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if you drag this into ESF vs KeSPA territory, you will be banned
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#621
On December 15 2012 12:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:56 Caihead wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:56 Dodgin wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 zerious wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:54 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 zerious wrote:
dunno why people hate on Flash when he wins. No pro plays perfectly 100% of the time, especially in a fast-pace RTS like SC2.

Because no other player has fans that spout horseshit so voraciously.


Bisu


Stephano


(Z)sAviOr. Argument over.


can we go by a day without meantioning his name, especially today...sighhh.


okay I will be good.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 03:58:24
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#622
the most annoying thing is HerO fans and their reliance on the "oh it's his nerves" crutch
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#623
Whoever said that subscribing was the best $5 ever spent, thank you. It truly was indeed!
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#624
On December 15 2012 12:56 bo1b wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:55 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.

Still doesn't get supply blocked at 18/18. Did you watch any of the esv weeklies?




You just proved to us that you are clearly not a T user and perhaps not even at Diamond lvl.

So the average T user above diamond gets supply blocked for 30 seconds at 18 supply in a 1 rax expand?


Do you know how to do 1 rax expo ? If yes, tell me the build order.
Ares[S2000] West Op AresClan 난 요환이가 한번은 우승할거라고 믿어!
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#625
On December 15 2012 12:57 felisconcolori wrote:
This map makes Dustin Browder giddy. I like the relatively quick 3 base enforced macro aspect with the NR20 style rocks.

It's so nice, I bet Blizzard could put it in without any changes for the LE.


Still not enough rocks for ladder, sorry.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#626
On December 15 2012 12:57 opterown wrote:
what's the point of the neutral creep tumour balance-wise?

Zerg can expand faster than toss and terran, anything else?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#627
On December 15 2012 12:57 styleworks79 wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:51 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?



You really need to watch Flash's macro games dude. There is no one better in macro than Flash. Taeja and Bomber does have great macro but imo Bomber is like the closest thing to Flash from GSL.

How do you manage to convince yourself to believe this bullshit? Bomber is so much better then flash at macro lol.


Guess you did not see 15min maxed out army from Flash and how he manages to outmacro Z in his games.

You ever see bombers 13:30 2/2 max out vs zerg?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33685 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#628
On December 15 2012 12:58 foxmeep wrote:
Whoever said that subscribing was the best $5 ever spent, thank you. It truly was indeed!


I'm pretty sure they're gonna realize they fucked up and make it $5/month in January :/
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#629
On December 15 2012 12:56 Caihead wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:56 Dodgin wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 zerious wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:54 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 zerious wrote:
dunno why people hate on Flash when he wins. No pro plays perfectly 100% of the time, especially in a fast-pace RTS like SC2.

Because no other player has fans that spout horseshit so voraciously.


Bisu


Stephano


(Z)sAviOr. Argument over.


dragon
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#630
On December 15 2012 12:57 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:57 opterown wrote:
what's the point of the neutral creep tumour balance-wise?

so that the players cant take expand right off the bat.

On December 15 2012 12:57 eviltomahawk wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:57 opterown wrote:
what's the point of the neutral creep tumour balance-wise?

Let's Zerg expand early but not Terran or Protoss.

yeah, but why do so? was there some problem with terran or protoss fast expo
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#631
On December 15 2012 12:58 Waxangel wrote:
the most annoying thing is HerO fans and their reliance on the "oh it's his nerves" crutch

TLO and creativity?
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:01:20
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#632
6 minute double forge o_o

On December 15 2012 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
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On December 15 2012 12:56 Talionis wrote:
How do you scout as protoss on this map o_o

Have to open stargate?


RUSH HALLUCINATE

It's genius.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#633
On December 15 2012 12:57 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 Hider wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.


Taejas macro was never good lol. He would get 1000+ minerals in the mid/late game. I don't blame him because he played a mutltitask + micro heavy style, but he was never a good macroplayer.

He used to go super fast 3rd into like 5 extra orbitals. There is no player that played as greedily as he did mid game, and outside of bomber no one matched his production.


stop saying bullshit, there is one T crazy enough to go mass orbital in the early game and it's Gumiho. Taeja played absolutely standard in his macro game this summer and was macroing quite badly, maxing pretty late most of the time. Tho he doesn't rely on exceptionnal macro to win so it wasn't a problem.
You just don't know what you're talking about it's sad.
Zest fanboy.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#634
On December 15 2012 12:58 styleworks79 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.

Still doesn't get supply blocked at 18/18. Did you watch any of the esv weeklies?




You just proved to us that you are clearly not a T user and perhaps not even at Diamond lvl.

So the average T user above diamond gets supply blocked for 30 seconds at 18 supply in a 1 rax expand?


Do you know how to do 1 rax expo ? If yes, tell me the build order.



1 rax cc 2 refinery then any combination of scv/marine/depot.

Guy obviously doesn't know a thing about Terran lol.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#635
On December 15 2012 12:58 hootsushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:57 felisconcolori wrote:
This map makes Dustin Browder giddy. I like the relatively quick 3 base enforced macro aspect with the NR20 style rocks.

It's so nice, I bet Blizzard could put it in without any changes for the LE.


Still not enough rocks for ladder, sorry.


Hmm. Replace neutral supersized blister creep tumor with low health rocks?

OH HELL! Someone is using a reaper in a pro game, and it's not a HotS beta tournament!
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13412 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#636
The vlc link doesnt work for me is it the same for others?
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33685 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#637
On December 15 2012 12:59 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:58 Waxangel wrote:
the most annoying thing is HerO fans and their reliance on the "oh it's his nerves" crutch

TLO and creativity?


even TLO hates that D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#638
I would love to see a Protoss go phoenix on this map. I think going up to like 6 phoenix and having 3 patrol each side of your base would let you play ridiculously greedy.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#639
On December 15 2012 12:58 styleworks79 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.

Still doesn't get supply blocked at 18/18. Did you watch any of the esv weeklies?




You just proved to us that you are clearly not a T user and perhaps not even at Diamond lvl.

So the average T user above diamond gets supply blocked for 30 seconds at 18 supply in a 1 rax expand?


Do you know how to do 1 rax expo ? If yes, tell me the build order.

The point is that you don't wait for 200 minerals before building the depot at 17, by which time you are 18.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#640
On December 15 2012 12:59 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:58 foxmeep wrote:
Whoever said that subscribing was the best $5 ever spent, thank you. It truly was indeed!


I'm pretty sure they're gonna realize they fucked up and make it $5/month in January :/


Can it change for people already subscribed? It said FOREVER!
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