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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 20 2012 11:18 GMT
#1241
On November 20 2012 20:16 polishedturd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Quake #1 most entertaining esport imo

(yes more than BW/SC2)


im like tasteless's dad, quake makes me motion sick

skill cap is unbelievable
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 20 2012 11:18 GMT
#1242
On November 20 2012 20:14 THM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:10 TheBB wrote:
Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (20.10%):
      3-1: 7.32%
      3-2: 12.78%

MarineKing wins (79.90%):
      3-0: 33.83%
      3-1: 28.31%
      3-2: 17.76%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (79.90%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 0-3 MarineKing (33.83%)

Cool stats, but I want to ask once again why the x:0 result is always the one that is most likely, no matter who is playing.

It isn't. It is for Bo3's, but not for longer matches. This is what I posted earlier, when the match started:

Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (34.96%):
      3-0: 7.32%
      3-1: 12.78%
      3-2: 14.86%

MarineKing wins (65.04%):
      3-0: 19.68%
      3-1: 24.70%
      3-2: 20.66%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (65.04%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 1-3 MarineKing (24.70%)

That 3-0 for MarineKing is most likely now just indicates that he's better and he's ahead.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 20 2012 11:19 GMT
#1243
On November 20 2012 20:18 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:16 polishedturd wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Quake #1 most entertaining esport imo

(yes more than BW/SC2)


im like tasteless's dad, quake makes me motion sick

skill cap is unbelievable

You may say it is UNREAL?
Stork[gm]
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 20 2012 11:19 GMT
#1244
On November 20 2012 20:15 KristofferAG wrote:
(T)Ryung v (T)MarineKing
0 - 1


Maps:
Whirlwind
Abyssal City
Cloud Kingdom
Antiga Shipyard
Entombed Valley


5.00
Ryung spawning as the red Terran in the 4 o'clock position.
MarineKing spawning as the blue Terran in the 7 o'clock position.

Ryung going gas first into Barracks.
MarineKing going Barracks first.

Gas started by MKP.
Ryung denied a scout, doesn't see the gas.

Factory started by Ryung.
CC started by marineKing.

Ryung taking second gas, starting the Starport.
Factory started by MKP, getting another gas.
Tech lab on the Factory of Ryung to be switched with the Starport.

MKp getting a reactor on his Barracks.

10.00
Banshee cloak and first Banshee started by Ryung.
Starport started by MKP as well, Hellion moving out across the map.

SCV scout from Ryung makes it into the base of MKP.
MKP getting a Viking.
CC started by Ryung.

MKP getting Engineering Bay.
Turret going down in the main of MKP.
Siege tank production started for both.

Banshee gets 6 kills before it goes down.
Siege tech started by MKP.

Another Banshee int he main, not bale to do much damage before it's taken out.
Ryung gtting more Barracks and siege tech of his own. Still making Banshees.

+1 attack started by MKP.
MKP looking to push out. Vikings go into the main of Ryung, forcing an instant cloak from the banshee.

Two more Barracks for MKP, getting one more Refinery.
Combat Shields and an Engineering Bay for Ryung.

@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 20 2012 11:19 GMT
#1245
On November 20 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:14 THM wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:10 TheBB wrote:
Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (20.10%):
      3-1: 7.32%
      3-2: 12.78%

MarineKing wins (79.90%):
      3-0: 33.83%
      3-1: 28.31%
      3-2: 17.76%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (79.90%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 0-3 MarineKing (33.83%)

Cool stats, but I want to ask once again why the x:0 result is always the one that is most likely, no matter who is playing.

It isn't. It is for Bo3's, but not for longer matches. This is what I posted earlier, when the match started:

Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (34.96%):
      3-0: 7.32%
      3-1: 12.78%
      3-2: 14.86%

MarineKing wins (65.04%):
      3-0: 19.68%
      3-1: 24.70%
      3-2: 20.66%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (65.04%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 1-3 MarineKing (24.70%)

That 3-0 for MarineKing is most likely now just indicates that he's better and he's ahead.

I'd like to see your program at work if this retarded idea was implemented
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383198
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 11:19:46
November 20 2012 11:19 GMT
#1246
omg MKP utilizing terrain!!! what is this madness
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
November 20 2012 11:19 GMT
#1247
Since I started playing the HOTS beta, every pro game I watch "Why is no one making X!!!, Oh my dumb" Where X is a HOTS unit .
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 20 2012 11:19 GMT
#1248
On November 20 2012 20:18 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:16 polishedturd wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Quake #1 most entertaining esport imo

(yes more than BW/SC2)


im like tasteless's dad, quake makes me motion sick

skill cap is unbelievable


is competitive quake 3 still a thing? I might check it out at dreamhack, I think they had it last year.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
November 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#1249
On November 20 2012 20:19 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:18 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:16 polishedturd wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Quake #1 most entertaining esport imo

(yes more than BW/SC2)


im like tasteless's dad, quake makes me motion sick

skill cap is unbelievable

You may say it is UNREAL?


...

...


( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
November 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#1250
Why would you let that rax die -.-
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
November 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#1251
What are the Prime players getting for their sweaty hands? I need that for my own sweaty hands asap.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#1252
lol mvp the gslcockblocker
yo
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
November 20 2012 11:20 GMT
#1253
lol "before mvp kills him"
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
November 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#1254
On November 20 2012 20:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:18 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:16 polishedturd wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Quake #1 most entertaining esport imo

(yes more than BW/SC2)


im like tasteless's dad, quake makes me motion sick

skill cap is unbelievable


is competitive quake 3 still a thing? I might check it out at dreamhack, I think they had it last year.


They play Quake live which is basically Quake 3 but for free played in a webbrowser. You can go play it if you want to try it. It's fun
리노크 👑
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 11:25:17
November 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#1255
On November 20 2012 20:14 THM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:10 TheBB wrote:
Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (20.10%):
      3-1: 7.32%
      3-2: 12.78%

MarineKing wins (79.90%):
      3-0: 33.83%
      3-1: 28.31%
      3-2: 17.76%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (79.90%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 0-3 MarineKing (33.83%)


Cool stats, but I want to ask once again why the x:0 result is always the one that is most likely, no matter who is playing.



Not done probability maths in many years so feel free to correct if I've messed up somewhere:
If two players are equally strong probability is 50-50. Therefore, for a Best of 3:
P (2-0) = 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25
P (0-2) = 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25
P (2-1) = 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.125

There are four ways to produce a 2-1 either way (winning first, losing; winning second, losing; winning first, winning, winning second, winning).

If one player has already won a game the probabilities change:
P (2-0) = 0.5
P (2-1) = 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25
P (1-2) = 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25
P (0-2) = 0 (Already won one)


Edit: Note I'm not sure how this works for a longer series. Don't have time to do the numbers now.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#1256
On November 20 2012 20:19 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:14 THM wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:10 TheBB wrote:
Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (20.10%):
      3-1: 7.32%
      3-2: 12.78%

MarineKing wins (79.90%):
      3-0: 33.83%
      3-1: 28.31%
      3-2: 17.76%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (79.90%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 0-3 MarineKing (33.83%)

Cool stats, but I want to ask once again why the x:0 result is always the one that is most likely, no matter who is playing.

It isn't. It is for Bo3's, but not for longer matches. This is what I posted earlier, when the match started:

Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (34.96%):
      3-0: 7.32%
      3-1: 12.78%
      3-2: 14.86%

MarineKing wins (65.04%):
      3-0: 19.68%
      3-1: 24.70%
      3-2: 20.66%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (65.04%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 1-3 MarineKing (24.70%)

That 3-0 for MarineKing is most likely now just indicates that he's better and he's ahead.

I'd like to see your program at work if this retarded idea was implemented
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383198


Dude, that's literally the best idea I've red ever.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 11:21:55
November 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#1257
Oh wow mkp not got combat shield?

just started*
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 20 2012 11:21 GMT
#1258
On November 20 2012 20:19 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:18 TheBB wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:14 THM wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:10 TheBB wrote:
Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (20.10%):
      3-1: 7.32%
      3-2: 12.78%

MarineKing wins (79.90%):
      3-0: 33.83%
      3-1: 28.31%
      3-2: 17.76%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (79.90%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 0-3 MarineKing (33.83%)

Cool stats, but I want to ask once again why the x:0 result is always the one that is most likely, no matter who is playing.

It isn't. It is for Bo3's, but not for longer matches. This is what I posted earlier, when the match started:

Ryung vs. MarineKing

Ryung wins (34.96%):
      3-0: 7.32%
      3-1: 12.78%
      3-2: 14.86%

MarineKing wins (65.04%):
      3-0: 19.68%
      3-1: 24.70%
      3-2: 20.66%

Most likely winner: MarineKing (65.04%)
Most likely outcome: Ryung 1-3 MarineKing (24.70%)

That 3-0 for MarineKing is most likely now just indicates that he's better and he's ahead.

I'd like to see your program at work if this retarded idea was implemented
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383198

Well that would be hard to model.

I wanted to simulate a whole GSL, too, but there's no way to model the group selection ceremony.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 20 2012 11:22 GMT
#1259
dat banshee, dat STIM lol
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
November 20 2012 11:22 GMT
#1260
That post-kill stim ^^
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
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