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[Code A] RO32 Day 2 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 59

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KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
December 11 2012 14:24 GMT
#1161
Team Liquid slipping.

Up and downs are stacked too, so it'll be hard to get back to Code S.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 11 2012 14:30 GMT
#1162
how can anyone doubt mvps consistency? He was in the most gsl finals of ANYBODY. He made 2 finals this year during a time when all terrans were struggling. I dont think anybody can doubt that he IS the greatest player in sc2 so far. And he IS the greatest player before all the kespa players came. Lets see how he will do after his recovery
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 11 2012 14:47 GMT
#1163
On December 11 2012 22:18 thesums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 21:29 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 11 2012 21:20 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Have code S seeds been given out for next season?

Now it is hard to find people to give out, maybe stephano? But who else, Some EG international players?

I think giving seeds to KeSPA players again will make some fans unhappy.


If Stephano does stay in Korea for Proleague, then I'd have to assume it'd be him and Idra.


NONO, I hope they do not give code S seeds out! It runes the game seriously. Maybe code A seeds but not code S. If Stephano or Idra wants to get in they need to do what the Koreans do, they cannot get special treatment. The foreigners still have a lot of prove, you cannot lower the standards just for fan appeal. It would almost be like match-fixing, why not just put foreigners into top 4 a few seasons later?

But I would not mind foreign tournaments seeding korean players that do well in Code S, that is reasonable because being the Koreans are the better players.


1. give steaphno code s seed
2. foreign fan subscription increases by 350x
3. ???
4. profit!
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 11 2012 14:51 GMT
#1164
Seeding Idra? Are you serious? Why should he be more deserving of a code s seed than any other foreigner lol
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
December 11 2012 14:55 GMT
#1165
yeah seems like HerO and Taeja were too jet lagged
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 11 2012 15:02 GMT
#1166
All the travel finally caught up to the Liquid's, it was bound to happen. Happy to see Fantasy and Yonghwa make it.
NightElf
Profile Joined July 2012
Bangladesh117 Posts
December 11 2012 15:14 GMT
#1167
EZPZ times are over for TSL players..Now kespa players are coming..
With there unorthodox style,multitasking ability and aggression will find their weakness..
If they dont practice like Kespa players usually do..tough time is ahead for them....
None excites me more than jaedong...
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 15:26:11
December 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#1168
Not surprised Taeja and HerO lost. Didn't they just arrive back in Korea?

and....WOOT!!! Fantasy gogogogogo!!!!!
I'm a noob
T0F4sT
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands317 Posts
December 11 2012 15:25 GMT
#1169
On December 11 2012 23:51 Bam Lee wrote:
Seeding Idra? Are you serious? Why should he be more deserving of a code s seed than any other foreigner lol



The history of him with GSL/Code S and the amount of fans.
EGdoto #dealwithit
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
December 11 2012 15:28 GMT
#1170
These Kespa Terrans are really impressive. Fantasy and Flash!!!!
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 11 2012 15:35 GMT
#1171
On December 11 2012 23:08 Apolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 22:43 andaylin wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:42 thesums wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:30 Irre wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:22 thesums wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:00 Gladiator333 wrote:
On December 11 2012 20:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Really disappointment in Taeja for last couple of tournaments..... Mvp only consistent terran since the release of the game.


Well MVP is the best player of this game so far, out of any race.


The game is too rock paper scissors, so consistency cannot be expected. Even if MvP is the most consistent in SC2, I would not say he is consistent by standards of BW or other sports for that matter. He dropped to Code A a couple of times already, and his win ratio is not top 5. His recent performance has not been very good either.


blasphemy. He was just in the finals a season ago and narrowly lost by one game. He already won a championship and an International tourney and got to ro8 or ro4 in the other GSL season right? I don't know how much you expect from someone who has been injured since the end of last year and his arms go numb playing...

I agree that the game is somewhat unstable and there are too many factors to keep people from being so high on a pedastal they can never lose games, but MVP by sc2 standards is the most consistent top tier player. You would never not say he was top 5 in the game. There are only a few players that have stayed in the top tier of play in Sc2 this long. Furthermore, he adapted to sc2 and became the best in the shortest amount of time of anyone from Kespa still...so consider that as well.


You do have good points, but MvP dropping into Code A after being runner-up in previous season does not make sense at all. Life also got relegated. Just goes to show the inconsistent nature of the game. MvP has always been my favorite Sc2 terran (being a terran myself), especially back in the days when his TvT was like a crazy 90 percent.

I did not say MVP is not top 5, but his win ratio is not top 5. Check http://www.gomtv.net/ under the WR tab for either sets or matches. MVP is not in there (nor any terrans).

I just want to point out that you refer to Mvp by MvP and MVP but never by his proper ID Mvp. Since he's your favorite terran you should learn his ID.


This. MvP is nothing, MVP is a team, and Mvp is a player.


Blasphemy. Mvp is God. Also MvP was a stupid wannabe tournament that no one watched.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
December 11 2012 15:40 GMT
#1172
On December 12 2012 00:35 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:08 Apolo wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:43 andaylin wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:42 thesums wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:30 Irre wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:22 thesums wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:00 Gladiator333 wrote:
On December 11 2012 20:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
Really disappointment in Taeja for last couple of tournaments..... Mvp only consistent terran since the release of the game.


Well MVP is the best player of this game so far, out of any race.


The game is too rock paper scissors, so consistency cannot be expected. Even if MvP is the most consistent in SC2, I would not say he is consistent by standards of BW or other sports for that matter. He dropped to Code A a couple of times already, and his win ratio is not top 5. His recent performance has not been very good either.


blasphemy. He was just in the finals a season ago and narrowly lost by one game. He already won a championship and an International tourney and got to ro8 or ro4 in the other GSL season right? I don't know how much you expect from someone who has been injured since the end of last year and his arms go numb playing...

I agree that the game is somewhat unstable and there are too many factors to keep people from being so high on a pedastal they can never lose games, but MVP by sc2 standards is the most consistent top tier player. You would never not say he was top 5 in the game. There are only a few players that have stayed in the top tier of play in Sc2 this long. Furthermore, he adapted to sc2 and became the best in the shortest amount of time of anyone from Kespa still...so consider that as well.


You do have good points, but MvP dropping into Code A after being runner-up in previous season does not make sense at all. Life also got relegated. Just goes to show the inconsistent nature of the game. MvP has always been my favorite Sc2 terran (being a terran myself), especially back in the days when his TvT was like a crazy 90 percent.

I did not say MVP is not top 5, but his win ratio is not top 5. Check http://www.gomtv.net/ under the WR tab for either sets or matches. MVP is not in there (nor any terrans).

I just want to point out that you refer to Mvp by MvP and MVP but never by his proper ID Mvp. Since he's your favorite terran you should learn his ID.


This. MvP is nothing, MVP is a team, and Mvp is a player.


Blasphemy. Mvp is God. Also MvP was a stupid wannabe tournament that no one watched.

MvP tourny was fucking sweet, it was a great tournament with awesome games,,,,, I would buy it again if they do another.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
December 11 2012 15:56 GMT
#1173
On December 12 2012 00:14 NightElf wrote:
EZPZ times are over for TSL players..Now kespa players are coming..
With there unorthodox style,multitasking ability and aggression will find their weakness..
If they dont practice like Kespa players usually do..tough time is ahead for them....

The true top players are still ahead of kespa...but yes some of the kespa players are code S materials but not championship one...and the stars of broodwar are actually the worst...look at flash/jaedong/bisu etc they are doing the worst!1!
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 11 2012 16:18 GMT
#1174
I would've been happy with either Taeja or Genius, but damn. I didn't expect Genius to actually win.
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
December 11 2012 16:30 GMT
#1175
Why did genius leave MVP again? Any chance they could pick him back up again? TSL could use a protoss like Genius, but they're tight on money probably.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
December 11 2012 16:30 GMT
#1176
On December 12 2012 00:25 T0F4sT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:51 Bam Lee wrote:
Seeding Idra? Are you serious? Why should he be more deserving of a code s seed than any other foreigner lol



The history of him with GSL/Code S and the amount of fans.

He would lose first round.
NightElf
Profile Joined July 2012
Bangladesh117 Posts
December 11 2012 16:32 GMT
#1177
On December 12 2012 00:56 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:14 NightElf wrote:
EZPZ times are over for TSL players..Now kespa players are coming..
With there unorthodox style,multitasking ability and aggression will find their weakness..
If they dont practice like Kespa players usually do..tough time is ahead for them....

The true top players are still ahead of kespa...but yes some of the kespa players are code S materials but not championship one...and the stars of broodwar are actually the worst...look at flash/jaedong/bisu etc they are doing the worst!1!


Well...This is their first season where they will play only SC2...This season i think they will be transformed..Considering how much they improved in short time..Only thing kespa players lacking in my opinion is decision making..It will keep getting better with practice..
As a zerg player i m really worried about stephano...He practice so less..In one of his tweet,he even said he is playing dota for fun.... >.<
None excites me more than jaedong...
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 11 2012 16:33 GMT
#1178
upset galore
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 11 2012 16:38 GMT
#1179
On December 12 2012 01:30 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:25 T0F4sT wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:51 Bam Lee wrote:
Seeding Idra? Are you serious? Why should he be more deserving of a code s seed than any other foreigner lol



The history of him with GSL/Code S and the amount of fans.

He would lose first round.


IdrA already got a seed this year into Code S. He dropped out to Code B instantly. Season 1 2012
리노크 👑
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
December 11 2012 17:10 GMT
#1180
On December 12 2012 00:25 T0F4sT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:51 Bam Lee wrote:
Seeding Idra? Are you serious? Why should he be more deserving of a code s seed than any other foreigner lol



The history of him with GSL/Code S and the amount of fans.

Getting to ro8 during a time when everybody was bad at Starcraft was a good history with GSL/Code S I guess. How about champions like Jjakji and Seed who won their titles with tough competitions?
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