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Ladies and gentlemen, it is page 143 and any patchzerg, balance related commentary and the usual bashing etc from this point on will be met with harsh moderation.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1641
On December 01 2012 06:55 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 JacobShock wrote:
Snute just beat arguably one of the worlds best ZvZers. GRATZ!


He's not one of the worlds best ZvZ players anymore and has not been for a few months.

What?

I'd only put Leenock and Hyun ahead of him.

Suppy has really good ZvZ as well lol
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1642
On December 01 2012 06:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:55 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:53 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 WhurreOdu wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Xodushai wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute is awesome, but don't be silly


You're right, it's Finnland!


Denmark, clearly.

Iceland?


#1 cannon rusher

Just ask demuslim.
Glorious SEA doto
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1643
On December 01 2012 06:55 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:54 Hiea wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 Fusilero wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:50 TommyP wrote:
TaeJa best player ever
Rain best player ever
Life best player ever

Who's next community?

Parting, just ask tasteless.

Nah, it went more like..

Fruitdealer
NesTea
Mvp
MC
NesTea
Mvp
MMA
DRG
MKP
TaeJa
Rain
Life
Leenock
???????


should be another DRG after MKP i think

Nah, only thing DRG did after MKP was win MLG Spring Championship, where MKP still did get third, but it was more a transition period, with no real "best player".
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 21:59:10
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1644
On December 01 2012 06:54 Waio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:53 negativedge wrote:
...snute beat life?

biggest upset of the tournament so far, definitely


This, i dont even understand, he choked or something.


Apparently he isn't very good at ZvZ right now .
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1645
On December 01 2012 06:56 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:55 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:53 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 WhurreOdu wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Xodushai wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute is awesome, but don't be silly


You're right, it's Finnland!


Denmark, clearly.

Iceland?


Damn, you're right. Gaulzi is god.


His Liquidpedia-article is... interesting.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1646
Reading the Twitch chat after that game makes me so mad... Whoever calls Life a patchzerg is going to earn a visit from me, seriously ;_;

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm so sad
AdministratorBreak the chains
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1647
On December 01 2012 06:55 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:52 EntDreamin wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:46 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:42 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:38 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:37 iEchoic wrote:
Hahaha listen to the audience boo. I can't believe that attack worked, that was the worst-positioned attack I've ever seen.


Thats zerg for you. That ling flank was so late as well but it still did not matter.


LOL Taeja had no turrets or combat shields; his army was just completely unprepared for any form of attack. Good try to exploit Taeja's mistakes for balance whine, though.


Oh hay, infestors.

See the difference?


The rallying cry of balance whiners everywhere: "Oh hay, infestors."

Seriously, the only infestor that mattered in that fight was the burrowed one that wrecked Taeja's tank line. You're pretending that Taeja made no mistakes and that the infestors just rolled over him.


I'm so amazed that after we had to endure for such a long long time the terran explanations about why they were not OP, how they were just playing better and so forth, the zergs are now so ready to put on the same shoes and fit in the same spot.

You'd think they would have had a prime example of how it made them look.


But it was always the same 3-5 Terrans winning. Always. Now it's like 50000 patch zergs that 1A armies and have "amazing fungals!!!1!"


So, are those patch zergs winning because of BL/infestor or because of queen range and overlord speed? I'm confused.

Blizzard, nerf us plz, make this stop.

I would also rather have TL do what they have always fucking done and fucking stop balance whining in these threads. I mean what the fuck put up the no balance whine shit in this thread or LR threads already like we had in the past when SC2 was supposively much more "balanced."
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1648
On December 01 2012 06:54 Gorilla23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:52 ES.Genie wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:50 TommyP wrote:
TaeJa best player ever
Rain best player ever
Life best player ever

Who's next community?

People already forgot about Mvp?


It's kind of a sarcastic comment. "Best player ever" as in an overhyped player. That's why Mvp does not belong in that list but others may.

I know, that's why I brought his name up. All this talk about "best player ever" is stupid, since nobody can even come close to Mvp in WoL. We can argue about "best player ever" again when Hots comes out.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 30 2012 21:57 GMT
#1649
Wow, I wake up and Life was eliminated by Snute. I did not expect that. I'm still kind of hoping its an error on Liquipedia.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1650
On December 01 2012 06:50 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:50 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute does not even match up to one of the two huge swedish players(naniwa/thorzain).

Sorry bro

Oh come one, let them have this one.

Condescending Swedes. How typical.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
EntDreamin
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand45 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1651
On December 01 2012 06:55 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:52 EntDreamin wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:46 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:42 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:38 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:37 iEchoic wrote:
Hahaha listen to the audience boo. I can't believe that attack worked, that was the worst-positioned attack I've ever seen.


Thats zerg for you. That ling flank was so late as well but it still did not matter.


LOL Taeja had no turrets or combat shields; his army was just completely unprepared for any form of attack. Good try to exploit Taeja's mistakes for balance whine, though.


Oh hay, infestors.

See the difference?


The rallying cry of balance whiners everywhere: "Oh hay, infestors."

Seriously, the only infestor that mattered in that fight was the burrowed one that wrecked Taeja's tank line. You're pretending that Taeja made no mistakes and that the infestors just rolled over him.


I'm so amazed that after we had to endure for such a long long time the terran explanations about why they were not OP, how they were just playing better and so forth, the zergs are now so ready to put on the same shoes and fit in the same spot.

You'd think they would have had a prime example of how it made them look.


But it was always the same 3-5 Terrans winning. Always. Now it's like 50000 patch zergs that 1A armies and have "amazing fungals!!!1!"


So, are those patch zergs winning because of BL/infestor or because of queen range and overlord speed? I'm confused.

Blizzard, nerf us plz, make this stop.


Clearly both...queen range makes them immune to anything from terran until the 10 minute mark. And hive comes sooner, always under 15 minutes. And infestor/broodlord makes them basically unstoppable vs T and P.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1652
On December 01 2012 06:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:55 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:53 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 WhurreOdu wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Xodushai wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute is awesome, but don't be silly


You're right, it's Finnland!


Denmark, clearly.

Iceland?


#1 cannon rusher

Just ask demuslim.


Nah. I don't trust him. He's british.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1653
On December 01 2012 06:56 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:55 oogieogie wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 kabar wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:50 zerglingrodeo wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:48 EntDreamin wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:46 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:42 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:38 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:37 iEchoic wrote:
Hahaha listen to the audience boo. I can't believe that attack worked, that was the worst-positioned attack I've ever seen.


Thats zerg for you. That ling flank was so late as well but it still did not matter.


LOL Taeja had no turrets or combat shields; his army was just completely unprepared for any form of attack. Good try to exploit Taeja's mistakes for balance whine, though.


Oh hay, infestors.

See the difference?


The rallying cry of balance whiners everywhere: "Oh hay, infestors."

Seriously, the only infestor that mattered in that fight was the burrowed one that wrecked Taeja's tank line. You're pretending that Taeja made no mistakes and that the infestors just rolled over him.


Stop. You really enjoying these matches man? Remember TvZ midlate 2011-2012? That was enjoyable. Look at this bullshit now. And it's still better than all other matchups other than TvT.


I disagree. I think that the game is more interesting and fun to watch now than it has ever been. In all matchups.


i personally think sc2 has never been worse.

I prefer SC2 now compared to where zerg got raped by all ins in PvZ and TvZ. They still do, but at least it is better then before.

SC2 was at its best at the very start of the year imo when all the bad terrans got the boot, zergs had not figured out hive at 13 is legit and that banelings are all good I'd say the period from jjakji vs leenock to the patch.


Many games are at their "best" in their infancy, when tons of new and exciting strategies and plays are being developed. Remember HongUn's super wall vs FruitDealer? Back then it was revolutionary; today it would be passed off as a strong but mundane play.
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 21:59:44
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1654
On December 01 2012 06:55 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 JacobShock wrote:
Snute just beat arguably one of the worlds best ZvZers. GRATZ!


He's not one of the worlds best ZvZ players anymore and has not been for a few months.

What?

I'd only put Leenock and Hyun ahead of him.


He was the best player during spring 2012 and up until the summer. Then he started relying too much on gimmick 1 base openings and outmicroing his opponent instead of proper scouting and tech paths. Now he's just a good ZvZ player who doesn't particularly enjoy the matchup.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1655
On December 01 2012 06:55 Coolhwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:53 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 WhurreOdu wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Xodushai wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute is awesome, but don't be silly


You're right, it's Finnland!


Denmark, clearly.

Iceland?

Neither Finland or Iceland is part of scandinavia ....
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1656
On December 01 2012 06:55 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:52 EntDreamin wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:46 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:42 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:38 Hypemeup wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:37 iEchoic wrote:
Hahaha listen to the audience boo. I can't believe that attack worked, that was the worst-positioned attack I've ever seen.


Thats zerg for you. That ling flank was so late as well but it still did not matter.


LOL Taeja had no turrets or combat shields; his army was just completely unprepared for any form of attack. Good try to exploit Taeja's mistakes for balance whine, though.


Oh hay, infestors.

See the difference?


The rallying cry of balance whiners everywhere: "Oh hay, infestors."

Seriously, the only infestor that mattered in that fight was the burrowed one that wrecked Taeja's tank line. You're pretending that Taeja made no mistakes and that the infestors just rolled over him.


I'm so amazed that after we had to endure for such a long long time the terran explanations about why they were not OP, how they were just playing better and so forth, the zergs are now so ready to put on the same shoes and fit in the same spot.

You'd think they would have had a prime example of how it made them look.


But it was always the same 3-5 Terrans winning. Always. Now it's like 50000 patch zergs that 1A armies and have "amazing fungals!!!1!"


So, are those patch zergs winning because of BL/infestor or because of queen range and overlord speed? I'm confused.

Blizzard, nerf us plz, make this stop.

Agreed, thank god for infestor nerfs in the future, it might make pvz and tvz enjoyable
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 30 2012 21:58 GMT
#1657
Is anyone else getting lag, and does anyone else have any fixes?
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
November 30 2012 21:59 GMT
#1658
On December 01 2012 06:57 iNsaNe- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:56 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:55 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:53 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 WhurreOdu wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Xodushai wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute is awesome, but don't be silly


You're right, it's Finnland!


Denmark, clearly.

Iceland?


Damn, you're right. Gaulzi is god.


His Liquidpedia-article is... interesting.


"Brings the Icelandic national delicacy "Hákarl" to every major event and lets his fans taste the rotten shark meat."

Indeed
Fut am Bam
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
November 30 2012 21:59 GMT
#1659
On December 01 2012 06:56 Odoakar wrote:
Life...Jjakji and Seed are over there, you can't miss them.

God I hate how inconsistent this game is.

It was just one loss dude.

Maybe he's having a bad day, home sick, or just has the shits. Its too early to tell what Life will be.
#TheOneTrueDong
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
November 30 2012 21:59 GMT
#1660
On December 01 2012 06:58 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:55 Coolhwip wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:53 JacobShock wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:52 WhurreOdu wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:51 Xodushai wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:49 Mouzone wrote:
Norway confirmed for #1 Scandinavian SC2 country.


Snute is awesome, but don't be silly


You're right, it's Finnland!


Denmark, clearly.

Iceland?

Neither Finland or Iceland is part of scandinavia ....


Bam, finally someone called it

Funniest was Welmu not knowing this...
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