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Ladies and gentlemen, it is page 143 and any patchzerg, balance related commentary and the usual bashing etc from this point on will be met with harsh moderation.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1341
On December 01 2012 06:28 oogieogie wrote:
i sure do miss when TL put up the "no balance whine" for these threads.


I don't mind balance whine all to much, but these guys are going on about a match that ended like 30 mins ago!
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1342
On December 01 2012 06:28 Rui.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:26 Plansix wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:18 Undead1993 wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:16 _Galad_ wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:04 Derrida wrote:
To be honest, I thought Hero played close to optimal for a protoss who did not resort to immortal-sentry. Kill the morphing in greater spire, pushing, constant prism harrass, two good vortex... Not sure how he lost. Any insights?

The last two vortexes were awful, did you even watch the game. this wasl ike the worst engagement ever sorry i love hero but this was simply a thrown game with this engagement.

1st Vortex: Mothership was fungaled so he had to use it.
2nd Vortex: Was done because it was about to die.

But just think for a moment if it's logical that one ability is mandatory for one race to be able to win. It's either this or nothing. Doesn't make any sense to me.

You have templars they are supposed to feedback in such situations even if you show the templar the zerg has to evacuate the infestors and cant fungle the mothership anymore. feedback is underused by koreans in my opinion. they use also storm in infestors it isn't making any sense to me seriously, this ability is just made to eliminate infestors and ghosts.


HTs move at the speed of a thor, are made of candy glass, and should never be in front of a protoss army. Feedback does not out range fungle or BLs by any significant amount, either. Also, zerg has really good map awareness end game and will see HTs slowly floating toward their must faster infestors, which can burrow.

And there then there is that whole cloud of broodlings problem. Feeback is not a reliable solution to infestors.

how come when terrans complain about the exact same problem in tvp with collosi instead of bl tosses just say get better

Terran can use EMP on the army and ghost have cloak, which helps a bit. But I do agree it is the same idea except that it is way easier in TvP. Not saying it is easy but even.
It's good to be back
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1343
On December 01 2012 06:29 primal wrote:
where is artosis?

im guessing theyre (him and nick) are only going to cast GSL stuff.
#TheOneTrueDong
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1344
On December 01 2012 06:29 -_- wrote:
I hope we get to see Ryung Huk.

Already happened, 2-1 huk nice win for him.
Glorious SEA doto
Gesarjack
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland117 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1345
On December 01 2012 06:27 FlyingTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:26 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:25 FlyingTurtle wrote:
See that, balance whiners? THIS is how you play TvZ. Not Bomber's 100-marine clump into one-fungal-gg. THIS. Pre-emptive splits while kiting ultras. GG TAEJA.


Oh hay, no infestors.


LMFAO were you even watching that last fight? Sniper used a total of 3 fungals, which was pretty much the same amount Stephano used against Bomber in the last fight of LSC. The split made all the difference. Admit it.


...are you seriously making me spell it out? No I wasn't watching the game.

"Oh hay, opening with something else than infestor opening."

Now watch Sniper get back to standard in game 3.
You've got to have trolls under bridges. Otherwise, what's it all about?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1346
On December 01 2012 06:28 ladyumbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:25 Ettick wrote:
holy shit HuK beat Ryung
Is he back?

It takes months of consistent high placements in tournaments to judge the general condition and skill level of a player.

Not really. It only takes month of consistent high placements if you want to judge his or her skill to be "very good". Lousy placements will be quite sufficient otherwise.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
November 30 2012 21:30 GMT
#1347
lets go Sniper
For the Swarm * DRG *
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1348
On December 01 2012 06:27 Blacktion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:25 FlyingTurtle wrote:
See that, balance whiners? THIS is how you play TvZ. Not Bomber's 100-marine clump into one-fungal-gg. THIS. Pre-emptive splits while kiting ultras. GG TAEJA.

To be fair, taeja did insane splits that whole game while sniper a moves and F clicked. Game was closer than it shouldve been.


That game wasn't that close. Sniper was on 3 bases the whole time and even if he forced Taeja to evacuate his 3rd for a prolonged period he would still have 3 CCs going on 4 vs a 3 base, nearly mined out Zerg. Oh and yes, Sniper 1-a'ed a lot, but a simple marine split isn't that much harder for a player with 300 apm.
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
Left hand
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland133 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1349
Come on, Taeja! Kill at least one zerg.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1350
On a different note, I am honestly impressed by Huk.

I expected him to go 0-2, 2-1, 0-2 and get destroyed early.

And damn, he's one of the top performing foreigners! (best performance yer with scarlett, I don't count those who got directly seeded in WB Round 4)
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1351
Man Life sucks on this map.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1352
On December 01 2012 06:28 Jakatak_ wrote:
Does anybody else think Grubby sounds like Kermit the frog?

Yes. I've always thought this. o_o
Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1353
On December 01 2012 06:30 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:28 Jakatak_ wrote:
Does anybody else think Grubby sounds like Kermit the frog?


Well fuck, can't unhear.


haha same :D
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1354
On December 01 2012 06:28 karpotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:25 FlyingTurtle wrote:
See that, balance whiners? THIS is how you play TvZ. Not Bomber's 100-marine clump into one-fungal-gg. THIS. Pre-emptive splits while kiting ultras. GG TAEJA.


And at the same time, zerg is attack moving and spamming FFFFFF, while having all his army on one hotkey. Something is wrong here...


You people never stop posting do you? Take a hint.
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 21:32:16
November 30 2012 21:31 GMT
#1355
Please do well, HuK!
I'd love to see him place well in such a stacked tournament
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
November 30 2012 21:32 GMT
#1356
On December 01 2012 06:25 Ettick wrote:
holy shit HuK beat Ryung
Is he back?


Well Ryung got GSL semi final in 5 hours so dont think his played more then TvZ these last weeks.

Thought it is very im impressive that he did beat him.
scsnow
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovenia515 Posts
November 30 2012 21:32 GMT
#1357
On December 01 2012 06:14 mataxp wrote:
woha huk beating ryung, didnt expect that...


ryung has to relax a bit before code S...
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 30 2012 21:32 GMT
#1358
So, if Taeja wins here we get Hero vs Taeja against most likely lol.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 30 2012 21:32 GMT
#1359
On December 01 2012 06:31 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 06:28 karpotoss wrote:
On December 01 2012 06:25 FlyingTurtle wrote:
See that, balance whiners? THIS is how you play TvZ. Not Bomber's 100-marine clump into one-fungal-gg. THIS. Pre-emptive splits while kiting ultras. GG TAEJA.


And at the same time, zerg is attack moving and spamming FFFFFF, while having all his army on one hotkey. Something is wrong here...


You people never stop posting do you? Take a hint.

when even the TL mods seem to participate in it then I doubt much will happen.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 30 2012 21:33 GMT
#1360
ryung's tvp has never been great, and huk's pvt is good enough to take him out

no big surprise.

huk beating yoda would be a surprise, tho
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