• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:51
CET 05:51
KST 13:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1354 users

[SPL] KT Rolster vs. Team 8 R1 - Page 32

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 52 Next
if you drag this into ESF vs KeSPA territory, you will be banned
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#621
On December 15 2012 12:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 Caihead wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:56 Dodgin wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 zerious wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:54 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 zerious wrote:
dunno why people hate on Flash when he wins. No pro plays perfectly 100% of the time, especially in a fast-pace RTS like SC2.

Because no other player has fans that spout horseshit so voraciously.


Bisu


Stephano


(Z)sAviOr. Argument over.


can we go by a day without meantioning his name, especially today...sighhh.


okay I will be good.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 03:58:24
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#622
the most annoying thing is HerO fans and their reliance on the "oh it's his nerves" crutch
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#623
Whoever said that subscribing was the best $5 ever spent, thank you. It truly was indeed!
styleworks79
Profile Joined May 2011
United States127 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#624
On December 15 2012 12:56 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:55 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.

Still doesn't get supply blocked at 18/18. Did you watch any of the esv weeklies?




You just proved to us that you are clearly not a T user and perhaps not even at Diamond lvl.

So the average T user above diamond gets supply blocked for 30 seconds at 18 supply in a 1 rax expand?


Do you know how to do 1 rax expo ? If yes, tell me the build order.
Ares[S2000] West Op AresClan 난 요환이가 한번은 우승할거라고 믿어!
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#625
On December 15 2012 12:57 felisconcolori wrote:
This map makes Dustin Browder giddy. I like the relatively quick 3 base enforced macro aspect with the NR20 style rocks.

It's so nice, I bet Blizzard could put it in without any changes for the LE.


Still not enough rocks for ladder, sorry.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 15 2012 03:58 GMT
#626
On December 15 2012 12:57 opterown wrote:
what's the point of the neutral creep tumour balance-wise?

Zerg can expand faster than toss and terran, anything else?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#627
On December 15 2012 12:57 styleworks79 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:51 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?



You really need to watch Flash's macro games dude. There is no one better in macro than Flash. Taeja and Bomber does have great macro but imo Bomber is like the closest thing to Flash from GSL.

How do you manage to convince yourself to believe this bullshit? Bomber is so much better then flash at macro lol.


Guess you did not see 15min maxed out army from Flash and how he manages to outmacro Z in his games.

You ever see bombers 13:30 2/2 max out vs zerg?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#628
On December 15 2012 12:58 foxmeep wrote:
Whoever said that subscribing was the best $5 ever spent, thank you. It truly was indeed!


I'm pretty sure they're gonna realize they fucked up and make it $5/month in January :/
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#629
On December 15 2012 12:56 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 Dodgin wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 zerious wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:54 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 zerious wrote:
dunno why people hate on Flash when he wins. No pro plays perfectly 100% of the time, especially in a fast-pace RTS like SC2.

Because no other player has fans that spout horseshit so voraciously.


Bisu


Stephano


(Z)sAviOr. Argument over.


dragon
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#630
On December 15 2012 12:57 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:57 opterown wrote:
what's the point of the neutral creep tumour balance-wise?

so that the players cant take expand right off the bat.

On December 15 2012 12:57 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:57 opterown wrote:
what's the point of the neutral creep tumour balance-wise?

Let's Zerg expand early but not Terran or Protoss.

yeah, but why do so? was there some problem with terran or protoss fast expo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#631
On December 15 2012 12:58 Waxangel wrote:
the most annoying thing is HerO fans and their reliance on the "oh it's his nerves" crutch

TLO and creativity?
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 04:01:20
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#632
6 minute double forge o_o

On December 15 2012 12:57 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 Talionis wrote:
How do you scout as protoss on this map o_o

Have to open stargate?


RUSH HALLUCINATE

It's genius.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 15 2012 03:59 GMT
#633
On December 15 2012 12:57 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 Hider wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.


Taejas macro was never good lol. He would get 1000+ minerals in the mid/late game. I don't blame him because he played a mutltitask + micro heavy style, but he was never a good macroplayer.

He used to go super fast 3rd into like 5 extra orbitals. There is no player that played as greedily as he did mid game, and outside of bomber no one matched his production.


stop saying bullshit, there is one T crazy enough to go mass orbital in the early game and it's Gumiho. Taeja played absolutely standard in his macro game this summer and was macroing quite badly, maxing pretty late most of the time. Tho he doesn't rely on exceptionnal macro to win so it wasn't a problem.
You just don't know what you're talking about it's sad.
Zest fanboy.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#634
On December 15 2012 12:58 styleworks79 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.

Still doesn't get supply blocked at 18/18. Did you watch any of the esv weeklies?




You just proved to us that you are clearly not a T user and perhaps not even at Diamond lvl.

So the average T user above diamond gets supply blocked for 30 seconds at 18 supply in a 1 rax expand?


Do you know how to do 1 rax expo ? If yes, tell me the build order.



1 rax cc 2 refinery then any combination of scv/marine/depot.

Guy obviously doesn't know a thing about Terran lol.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#635
On December 15 2012 12:58 hootsushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:57 felisconcolori wrote:
This map makes Dustin Browder giddy. I like the relatively quick 3 base enforced macro aspect with the NR20 style rocks.

It's so nice, I bet Blizzard could put it in without any changes for the LE.


Still not enough rocks for ladder, sorry.


Hmm. Replace neutral supersized blister creep tumor with low health rocks?

OH HELL! Someone is using a reaper in a pro game, and it's not a HotS beta tournament!
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#636
The vlc link doesnt work for me is it the same for others?
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#637
On December 15 2012 12:59 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:58 Waxangel wrote:
the most annoying thing is HerO fans and their reliance on the "oh it's his nerves" crutch

TLO and creativity?


even TLO hates that D:
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#638
I would love to see a Protoss go phoenix on this map. I think going up to like 6 phoenix and having 3 patrol each side of your base would let you play ridiculously greedy.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#639
On December 15 2012 12:58 styleworks79 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:56 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:55 styleworks79 wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:53 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:50 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:49 sAsImre wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:47 bo1b wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
On December 15 2012 12:43 bo1b wrote:
Mrbitter saying flash #1 multi tasking was lolzy. Will be good when flash stops getting supply blocked, so the people who say his macro is flawless won't be talking out of their ass so much.


it's not flawless, no one is flawless, he's just the closest thing to flawless

Have you ever seen taeja or mkp or mvp pre wrist explosion or bomber or gumiho or mma or... actually play?


Taeja macro is quite bad compare to his other skills lol. And Gumiho's macro isn't that good cause he doesn't focus too much on it. MKP probably have the best balance between macro/mutitask/micro and well as far as pure macro goes : <3 Bomber

When taeja was macroing properly on his hot streak there was no one who produced more then him. No one. Staying on 3 bases and staying below 500 minerals simply doesn't compete with having like 30 orbitals and production to boot.


lol Taeja max slower than most top T because he gets way too much supply blocks (less than Polt at least) and queue a tad too much too. There is like 0 skill involved after being max and banking as far as macro goes lol.

Still doesn't get supply blocked at 18/18. Did you watch any of the esv weeklies?




You just proved to us that you are clearly not a T user and perhaps not even at Diamond lvl.

So the average T user above diamond gets supply blocked for 30 seconds at 18 supply in a 1 rax expand?


Do you know how to do 1 rax expo ? If yes, tell me the build order.

The point is that you don't wait for 200 minerals before building the depot at 17, by which time you are 18.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#640
On December 15 2012 12:59 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 12:58 foxmeep wrote:
Whoever said that subscribing was the best $5 ever spent, thank you. It truly was indeed!


I'm pretty sure they're gonna realize they fucked up and make it $5/month in January :/


Can it change for people already subscribed? It said FOREVER!
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 52 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 7h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft514
RuFF_SC2 194
Ketroc 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36950
ZergMaN 171
Yoon 164
ggaemo 116
GoRush 81
sorry 56
Noble 40
Bale 10
Icarus 4
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm113
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 551
C9.Mang0439
Trikslyr58
Counter-Strike
summit1g7384
minikerr37
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox384
Other Games
Mew2King83
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1133
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 109
• practicex 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22202
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.