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From page 85 and onwards anyone contributing to a gender discussion will face moderation.

I feel the need to remind people that balance commentary and complaints are not acceptable posts in LR topics due to the fact that they will derail any tournament topic that it is left unchecked in. If you participate in it you will be moderated.

It should also be clear that any SC2 vs LoL debates have no place in this thread.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3081
It's so frustrating to see protoss players stay on 3-4 bases and max out on gateway units facing a turtling infestor/brood player. It's like if a Zerg would max on roach/ling vs a P deathball and wonder why they lose. I really want Nani to win but it's just not possible for P to win lategame vs Z if they do not identify that they need to maxx expand/get shit lot of gas for templars/faster mommaship during the pretty long time where Z can't attack at all.
hundred thousand krouner
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3082
When Squirtle vs Yoda? oO
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3083
On November 30 2012 07:37 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:36 ChrisBrownPlaya wrote:
People complaine about immmortal sentry push. At least you can beat that. How are you gonna beat a 20 broodlord 15 infestors push??


Ask hero.. he own like every zerg.. so ?


Hero owns alot of zerg that hes better than, who would of thought the better player wins?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:40:17
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3084
On November 30 2012 07:38 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:36 EmilA wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:34 Maesy wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:32 Astro-Penguin wrote:
And people say this match isn't broken, disgusting man.

1 Fungal can just lose you the game, really well designed blizzard.


Don't be stupid and balance whine. Naniwa kept making stalkers as if it were actually going to do something. Stalkers aren't made to beat 20 tier 3 air units. Suck it up.


Don't be stupid and think Naniwa didn't play considerably better than Nerchio. Fucking retarded matchup.

He did play a lot better early to mid game, but then he gave up on the aggresive strategy and just let Nerchio mass up 20+ Broodlords...

Fucking stupid play if you ask me.


Eh he did a nice timing but after he lost his army (naniwa) he didn't even have his gas guysers finished. That is a huge blunder he was mining off of 2 base gas when he should have had 3 base gas for MINUTES. Naniwa did not play that game that good, people just like to blame imbalance because they are retarded.

He didn't even have his mothership out 25 minutes into the game, naniwa played awful after his mid game push failed.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3085
On November 30 2012 07:36 Sithril wrote:
Huh, almost no foreigners left in the winners brackets.

Am I the only one, to whom tourneys are getting boring becouse of korean dominance?


not if its good koreans playing, i have no idea how you can be bored of better players.
Sc2 always got your back
Twilight Sparkle
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia235 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3086
On November 30 2012 07:36 ChrisBrownPlaya wrote:
People complaine about immmortal sentry push. At least you can beat that. How are you gonna beat a 20 broodlord 15 infestors push??

People have beaten immortal sentry pushes when they got really lucky and everything went right for them. People have beaten infestor-corruptor-broodlord deathballs when they got really lucky and everything went right for them. Can't we just agree that the matchup is stupid right now and stop this "my race is so underpowered nerf other race plz" crap?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#3087
On November 30 2012 07:38 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:36 stuchiu wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:34 TheBB wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:30 stuchiu wrote:
Naniwa should of went

Don't you like... write... for TL?


i said to go soul push, but he didn't do it. At that point he had 2 options since he skipped his 3 base timing attack. Keep doing WP harass and hope he wins with that or just tech jump really fast to carriers. The first has an almost 0% chance of working. Carriers has at least a 2% chance of working.

"should of"

Generally, one would expect that a person who writes articles would never make that kind of mistake.

Exactly. -_-
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3088
Lol why would Naniwa try to macro vs a zerg after his push?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3089
On November 30 2012 07:39 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
When Squirtle vs Yoda? oO


Going on now. Don't know their American accounts, so can't stalk.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Boiler Bandsman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States391 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3090
WonWonWon pls. I don't want to see a single infestor.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3091
On November 30 2012 07:39 Flytothesky wrote:
I just got home to see IPL, omg production is so freakin awesome. o.O


That's GOMTV for ya, and they seriously are hands down the best at that.
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3092
On November 30 2012 07:38 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:36 stuchiu wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:34 TheBB wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:30 stuchiu wrote:
Naniwa should of went

Don't you like... write... for TL?


i said to go soul push, but he didn't do it. At that point he had 2 options since he skipped his 3 base timing attack. Keep doing WP harass and hope he wins with that or just tech jump really fast to carriers. The first has an almost 0% chance of working. Carriers has at least a 2% chance of working.

"should of"

Generally, one would expect that a person who writes articles would never make that kind of mistake.


should have =p
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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3093
Anyone have any idea how Sniper lost to TheSTC? STC hasn't been playing well recently and I'd expect Sniper, ready for GSL and all, to kinda crush.
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3094
On November 30 2012 07:39 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:36 Sithril wrote:
Huh, almost no foreigners left in the winners brackets.

Am I the only one, to whom tourneys are getting boring becouse of korean dominance?

No, I don't mind watching Koreans play at all. What I am getting bored with however, is the complete lack of Terran anywhere outside the GSL. It's gone from bad to unacceptable in recent months, with BWC as the biggest example.

There's more terrans than protoss in this tourney.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3095
Fuck!! So tired of all these PvZ and ZvZ! I want to see some INnoVatioN!
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3096
On November 30 2012 07:38 TheBB wrote:
Updated predictions.

72-man double elimination bracket

Most likely winners:
      Leenock: 13.86%
      TaeJa: 9.97%
      Life: 9.43%
      Creator: 8.92%
      DongRaeGu: 7.89%
      HerO: 6.10%
      Bomber: 5.39%
      viOLet: 5.19%
      Symbol: 4.67%
      Polt: 4.54%
      HyuN: 2.99%
      Scarlett: 2.71%
      MC: 2.33%
      San: 2.32%
      Bogus: 2.10%
      Seed: 2.02%

details, data source, code

+ Show Spoiler [Life expectancies] +
      TaeJa: 7.21 rounds (top 8)
      Leenock: 7.17 rounds (top 8)
      DongRaeGu: 6.61 rounds (top 8)
      Life: 6.58 rounds (top 8)
      Creator: 6.56 rounds (top 8)
      Polt: 6.54 rounds (top 8)
      HerO: 6.48 rounds (top 12)
      Bomber: 6.37 rounds (top 12)
      viOLet: 6.24 rounds (top 12)
      San: 6.14 rounds (top 12)
      Symbol: 6.01 rounds (top 12)
      Sleep: 5.95 rounds (top 12)
      Scarlett: 5.75 rounds (top 12)
      aLive: 5.61 rounds (top 12)
      Snute: 5.45 rounds (top 16)
      HyuN: 5.40 rounds (top 16)
      Bogus: 5.37 rounds (top 16)
      Crank: 5.33 rounds (top 16)
      MC: 5.33 rounds (top 16)
      TheStC: 5.12 rounds (top 16)
      xigua: 4.88 rounds (top 16)
      Seed: 4.43 rounds (top 24)
      Ryung: 4.33 rounds (top 24)
      Squirtle: 4.26 rounds (top 24)
      Genius: 4.09 rounds (top 24)
      Heart: 3.52 rounds (top 24)
      Sniper: 3.50 rounds (top 24)
      Shine: 3.02 rounds (top 32)
      YoDa: 2.90 rounds (top 32)
      Stephano: 2.58 rounds (top 32)
      HuK: 2.52 rounds (top 32)
      Nerchio: 2.35 rounds (top 40)
      MMA: 2.21 rounds (top 40)
      ToD: 2.18 rounds (top 40)
      LucifroN: 2.17 rounds (top 40)
      goswser: 2.17 rounds (top 40)
      Golden: 2.16 rounds (top 40)
      BBoongBBoong: 2.15 rounds (top 40)
      luvsic: 2.13 rounds (top 40)
      sculp: 2.00 rounds (top 40)
      Byun: 1.93 rounds (top 40)
      ByuL: 1.75 rounds (top 40)
      Naniwa: 1.53 rounds (top 40)
      CatZ: 1.48 rounds (top 56)
      ViBE: 1.45 rounds (top 56)
      theognis: 1.44 rounds (top 56)
      puCK: 1.31 rounds (top 56)
      HwangSin: 1.30 rounds (top 56)
      Sasquatch: 1.23 rounds (top 56)
      GanZi: 1.17 rounds (top 56)
      Caliber: 1.14 rounds (top 56)
      Vortix: 1.10 rounds (top 56)
      TubbyTheFat: 1.08 rounds (top 56)
      MaSsan: 1.05 rounds (top 56)
      drewbie: 1.04 rounds (top 56)
      Sea: 1.00 rounds (top 56)
      TriMaster: 0.91 rounds (top 56)
      sLivko: 0.82 rounds (top 56)
      Apocalypse: 0.38 rounds (top 72)
      Perfect: 0.15 rounds (top 72)
      Shuttle: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      Glon: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      Eifersuchtig: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      daisuki: 0.00 rounds (top 72)
      MajOr: 0.00 rounds (top 72)

+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
Detailed placement probabilities

Top 72 Top 56 Top 40 Top 32 Top 24 Top 16 Top 12 Top 8 Top 6 Top 4 Top 3 Top 2 Win
HyuN: 25.15% 22.06% 14.61% 12.22% 7.73% 5.85% 3.65% 2.78% 2.96% 2.99%
BBoongBBoong: 50.20% 10.56% 25.60% 6.72% 3.89% 1.79% 0.81% 0.32% 0.07% 0.03% 0.01%
Sea: 99.68% 0.32% 0.00%
Nerchio: 34.13% 29.18% 22.09% 5.57% 4.20% 2.62% 1.09% 0.48% 0.36% 0.15% 0.11% 0.03%
puCK: 72.34% 24.66% 2.81% 0.18% 0.01%
Creator: 14.41% 17.26% 12.38% 13.15% 9.03% 8.18% 5.81% 4.84% 6.02% 8.92%
Shuttle: 100.00%
DongRaeGu: 10.69% 16.50% 15.21% 14.81% 9.34% 8.74% 6.01% 5.05% 5.76% 7.89%
TubbyTheFat: 93.39% 5.64% 0.95% 0.02% 0.00%
Byun: 54.54% 21.70% 13.09% 4.02% 3.42% 1.63% 0.90% 0.41% 0.17% 0.08% 0.04% 0.01%
Squirtle: 13.65% 10.79% 20.08% 16.35% 13.05% 9.51% 5.78% 3.76% 2.31% 1.69% 1.61% 1.43%
CatZ: 64.27% 25.68% 8.10% 1.61% 0.29% 0.05%
YoDa: 29.56% 18.39% 21.33% 13.07% 8.06% 4.80% 2.18% 1.32% 0.56% 0.36% 0.23% 0.13%
Sniper: 3.88% 20.61% 35.00% 22.83% 8.37% 3.90% 2.31% 1.62% 0.75% 0.33% 0.31% 0.09%
Glon: 100.00%
TheStC: 24.02% 27.32% 13.43% 14.82% 6.46% 5.95% 2.81% 2.15% 1.82% 1.22%
ViBE: 66.83% 23.91% 7.27% 1.38% 0.49% 0.10% 0.02% 0.00%
Vortix: 44.79% 28.86% 10.31% 9.41% 3.23% 1.92% 0.79% 0.43% 0.13% 0.08% 0.03% 0.02% 0.00%
Caliber: 86.98% 12.29% 0.70% 0.03%
Bomber: 12.11% 18.84% 11.67% 17.04% 9.75% 9.60% 5.85% 4.87% 4.87% 5.39%
sLivko: 55.21% 25.60% 8.36% 6.89% 2.23% 1.02% 0.38% 0.20% 0.08% 0.03% 0.01% 0.00%
Life: 19.53% 12.88% 10.49% 13.43% 8.09% 8.27% 6.01% 5.40% 6.47% 9.43%
Perfect: 86.29% 12.74% 0.88% 0.08% 0.01%
HwangSin: 13.71% 56.56% 19.76% 7.48% 1.43% 0.70% 0.20% 0.11% 0.03% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
HuK: 18.05% 32.86% 33.52% 11.26% 3.23% 0.76% 0.21% 0.08% 0.03% 0.00%
Leenock: 15.43% 11.09% 9.13% 12.62% 8.16% 8.76% 6.65% 6.18% 8.12% 13.86%
Apocalypse: 70.16% 24.00% 4.08% 1.41% 0.26% 0.06% 0.02% 0.00%
GanZi: 29.84% 44.31% 13.37% 8.25% 2.01% 1.22% 0.54% 0.28% 0.11% 0.05% 0.02% 0.01% 0.00%
goswser: 31.61% 32.94% 25.68% 7.46% 1.78% 0.36% 0.11% 0.05% 0.01% 0.00%
Ryung: 0.14% 23.34% 23.16% 19.37% 10.20% 7.94% 4.23% 4.18% 1.99% 2.15% 2.02% 1.28%
Eifersuchtig: 100.00%
Golden: 49.80% 10.76% 25.30% 6.80% 4.16% 1.76% 0.92% 0.28% 0.13% 0.04% 0.02% 0.01%
Genius: 0.18% 26.46% 24.23% 19.04% 9.52% 7.36% 3.76% 3.81% 1.55% 1.66% 1.48% 0.95%
Scarlett: 12.82% 29.96% 14.56% 12.58% 7.10% 8.20% 3.73% 4.28% 4.06% 2.71%
drewbie: 47.34% 13.98% 28.47% 8.63% 1.14% 0.34% 0.07% 0.02% 0.00%
Naniwa: 65.87% 20.70% 10.06% 1.77% 1.01% 0.42% 0.11% 0.03% 0.02% 0.00% 0.00%
TriMaster: 52.66% 13.68% 25.55% 6.98% 0.83% 0.23% 0.06% 0.01% 0.00%
MC: 27.26% 27.05% 9.05% 10.53% 5.83% 7.15% 3.17% 4.00% 3.64% 2.33%
daisuki: 100.00%
MMA: 45.46% 23.72% 15.90% 5.05% 4.59% 2.45% 1.55% 0.69% 0.29% 0.17% 0.11% 0.01%
Shine: 6.61% 29.80% 36.79% 15.17% 7.30% 2.88% 0.91% 0.31% 0.14% 0.05% 0.03% 0.01%
sculp: 35.73% 38.89% 18.04% 5.20% 1.62% 0.40% 0.10% 0.02% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Symbol: 19.65% 24.03% 8.70% 11.50% 6.82% 9.28% 4.08% 5.57% 5.69% 4.67%
ByuL: 56.79% 25.41% 10.99% 2.88% 2.23% 0.91% 0.50% 0.20% 0.05% 0.02% 0.02%
Bogus: 27.29% 20.20% 12.25% 14.88% 6.73% 7.03% 2.84% 3.51% 3.17% 2.10%
MaSsan: 96.12% 3.16% 0.70% 0.02%
luvsic: 33.17% 37.57% 19.00% 5.83% 2.88% 0.95% 0.42% 0.11% 0.05% 0.02% 0.00% 0.00%
LucifroN: 45.54% 19.86% 20.13% 6.78% 4.34% 1.70% 1.04% 0.29% 0.18% 0.07% 0.05%
viOLet: 17.92% 17.30% 10.71% 15.69% 7.98% 9.29% 4.39% 5.50% 6.03% 5.19%
ToD: 13.02% 63.94% 16.69% 5.13% 0.88% 0.27% 0.04% 0.02% 0.01%
Seed: 11.78% 14.80% 18.85% 14.60% 10.76% 9.71% 5.23% 4.71% 2.34% 2.56% 2.65% 2.02%
Sasquatch: 81.95% 13.29% 4.33% 0.39% 0.04% 0.00%
Heart: 18.91% 20.82% 20.55% 13.60% 8.79% 6.91% 3.28% 2.93% 1.18% 1.25% 1.09% 0.69%
MajOr: 100.00%
Stephano: 31.70% 26.28% 22.78% 6.71% 5.27% 2.97% 2.22% 0.80% 0.62% 0.30% 0.25% 0.10%
theognis: 68.39% 20.91% 9.15% 1.39% 0.16% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
HerO: 11.71% 17.92% 14.70% 15.05% 8.21% 9.29% 4.83% 5.61% 6.59% 6.10%
TaeJa: 20.46% 12.28% 16.05% 9.67% 11.17% 6.64% 6.21% 7.55% 9.97%
Polt: 22.17% 17.91% 19.99% 10.31% 10.33% 5.65% 4.55% 4.55% 4.54%
Crank: 45.28% 14.79% 21.47% 7.44% 6.25% 1.97% 1.48% 0.91% 0.42%
xigua: 59.52% 16.00% 13.44% 4.21% 4.33% 1.00% 0.90% 0.44% 0.16%
Sleep: 35.33% 15.07% 18.60% 8.66% 10.03% 3.41% 4.45% 3.04% 1.42%
aLive: 45.14% 12.24% 17.25% 7.33% 8.66% 2.65% 3.57% 2.28% 0.88%
Snute: 47.98% 11.22% 20.23% 5.53% 7.21% 2.17% 3.16% 1.80% 0.71%
San: 30.33% 17.60% 20.40% 6.84% 9.69% 3.69% 4.97% 4.16% 2.32%

Most likely to be eliminated by...

HyuN: Stephano (12.31%) aLive ( 7.17%) Symbol ( 6.57%)
BBoongBBoong: Golden (50.20%) HerO (11.91%) Seed ( 7.83%)
Sea: Genius (51.81%) Ryung (47.86%) Nerchio ( 0.21%)
Nerchio: Naniwa (34.13%) Genius (14.63%) Ryung (14.61%)
puCK: drewbie (38.68%) TriMaster (33.66%) Golden (12.34%)
Creator: Stephano ( 7.27%) Symbol ( 6.42%) Leenock ( 5.62%)
Shuttle: Nerchio (100.00%)
DongRaeGu: Scarlett ( 6.73%) Creator ( 6.19%) Leenock ( 5.70%)
TubbyTheFat: Shine (93.39%) sculp ( 3.68%) CatZ ( 1.96%)
Byun: MMA (54.54%) ByuL ( 8.50%) Bogus ( 6.98%)
Squirtle: ByuL (13.67%) MMA ( 6.21%) Sleep ( 5.67%)
CatZ: sculp (64.27%) Shine (25.23%) TheStC ( 4.72%)
YoDa: ByuL (29.57%) MMA (10.33%) Byun ( 8.07%)
Sniper: ToD (20.16%) MC (18.45%) Symbol (17.05%)
Glon: ViBE (100.00%)
TheStC: Shine (17.73%) San (11.50%) HerO ( 9.05%)
ViBE: luvsic (66.83%) LucifroN (13.41%) Vortix ( 6.25%)
Vortix: sLivko (44.79%) LucifroN (28.86%) luvsic ( 7.93%)
Caliber: ToD (86.98%) Sniper (12.02%) MC ( 0.38%)
Bomber: Shine ( 9.19%) HerO ( 7.96%) San ( 7.61%)
sLivko: Vortix (55.21%) LucifroN (25.60%) luvsic ( 6.27%)
Life: Nerchio ( 8.29%) Snute ( 5.88%) Ryung ( 5.74%)
Perfect: HwangSin (86.29%) Heart ( 7.16%) Seed ( 5.58%)
HwangSin: Heart (31.17%) Seed (25.40%) Stephano (14.54%)
HuK: goswser (25.63%) Sasquatch (18.05%) Scarlett (16.17%)
Leenock: Nerchio ( 6.52%) viOLet ( 5.43%) Creator ( 5.22%)
Apocalypse: GanZi (70.16%) Stephano (24.00%) Heart ( 1.63%)
GanZi: Stephano (44.31%) Apocalypse (29.84%) Heart ( 5.32%)
goswser: theognis (31.61%) HuK (30.38%) Scarlett (12.72%)
Ryung: Nerchio (17.30%) Life (10.10%) Leenock ( 9.18%)
Eifersuchtig: Golden (100.00%)
Golden: BBoongBBoong (49.80%) HerO (11.61%) Seed ( 7.79%)
Genius: Nerchio (19.25%) Life (10.03%) Leenock ( 9.88%)
Scarlett: Polt (11.97%) DongRaeGu (11.65%) HuK ( 7.35%)
drewbie: TriMaster (47.34%) BBoongBBoong (14.24%) Golden (14.23%)
Naniwa: Nerchio (65.87%) Genius (10.76%) Ryung ( 9.95%)
TriMaster: drewbie (52.66%) puCK (13.68%) Golden (12.87%)
MC: Sniper (23.72%) TaeJa (11.31%) Creator (10.20%)
daisuki: MMA (100.00%)
MMA: Byun (45.46%) ByuL ( 9.30%) Bogus ( 8.53%)
Shine: sculp (21.70%) TheStC (20.67%) Bomber (16.29%)
sculp: Shine (38.37%) CatZ (35.73%) TheStC (10.38%)
Symbol: Sniper (17.37%) TaeJa (10.72%) Creator ( 9.95%)
ByuL: YoDa (32.66%) Squirtle (24.16%) MMA (14.35%)
Bogus: MMA ( 9.09%) Leenock ( 7.51%) xigua ( 7.24%)
MaSsan: Sniper (96.12%) ToD ( 2.89%) MC ( 0.39%)
luvsic: ViBE (33.17%) LucifroN (21.19%) Vortix ( 9.79%)
LucifroN: Vortix (26.35%) sLivko (19.20%) luvsic (15.06%)
viOLet: Leenock ( 8.28%) Life ( 7.71%) MMA ( 6.09%)
ToD: Sniper (63.48%) Caliber (13.02%) MC ( 8.91%)
Seed: HwangSin (11.45%) Stephano (11.40%) Creator ( 6.31%)
Sasquatch: HuK (81.95%) goswser ( 9.82%) theognis ( 3.47%)
Heart: HwangSin (18.27%) Stephano (15.63%) HyuN ( 6.89%)
MajOr: Sasquatch (100.00%)
Stephano: GanZi (25.86%) HyuN (12.67%) Heart (10.60%)
theognis: goswser (68.39%) HuK (18.71%) Scarlett ( 4.34%)
HerO: Bomber ( 7.50%) Leenock ( 6.57%) Crank ( 6.00%)
TaeJa: Sniper ( 9.19%) Symbol ( 8.08%) MC ( 6.84%)
Polt: Scarlett (10.57%) TaeJa ( 7.67%) Creator ( 5.98%)
Crank: HerO (17.07%) Seed (11.17%) Heart ( 7.93%)
xigua: Bogus (17.75%) viOLet (16.54%) MMA ( 8.96%)
Sleep: DongRaeGu (13.77%) Squirtle ( 9.73%) Creator ( 6.22%)
aLive: HyuN (16.34%) Creator (15.67%) Stephano ( 8.82%)
Snute: Life (18.70%) Leenock (18.18%) Nerchio ( 6.51%)
San: Bomber (12.10%) TheStC (11.64%) Leenock ( 8.02%)

Most likely to be sent to the losers' bracket by...

HyuN: Creator (58.83%) TaeJa (22.36%) DongRaeGu ( 3.95%)
BBoongBBoong: HyuN (100.00%)
Sea: BBoongBBoong (100.00%)
Nerchio: puCK (100.00%)
puCK: Creator (100.00%)
Creator: HyuN (41.26%) TaeJa (26.97%) DongRaeGu ( 5.87%)
Shuttle: Creator (100.00%)
DongRaeGu: Polt (25.89%) Squirtle (25.49%) YoDa (11.25%)
TubbyTheFat: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
Byun: DongRaeGu (100.00%)
Squirtle: YoDa (37.78%) DongRaeGu (36.75%) Polt (12.56%)
CatZ: Squirtle (100.00%)
YoDa: Squirtle (62.22%) DongRaeGu (26.53%) Polt ( 7.00%)
Sniper: TheStC (100.00%)
Glon: Sniper (100.00%)
TheStC: Bomber (60.28%) Crank (14.72%) Leenock ( 7.89%)
ViBE: TheStC (100.00%)
Vortix: Caliber (100.00%)
Caliber: Bomber (100.00%)
Bomber: TheStC (39.74%) Crank (16.56%) Leenock (12.00%)
sLivko: Bomber (100.00%)
Life: Leenock (53.81%) xigua ( 8.37%) Bomber ( 7.15%)
Perfect: Life (100.00%)
HwangSin: HuK (100.00%)
HuK: Life (100.00%)
Leenock: Life (46.46%) xigua ( 8.64%) Bomber ( 8.01%)
Apocalypse: Leenock (100.00%)
GanZi: goswser (100.00%)
goswser: Leenock (100.00%)
Ryung: Genius (48.00%) Scarlett (26.53%) Sleep (10.31%)
Eifersuchtig: Ryung (100.00%)
Golden: Genius (100.00%)
Genius: Ryung (52.00%) Scarlett (25.27%) Sleep ( 9.78%)
Scarlett: Ryung (25.47%) Genius (22.73%) Sleep (20.75%)
drewbie: Scarlett (100.00%)
Naniwa: Scarlett (100.00%)
TriMaster: Naniwa (100.00%)
MC: Symbol (55.20%) aLive (16.84%) Sleep ( 4.56%)
daisuki: MC (100.00%)
MMA: Shine (100.00%)
Shine: MC (100.00%)
sculp: Symbol (100.00%)
Symbol: MC (44.81%) aLive (18.23%) Sleep ( 5.46%)
ByuL: Symbol (100.00%)
Bogus: viOLet (56.73%) Snute (16.15%) HerO ( 5.73%)
MaSsan: Bogus (100.00%)
luvsic: Bogus (100.00%)
LucifroN: viOLet (100.00%)
viOLet: Bogus (43.29%) Snute (17.77%) HerO ( 7.45%)
ToD: viOLet (100.00%)
Seed: Heart (42.76%) HerO (31.00%) San (10.82%)
Sasquatch: Seed (100.00%)
Heart: Seed (57.24%) HerO (26.01%) San ( 8.01%)
MajOr: Heart (100.00%)
Stephano: HerO (100.00%)
theognis: Stephano (100.00%)
HerO: Seed (26.27%) San (21.25%) Heart (16.76%)
TaeJa: Creator (32.10%) HyuN (18.96%) DongRaeGu ( 9.73%)
Polt: DongRaeGu (37.48%) TaeJa (13.07%) Squirtle (12.95%)
Crank: Bomber (43.70%) TheStC (25.02%) Leenock (11.40%)
xigua: Leenock (45.05%) Life (37.97%) Bomber ( 5.77%)
Sleep: Scarlett (31.06%) Ryung (15.17%) Genius (12.95%)
aLive: Symbol (36.97%) MC (27.98%) Sleep ( 7.65%)
Snute: viOLet (38.95%) Bogus (27.14%) HerO ( 8.70%)
San: HerO (35.77%) Seed (15.45%) viOLet ( 9.42%)


There's a glitch there, the MC factor. No one expects him to win, then he wins
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#3097
stop balance whining people, Naniwa blew it. He had the game won for the most part but overextended while attacking the 4th and lost a lot of supply for nothing.

not to mention this gameplan was just...weird. Harass the third into expand into 3base all in just helped Nerchio get enough spines and infestors. Creator's 3 base timing attacks are much stronger
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:42:04
November 29 2012 22:41 GMT
#3098
On November 30 2012 07:34 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:32 Astro-Penguin wrote:
And people say this match isn't broken, disgusting man.

1 Fungal can just lose you the game, really well designed blizzard.


Don't be stupid and balance whine. Naniwa kept making stalkers as if it were actually going to do something. Stalkers aren't made to beat 20 tier 3 air units. Suck it up.


What else can you make? Carriers? Carriers are complete crap. They are utterly worthless. Pretty much the only games they're successful is either a superior player smashing an inferior one or someone who already had a huge advantage. Fungals beat every Protoss air unit easily with energy to spare. A good Zerg player doesn't bunch his BLs to get vortexed anymore, mothership used to be a gimmick that worked, now it's a hail mary because you realized you got stuck in end game versus a Zerg player.

Naniwa lost that because he essentially reset the game at 15 minutes -- technically neither player had an advantage since both armies disappeared and both were on T3 tech. The problem is Zerg T3 > Protoss T3, easily, any day.
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
November 29 2012 22:41 GMT
#3099
Almost 20 supply differense in favor of Sniper, who is going Mutalisk at the moment. MaSsan is teching to Infestors.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
November 29 2012 22:41 GMT
#3100
On November 30 2012 07:37 Extenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 07:34 doffe wrote:
On November 30 2012 07:33 Extenz wrote:
wtf is naniwa doing? staying on mass stalkers without even a mothership vs brood/infestor

Yeah we can talk balance all day, but lets not pretend Naniwa played this out correctly. Imba or not, infestor BL is terribly boring to watch blizzard


naniwa played perfectly until 4 bases, then he should have gone straight to stargate


He definatly didnt play perfect until 4 bases. What game did you watch?
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