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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10101 Posts
November 22 2012 19:07 GMT
#1801
"embrace yourself, a ghost nerf is coming"

damn Tzain when win play like this it makes Blizzard nerf us cause with terrans they cant let players to figure it out
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
November 22 2012 19:07 GMT
#1802
1) He had all that gas because he was making Zealots that got destroyed due to the high amount of Medivacs, and had limited Colossus count due to all the Vikings

2) You don't trade efficiently against that army comp of Terran's

3) Nani killed over 60 SCVs, the end of the game showed Thorzain rolling with 10 SCVs and 6+ Orbitals, harassing buildings takes too long and further they can lift

4) HTs seem like the only alternative and that requires a lot of positional play, something Nani doesn't really like to do, his style has almost always been to slug it out
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
November 22 2012 19:07 GMT
#1803
"de" or "du" WTF who cares?

Nani is BM, kinda childish behavior and i thought he had changed after this Quantic-story and all the bad press he had but well, i think he has to learn the hard way ^^
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
November 22 2012 19:07 GMT
#1804
On November 23 2012 04:04 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:03 snam wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:01 LittLeD wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:00 gedatsu wrote:
"it's so fucking imba it's not even true"

nice poop pics.

He actually said "You're so fucking imba its not even true"

I think it was a compliment.

I don't think he would compliment him in swedish, that would not make sense.


He did though.

So why is everyone (even swedish people) telling that he actually balance whined there?
It's not like NaNiwa is a White-Ra from sweden or something, him balance whining is not really a surprise.


The word for "it" and "you" in swedish are rather similar when typed in internet spelling, Nani wrote it and not you, "it" in in this case likely referring to the game.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1805
On November 23 2012 04:04 travis wrote:
It wasn't that bad by naniwa, im not really sure what he was supposed to do. He was building mass archon because he had 8 million gas. What are you supposed to build there to win?


Warp prisms.
Sup
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1806
On November 23 2012 04:04 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:03 dcemuser wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:01 Zealos wrote:
Why could Naniwa do? Any colossus would have been destroyed by the vikings?


He could have made ANY other unit and won by just attacking. Thorzain had no economy.

Naniwa didn't even need to trade cost effectively. He just needed to kill at least A FEW units each time, and he wasn't even doing that.

We all know you can't lose a 200 supply army to kill "a few" units without dying during the remax. Serious suggestions please.


Yeah if Thorzain was willing to ever attack, that would be valid.

Thorzain crushed Naniwa's army like three times and went back home every time.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1807
gratz TLO!!!
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
theBullFrog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States515 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1808
Oh fucking thorzain. Why you gotta remind terrans about ghost?
thebullfrog
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1809
TLO 2-1 Dimaga
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1810
The classic "Harrass the production"

That would be useful if he had an income and/or money to actually spend. Killing barracks doesn't hurt someone with no intention to produce any more units....
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1811
lol do we just get booted from stream in between games???
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NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1812
On November 23 2012 04:06 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:06 NipponBanzai wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:04 travis wrote:
It wasn't that bad by naniwa, im not really sure what he was supposed to do. He was building mass archon because he had 8 million gas. What are you supposed to build there to win?


I feel more zealots and less archons would have been more effective. Also don't get all your HT EMPed. That would be good.


Zealots are extremely bad vs MMM & ghosts late-game. You really need storms. I think he should have tried to get some storms in even though there were a lot of ghosts.


Zealots aren't there to deal damage, that is what storms are for. They have more health then archons so obviously are better at tanking damage. A few archons are okay for the splash but too many and they just evaporate and there was no point in having them in the first place.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9762 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1813
I'm no expert i'm only a gold player, but could more storm have been a better idea than so many archons?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1814
On November 23 2012 04:07 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:04 Poopi wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:03 snam wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:02 Poopi wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:01 LittLeD wrote:
On November 23 2012 04:00 gedatsu wrote:
"it's so fucking imba it's not even true"

nice poop pics.

He actually said "You're so fucking imba its not even true"

I think it was a compliment.

I don't think he would compliment him in swedish, that would not make sense.


He did though.

So why is everyone (even swedish people) telling that he actually balance whined there?
It's not like NaNiwa is a White-Ra from sweden or something, him balance whining is not really a surprise.


The word for "it" and "you" in swedish are rather similar when typed in internet spelling, Nani wrote it and not you, "it" in in this case likely referring to the game.

I know it's it and not you you quoted the wrong guy.
WriterMaru
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
November 22 2012 19:08 GMT
#1815
Thorzain is a good player but his play style makes me fall asleep. Long long games zzzzzzzzzzz.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
November 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#1816
On November 23 2012 04:08 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:04 travis wrote:
It wasn't that bad by naniwa, im not really sure what he was supposed to do. He was building mass archon because he had 8 million gas. What are you supposed to build there to win?


Warp prisms.

Well that would achieve literally less than nothing....
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#1817
Nani should watch Thorzain vs Crank in Lone Star Clash 2 to see how Crank dealt with Thorzain's Ghosts
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#1818
On November 23 2012 04:07 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 04:04 travis wrote:
It wasn't that bad by naniwa, im not really sure what he was supposed to do. He was building mass archon because he had 8 million gas. What are you supposed to build there to win?

Have more observers and spread them out. It was pretty obvious all the time that Thorzain was bent on taking out those observers.


yeah it just doesn't seem reasonable given how thorzain has literally infinite scans he can just spam them
i dunno man some things about this game just piss me off
props to thorzain for taking advantage of them i mean that is the point of the game lol
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#1819
I don't think Nani harrassing production facilities feasible given that T has a bigger army supply and is able to reinforce units to defend bases.

I think only viable option was speedprism-HT play vs. this composition. Because no matter P warps in, 20 ghosts are their antis.
#1 Grubby Fan.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#1820
On November 23 2012 04:07 WeedRa wrote:
"de" or "du" WTF who cares?

It changes the meaning totally, actually.
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