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Altern
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1053 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2381
Go Hero! Still sad about game one, after seeing this game
_Galad_
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece184 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2382
That's what would had be done in the first map if he hadn't lost his Colossus to pathing...
Channel the Light of Aiur...
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2383
On December 10 2012 11:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I missed violet vs sortof and the first 2 games of this series but I assume violet is playing much better than he did vs Demuslim yesterday?

Hero messed up abit imo
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2384
On December 10 2012 11:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:19 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Just going to pull a top 10 list out of my ass.

1. MVP
2. DRG
3. Leenock (pretty interchangeable with 4)
4. Life
5. Taeja: The Summer of Taeja was incredible Starcraft
6. Stephano: People are forgetting just how good he was for a while.
7. Gumiho: Clutch teamleague monster, 2 GSTL titles
8. MC: Always there or thereabouts, however he is very inconsistent.
9. Seed: Broke the Protoss duck in GSL.
10. HerO: Consistently good play

I'd stick in Rain, but he's not been around for the whole year. He's also just dropped to Code B. If he showed the kind of play we've seen from him so far, over a longer period he'd 100% be in here.

Is this for player of the yar? How could mkp not crack top 10 for what he did in the first half of the year and now back to back ro8 code S?

He hasn't made deep Code S runs, or had a good spell over foreign tournies in different periods. That said, not his fault that Prime can't send him everywhere. If he'd have won WCG he probably would have made it in but he didn't do that well there alas. Parting likewise, much as I love him didn't quite do it for me.

That and the glasses. He looks like what Elton John would look like if he was reincarnated as a Korean progamer.

Come on HerO for game 2! That was a bit sloppy on his part, but that pathing is ridiculous. Daybreak is a terrible map anyway, surprised people aren't more vocal in having it removed

I don't see how Gumiho can be ranked above marineking
Marineking won a MLG championship and a MLG arena. 3rd at another MLG.
Gumiho only made it past the ro32 of Code S 1 time this year. every other season he lost in the ro32 including one season where he lost to Thorzain
Marineking made it to the ro16 or higher in every season of Code S this year.
Gumiho won 2 GSTLs. sure.
Marineking won 1 GSTL where he 4 killed in the finals and led the GSTL season with the best record.
Sure, Gumiho is the better player right now, but for the whole year? no way

The first half of 2012 before Taeja's explosion was the year of MKP. He was unstoppable in like every match up. His games against DRG in the MLG arena's were just unreal.

Gumiho has been more consistent throughout the whole year. But MKP's peak was way higher this year.

How is losing in the ro32 every season more consistent than making ro16 or ro8 every season?

MKP has been doing shitty outside of GSL for like the last 4-6 months. Whereas, to my knowedge, Gumiho hasn't been getting knocked out of tournies by no name zergs and trimaster.


To be fair Gumiho doesn't go to any international tournaments.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2385
On December 10 2012 11:28 Ghostcom wrote:
Such a great livethread, totally letting people know how the games are going and everything
/end rant from someone who is unable to watch.


HerO opts for the three base preBL timing after 4 gate with +1, choosing not to attack the fourth of viOLet on CK. Circumventing the spines, HerO goes for the third. viOLet chooses to go roach rather than BL, but the corruptors get destroyed by about 30 stalkers, and the colossus reign supreme.

2-1 viOLet
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2386
On December 10 2012 11:33 ref4 wrote:
hmmmm why did violet make a bunch more roaches instead of BL's???


I'd guess he was hoping to kill the collosii with corruptors and over run everything else.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26955 Posts
December 10 2012 02:33 GMT
#2387
On December 10 2012 11:30 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:19 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Just going to pull a top 10 list out of my ass.

1. MVP
2. DRG
3. Leenock (pretty interchangeable with 4)
4. Life
5. Taeja: The Summer of Taeja was incredible Starcraft
6. Stephano: People are forgetting just how good he was for a while.
7. Gumiho: Clutch teamleague monster, 2 GSTL titles
8. MC: Always there or thereabouts, however he is very inconsistent.
9. Seed: Broke the Protoss duck in GSL.
10. HerO: Consistently good play

I'd stick in Rain, but he's not been around for the whole year. He's also just dropped to Code B. If he showed the kind of play we've seen from him so far, over a longer period he'd 100% be in here.

Is this for player of the yar? How could mkp not crack top 10 for what he did in the first half of the year and now back to back ro8 code S?

He hasn't made deep Code S runs, or had a good spell over foreign tournies in different periods. That said, not his fault that Prime can't send him everywhere. If he'd have won WCG he probably would have made it in but he didn't do that well there alas. Parting likewise, much as I love him didn't quite do it for me.

That and the glasses. He looks like what Elton John would look like if he was reincarnated as a Korean progamer.

Come on HerO for game 2! That was a bit sloppy on his part, but that pathing is ridiculous. Daybreak is a terrible map anyway, surprised people aren't more vocal in having it removed

I don't see how Gumiho can be ranked above marineking
Marineking won a MLG championship and a MLG arena. 3rd at another MLG.
Gumiho only made it past the ro32 of Code S 1 time this year. every other season he lost in the ro32 including one season where he lost to Thorzain
Marineking made it to the ro16 or higher in every season of Code S this year.
Gumiho won 2 GSTLs. sure.
Marineking won 1 GSTL where he 4 killed in the finals and led the GSTL season with the best record.
Sure, Gumiho is the better player right now, but for the whole year? no way

The first half of 2012 before Taeja's explosion was the year of MKP. He was unstoppable in like every match up. His games against DRG in the MLG arena's were just unreal.

Gumiho has been more consistent throughout the whole year. But MKP's peak was way higher this year.

How is losing in the ro32 every season more consistent than making ro16 or ro8 every season?

MKP has been doing shitty outside of GSL for like the last 4-6 months. Whereas, to my knowedge, Gumiho hasn't been getting knocked out of tournies by no name zergs and trimaster.

he hasn't been playing in these tourneys...

Like I said, I wanted to stick in one player solely for their teamleague exploits. Yongwha or Gumiho it was, but FXO got those shiny winner's medals

HerO, well played. His warp prism micro is among the best in the game, he doesn't just use it to show off, but does it very effectively to save tech units.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
December 10 2012 02:34 GMT
#2388
Is it weird to think the Hots games were more entertaining than the finals
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
Scynite
Profile Joined December 2012
United States3 Posts
December 10 2012 02:34 GMT
#2389
Sooo I saw a tweet with a HoTS beta key, how long have those been going on?
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 02:35:35
December 10 2012 02:34 GMT
#2390
LOL that guy in the crowd responding <3

Sooo I saw a tweet with a HoTS beta key, how long have those been going on?


Since yesterday. I got one for myself and my friend and you can too. Just watch the bottom of the screen and make sure your stream is up to speed (refresh it several times as you watch). Also, have insane WPM or you're screwed.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
December 10 2012 02:34 GMT
#2391
On December 10 2012 11:33 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:32 bourne117 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:22 Wombat_NI wrote:
I wanted to reward at least one player for teamleague chops. Life, Taeja and Leenock got in for their individual league play, Gumiho got an allkill and a 3kill in consecutive GSTL finals, a close-to-unique achievement this season and was no scrub in the regular season. Like Seed he showed an individually impressive achievement, to me anyway. That and his style is the world's sexiest when he's on song.

Come on HerO. Rain/Creator style 3 base timing, you got dis.

Taeja got a ton of rep for the IPL TAC performance. Basically all killed or got 4 kills on every top korean team and almost double all killed IM in the finals. To me that is better than Gumiho or MKP to be honest. Those guys had way better supporting line ups. For Taeja it was literary Team Taeja.



If you want to talk about GSTL, Yonghwa all killed twice this season, yet nobody is talking about him :p


All YongHwa has is HSC second place and two all-kills, while TaeJa had two championships and basically carried Liquid to the IPLTAC3 finals and a runner-up at DreamHack.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#2392
On December 10 2012 11:34 CikaZombi wrote:
Is it weird to think the Hots games were more entertaining than the finals


The games today for WoL have been ok-ish (well at least the Hero vs. Violet stuff and game 1 of the 3rd place match). I am REALLY excited for HotS though and hope balance stays wonky and we get crazy games for months with balance patches to fix stuff that is way out of control.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
December 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#2393
I hope violet win the next one, i wanna see him finish 1st !
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#2394
On December 10 2012 11:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:30 opterown wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:19 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Just going to pull a top 10 list out of my ass.

1. MVP
2. DRG
3. Leenock (pretty interchangeable with 4)
4. Life
5. Taeja: The Summer of Taeja was incredible Starcraft
6. Stephano: People are forgetting just how good he was for a while.
7. Gumiho: Clutch teamleague monster, 2 GSTL titles
8. MC: Always there or thereabouts, however he is very inconsistent.
9. Seed: Broke the Protoss duck in GSL.
10. HerO: Consistently good play

I'd stick in Rain, but he's not been around for the whole year. He's also just dropped to Code B. If he showed the kind of play we've seen from him so far, over a longer period he'd 100% be in here.

Is this for player of the yar? How could mkp not crack top 10 for what he did in the first half of the year and now back to back ro8 code S?

He hasn't made deep Code S runs, or had a good spell over foreign tournies in different periods. That said, not his fault that Prime can't send him everywhere. If he'd have won WCG he probably would have made it in but he didn't do that well there alas. Parting likewise, much as I love him didn't quite do it for me.

That and the glasses. He looks like what Elton John would look like if he was reincarnated as a Korean progamer.

Come on HerO for game 2! That was a bit sloppy on his part, but that pathing is ridiculous. Daybreak is a terrible map anyway, surprised people aren't more vocal in having it removed

I don't see how Gumiho can be ranked above marineking
Marineking won a MLG championship and a MLG arena. 3rd at another MLG.
Gumiho only made it past the ro32 of Code S 1 time this year. every other season he lost in the ro32 including one season where he lost to Thorzain
Marineking made it to the ro16 or higher in every season of Code S this year.
Gumiho won 2 GSTLs. sure.
Marineking won 1 GSTL where he 4 killed in the finals and led the GSTL season with the best record.
Sure, Gumiho is the better player right now, but for the whole year? no way

The first half of 2012 before Taeja's explosion was the year of MKP. He was unstoppable in like every match up. His games against DRG in the MLG arena's were just unreal.

Gumiho has been more consistent throughout the whole year. But MKP's peak was way higher this year.

How is losing in the ro32 every season more consistent than making ro16 or ro8 every season?

MKP has been doing shitty outside of GSL for like the last 4-6 months. Whereas, to my knowedge, Gumiho hasn't been getting knocked out of tournies by no name zergs and trimaster.

he hasn't been playing in these tourneys...

Like I said, I wanted to stick in one player solely for their teamleague exploits. Yongwha or Gumiho it was, but FXO got those shiny winner's medals

HerO, well played. His warp prism micro is among the best in the game, he doesn't just use it to show off, but does it very effectively to save tech units.


Sniper isn't quite as good as Gumiho or Yonghwa, but he was damn good in GSTL and won the GSL and got ro8 in IPL5.
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Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
December 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#2395
On December 10 2012 11:34 CikaZombi wrote:
Is it weird to think the Hots games were more entertaining than the finals


Yes it is, unless you don't like PvZ

Even though the games might not be that great so far, it's still the finals with a lot on the line.
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1256 Posts
December 10 2012 02:36 GMT
#2396
lol, that star patrol pattern!
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 10 2012 02:36 GMT
#2397
Oh it's THIS map
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 10 2012 02:36 GMT
#2398
On December 10 2012 11:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:30 opterown wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:19 Megabuster123 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 11:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:50 Wombat_NI wrote:
Just going to pull a top 10 list out of my ass.

1. MVP
2. DRG
3. Leenock (pretty interchangeable with 4)
4. Life
5. Taeja: The Summer of Taeja was incredible Starcraft
6. Stephano: People are forgetting just how good he was for a while.
7. Gumiho: Clutch teamleague monster, 2 GSTL titles
8. MC: Always there or thereabouts, however he is very inconsistent.
9. Seed: Broke the Protoss duck in GSL.
10. HerO: Consistently good play

I'd stick in Rain, but he's not been around for the whole year. He's also just dropped to Code B. If he showed the kind of play we've seen from him so far, over a longer period he'd 100% be in here.

Is this for player of the yar? How could mkp not crack top 10 for what he did in the first half of the year and now back to back ro8 code S?

He hasn't made deep Code S runs, or had a good spell over foreign tournies in different periods. That said, not his fault that Prime can't send him everywhere. If he'd have won WCG he probably would have made it in but he didn't do that well there alas. Parting likewise, much as I love him didn't quite do it for me.

That and the glasses. He looks like what Elton John would look like if he was reincarnated as a Korean progamer.

Come on HerO for game 2! That was a bit sloppy on his part, but that pathing is ridiculous. Daybreak is a terrible map anyway, surprised people aren't more vocal in having it removed

I don't see how Gumiho can be ranked above marineking
Marineking won a MLG championship and a MLG arena. 3rd at another MLG.
Gumiho only made it past the ro32 of Code S 1 time this year. every other season he lost in the ro32 including one season where he lost to Thorzain
Marineking made it to the ro16 or higher in every season of Code S this year.
Gumiho won 2 GSTLs. sure.
Marineking won 1 GSTL where he 4 killed in the finals and led the GSTL season with the best record.
Sure, Gumiho is the better player right now, but for the whole year? no way

The first half of 2012 before Taeja's explosion was the year of MKP. He was unstoppable in like every match up. His games against DRG in the MLG arena's were just unreal.

Gumiho has been more consistent throughout the whole year. But MKP's peak was way higher this year.

How is losing in the ro32 every season more consistent than making ro16 or ro8 every season?

MKP has been doing shitty outside of GSL for like the last 4-6 months. Whereas, to my knowedge, Gumiho hasn't been getting knocked out of tournies by no name zergs and trimaster.

he hasn't been playing in these tourneys...

Like I said, I wanted to stick in one player solely for their teamleague exploits. Yongwha or Gumiho it was, but FXO got those shiny winner's medals

HerO, well played. His warp prism micro is among the best in the game, he doesn't just use it to show off, but does it very effectively to save tech units.

you forget that MKP won prime GSTL, KSL and IPLTAC this year too lol
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Canada1047 Posts
December 10 2012 02:38 GMT
#2399
Hero you sneaky son of a bitch...
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
Sabu113
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United States11086 Posts
December 10 2012 02:40 GMT
#2400
Mnn. Imagine how good HerO was at sair reaver.



Annd as usual everything scouted.
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