• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:38
CET 17:38
KST 01:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)7Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2996 users

[IEM] Singapore Day 4 - Semifinals & Final - Page 102

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 107 Next
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 25 2012 11:06 GMT
#2021
On November 25 2012 19:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:
[image loading]

https://twitter.com/minsikko/status/272653423374106624/photo/1


[image loading]
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 25 2012 11:10 GMT
#2022
Does Sting win the award for least dominant tournament win ever?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:13:02
November 25 2012 11:12 GMT
#2023
On November 25 2012 19:47 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:46 krutopatkin wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/VQCEp.png

so happy

LOOK AT HIS LACK OF FACE AND EMOTIONS, LOOK AT IT.


damn automaton!

THIS! THIS IS EMOTION:

http://evilgeniuses.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/idra-codea.jpg

look at how happy he is!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Dwelf
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands365 Posts
November 25 2012 11:13 GMT
#2024
The stream just started again is there a complete rebroadcast?
k
Left hand
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland133 Posts
November 25 2012 11:15 GMT
#2025
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
November 25 2012 11:17 GMT
#2026
On November 25 2012 19:28 Prugelhugel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:25 tomatriedes wrote:
Ah Grubby why you do stupid proxy opening? Oh well 2nd place is still pretty good.


1st: This was a pretty good mindgame, Grubby thought Sting would go CC first with a late scout.
2nd: He performed this pretty well and was at least even with his opponent after his zealots got pushed back. The reason he lost was that he didn't expect Sting to tank allin him (I think he thought Sting built a cc after the banshee)


It still put him behind in terms of tech. If he had done a standard 1-gate expand he would have had way more chance to hold a 1-1-1. Yes you can say it's good if your opponent goes CC first but in a final game that's not a good thing to rely on.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
November 25 2012 11:27 GMT
#2027
On November 25 2012 20:13 Dwelf wrote:
The stream just started again is there a complete rebroadcast?


yes, rebroadcast is running.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 25 2012 11:35 GMT
#2028
On November 25 2012 20:03 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:43 Poopi wrote:
Amazing that Sting won. He is just a B-teamer in NSHoseO (or is he in a foreign team now? Don't remember) but he is capable of barely beating the top foreigners!
Gratz.

Don't judge if you are not informed. He is on Western Wolves now.
He was in the TSL semifinals and has beaten a lot of top koreans as well.

Lol you misunderstood my post. I wasn't sarcastic, I'm happy that he won, I would have prefered LucifroN but a terran is more than fine. And it's cool that just a B-teamer can beat this level of competition, that means the gap is still present.
WriterMaru
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2029
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


I think Grubby would have a difficult time getting out of the groups if he was put in HerO's dreamhack group.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 25 2012 11:42 GMT
#2030
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


No...they aren't similar at all. Grubby's run was much easier.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#2031
On November 25 2012 20:35 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:03 00Visor wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:43 Poopi wrote:
Amazing that Sting won. He is just a B-teamer in NSHoseO (or is he in a foreign team now? Don't remember) but he is capable of barely beating the top foreigners!
Gratz.

Don't judge if you are not informed. He is on Western Wolves now.
He was in the TSL semifinals and has beaten a lot of top koreans as well.

Lol you misunderstood my post. I wasn't sarcastic, I'm happy that he won, I would have prefered LucifroN but a terran is more than fine. And it's cool that just a B-teamer can beat this level of competition, that means the gap is still present.


And you misunderstood him, he is trying to tell you that Sting is very good even among koreans and not just a B-teamer any more. So the gap is not as big as you make it sound (for a very small amount of foreigners).
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:47:07
November 25 2012 11:46 GMT
#2032
On November 25 2012 20:42 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


No...they aren't similar at all. Grubby's run was much easier.


I wouldn't consider playing vs. Slivko, Lucifron, Oz, Stardust, MC, Sting much easier than playing against Thorzain, Naniwa, ForGG, Snute, and Monchi. To each his own, I guess.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 25 2012 11:46 GMT
#2033
On November 25 2012 20:41 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


I think Grubby would have a difficult time getting out of the groups if he was put in HerO's dreamhack group.
Considering how they all performed piss poor aside from HerO? Doubt it.
#freeshauni
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:51:12
November 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#2034
Random thought - I wonder where the players/casters/people are staying haha
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#2035
On November 25 2012 20:46 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:42 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


No...they aren't similar at all. Grubby's run was much easier.


I wouldn't consider playing vs. Slivko, Lucifron, Oz, Stardust, MC, Sting much easier than playing against Thorzain, Naniwa, ForGG, Snute, and Monchi. To each his own, I guess.


how about this, hero dominated the entire tournament while grubby struggled his way into the finals.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 25 2012 11:52 GMT
#2036
On November 25 2012 20:46 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:41 vthree wrote:
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


I think Grubby would have a difficult time getting out of the groups if he was put in HerO's dreamhack group.
Considering how they all performed piss poor aside from HerO? Doubt it.


If we put Naniwa on Mc's level, Ret on Slivko's, Nightend ond Stardust's and Thorzain on Lucifron's he might have just topped his group, but it would not have been easy yes.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:53:34
November 25 2012 11:53 GMT
#2037
On November 25 2012 20:50 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:46 Derrida wrote:
On November 25 2012 20:42 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 20:15 Left hand wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:51 GreyKnight wrote:
On November 25 2012 19:46 Mouzone wrote:
With a little time inbetween I think Sting deserved the win more than Grubby did. His overall performance felt more solid than Grubby's. Grubby got through two rounds before the final by the skin of his teeth, but the margins moved a little for the finals and a good run always comes to an end at some point. Anyway, this is really a big step for Grubby though, getting to a major finals, I wonder what his next step will be!


the competition only gets harder and this was the "easiest" tourney for someone of his reputation and hype to take. it's disappointing if you are a fan much more so than say BWC or WCS


Well, if you look at Grubby's run and compare it to, for example, Hero's in Dreamhack there's really not much of a difference in level of difficulty. With luck he could win one of those next year, if he could just consistently keep killing euro-zergs.


No...they aren't similar at all. Grubby's run was much easier.


I wouldn't consider playing vs. Slivko, Lucifron, Oz, Stardust, MC, Sting much easier than playing against Thorzain, Naniwa, ForGG, Snute, and Monchi. To each his own, I guess.


how about this, hero dominated the entire tournament while grubby struggled his way into the finals.


I do agree that HerO is the better player, I just wanted to object to your (in my opinion) gross exaggeration. I think we can do justice to both players without doing injustice to neither player
#1 Grubby Fan.
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
November 25 2012 11:57 GMT
#2038
Now Blizzard will nerf terran because they won this tournament ^^
MMA | MVP|Teaja|Polt|MKP|Byun|Maru|Thorzain|Creator|HasuObs|Socke|Lucifron|Vortix|Mana|Heromarine / PRIME and Mousesports fighting!!
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
November 25 2012 12:03 GMT
#2039
No frontpage article
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
November 25 2012 12:10 GMT
#2040
WTF almost all series 3-2 oO.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Prev 1 100 101 102 103 104 107 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Gabe XPERIONCRAFT
13:00
#3
RotterdaM2348
IndyStarCraft 329
mouzHeroMarine282
Belair 77
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 2486
Lowko600
IndyStarCraft 329
mouzHeroMarine 282
BRAT_OK 109
RushiSC 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1385
ggaemo 1062
Mini 955
EffOrt 661
Stork 562
Hyuk 455
Soma 284
BeSt 278
actioN 210
Mind 199
[ Show more ]
Rush 160
Zeus 143
hero 128
Hyun 123
Barracks 94
Movie 44
ToSsGirL 43
Aegong 42
Yoon 41
Shine 32
Rock 32
soO 29
910 25
GoRush 12
Dota 2
Gorgc4793
qojqva1780
XcaliburYe125
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
byalli382
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor403
Other Games
Grubby3277
singsing2222
DeMusliM296
FrodaN153
XaKoH 143
KnowMe126
QueenE89
ArmadaUGS84
B2W.Neo76
MindelVK16
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick43023
EGCTV755
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 469
Other Games
BasetradeTV38
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Shiphtur349
Upcoming Events
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
17m
AI Arena Tournament
3h 22m
WardiTV Invitational
20h 22m
IPSL
1d 3h
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Wardi Open
1d 19h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
All Star Teams
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W3
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Big Gabe Cup #3
Underdog Cup #3
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.