC2 terran. His mechanics may be bad right now. It might always be bad, after all he has around 250 apm .

you must not watch many SC2 terrans then

No, I watched plenty. Compared to smart players like Fantasy, they play like retards.


I dont really feel like smart is right term when he lost game 1 because he didnt scan up the ramp. Fantasy truly had moments of brilliance that he would follow up 2 seconds later with some truly horrible ones.
Peix
Profile Joined May 2012
United States33 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#966
How did fantasy get so good at BW? That's what I'm wondering after watching this game.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
December 14 2012 11:47 GMT
#967
I don't know how a series of terrible games between only KeSPA players with no eSF guys involved has started one of the bigger KeSPA/eSF shitfests in a while
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#968
On December 14 2012 20:45 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:42 T.O.P. wrote:
You guys are all criticizing fantasy saying he's playing like shit. To me eyes, he's showing a way higher level of play than I have ever seen from a SC2 terran. His mechanics may be bad right now. It might always be bad, after all he has around 250 apm .

he had:
Supply block
no scan ahead before heading to a cliff
poor macro
idle medivac hanging on zerg's base after the drop is cleaned
no scan ahead to confirm tech switch

The marcro is really so poor, i can't believe this is from a SC1 elephant, and he is not just any elephant, he's fantasy.
Players like flash may encounter some understanding issue. But man, fantasy is just bad at sc2 mechanics.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#969
Fuckin GOMTV. I made an account a long time ago and I can't log in. I try to do a password retrieval and came to realize that having an email isn't good enough, you need a nickname as well as an email. I tried the only nicknames that I could possibly have and none work. Now im here trying to vent. UGH! No fucking games for me.
Wishing you well.
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#970
On December 14 2012 20:43 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:40 nkr wrote:
why does khaldor commentate like he always knows better than the players

just focus on calling what you see :/


He is, he sees those massive banks, supply blocks and empty production tabs and calls it poor macro.

Good job Khaldor


Thank you. This is a pretty tough match to commentate and I apologizeto the disappointed Fantasy and BW fans, but today he was just not able to keep up. You could really see his potential in SC2 though and I feel,if he improves on these points he can beat anybody
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#971
So where does this rank among worst series?
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#972
On December 14 2012 20:43 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:42 nkr wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:41 iKill wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:40 nkr wrote:
why does khaldor commentate like he always knows better than the players

just focus on calling what you see :/


That's the difference between playbyplay (which people often whine about) and analytical casting.
The problem is, analytical casting really doesn't sugarcoat fuckups from either player.


khaldor is not an analytical caster, he doesn't know the game nearly good enough to be in that role


QQ this guy dissed my fav playah QQ.
Seriously, it's getting old.

if that's how you see it then you're just ignorant
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 11:48:58
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#973
On December 14 2012 20:46 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:42 nkr wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:41 iKill wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:40 nkr wrote:
why does khaldor commentate like he always knows better than the players

just focus on calling what you see :/


That's the difference between playbyplay (which people often whine about) and analytical casting.
The problem is, analytical casting really doesn't sugarcoat fuckups from either player.


khaldor is not an analytical caster, he doesn't know the game nearly good enough to be in that role


Is this because he's saying things you don't like or because he's saying your preferred player is going to lose?

He's a decent analytical caster, not quite up to the Artosis standard but he's definitely not bad.


are you saying this because i said something you dont like or because your preferred caster is not getting positive feedback?

I disagree on the decent analytical caster, but I'm not going to change your mind I guess


No I'm saying what I'm saying because your comment is coming directly after a solid cast from Khaldor in which he calls out in no short order a fan favorite for incredibly obvious lapses in macromanagement and decision making.

There was nothing about any of his casts from this series that warrant the original comment you made about him. If you're making a general comment about a perceived lack of game knowledge then I sincerely recommend you try YOUR hand at casting so we can hear what yours sounds like.

I can say sincerely from personal experience that talking shit about a caster is much easier than actually doing it yourself.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#974
On December 14 2012 20:47 Waxangel wrote:
I don't know how a series of terrible games between only KeSPA players with no eSF guys involved has started one of the bigger KeSPA/eSF shitfests in a while

it's funny. I had to go and read the thread after the game since i was on the reply screen most of the time
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TL+ Member
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#975
DEAR GOD STOP THE MUSIC PLEEEEASE
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#976
On December 14 2012 20:47 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:45 ETisME wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:42 T.O.P. wrote:
You guys are all criticizing fantasy saying he's playing like shit. To me eyes, he's showing a way higher level of play than I have ever seen from a SC2 terran. His mechanics may be bad right now. It might always be bad, after all he has around 250 apm .

he had:
Supply block
no scan ahead before heading to a cliff
poor macro
idle medivac hanging on zerg's base after the drop is cleaned
no scan ahead to confirm tech switch

I can care less if he's getting supply blocked, or has poor macro or forget medivacs. This is mechanics. I'm talking about RTS intelligence.


I think army movement (including scanning ahead) and knowing what the opponent is getting are part of RTS intelligence.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#977
--- Nuked ---
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 14 2012 11:48 GMT
#978
On December 14 2012 20:47 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:45 ETisME wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:42 T.O.P. wrote:
You guys are all criticizing fantasy saying he's playing like shit. To me eyes, he's showing a way higher level of play than I have ever seen from a SC2 terran. His mechanics may be bad right now. It might always be bad, after all he has around 250 apm .

he had:
Supply block
no scan ahead before heading to a cliff
poor macro
idle medivac hanging on zerg's base after the drop is cleaned
no scan ahead to confirm tech switch

I can care less if he's getting supply blocked, or has poor macro or forget medivacs. This is mechanics. I'm talking about RTS intelligence.

so where exactly did he play intelligently?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
December 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#979
On December 14 2012 20:48 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:43 Diavlo wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:40 nkr wrote:
why does khaldor commentate like he always knows better than the players

just focus on calling what you see :/


He is, he sees those massive banks, supply blocks and empty production tabs and calls it poor macro.

Good job Khaldor


Thank you. This is a pretty tough match to commentate and I apologizeto the disappointed Fantasy and BW fans, but today he was just not able to keep up. You could really see his potential in SC2 though and I feel,if he improves on these points he can beat anybody


You did a good job all things considered, don't let the fanboys get you down because you were honest about their play.
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
December 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#980
On December 14 2012 20:48 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:43 Diavlo wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:40 nkr wrote:
why does khaldor commentate like he always knows better than the players

just focus on calling what you see :/


He is, he sees those massive banks, supply blocks and empty production tabs and calls it poor macro.

Good job Khaldor


Thank you. This is a pretty tough match to commentate and I apologizeto the disappointed Fantasy and BW fans, but today he was just not able to keep up. You could really see his potential in SC2 though and I feel,if he improves on these points he can beat anybody


no need to apologize; it was a good cast

on a seperate note, korean t v t's are really sick. flash vs baby is a good example if any. hope they can extend that to the other match ups.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
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