• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:30
CEST 13:30
KST 20:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists12[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail0MaNa leaves Team Liquid19
StarCraft 2
General
Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Korean KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [ASL21] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1855 users

ALL IPL5 Information - Page 12

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
410 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 21 Next All
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
November 16 2012 14:36 GMT
#221
On November 16 2012 21:45 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 18:58 Zax19 wrote:
On November 16 2012 13:45 jobber123rd wrote:
On November 16 2012 05:44 Zax19 wrote:
Qxc goes to WCG in China and Ganzi takes his place? Well played Complexity!

On November 16 2012 01:48 csn_JohnClark wrote:
For those that are complaining about the finals format of a bo5 to bo3. This is something that I proposed at LSC2 for timing issues..and does offer a fair format for both the winner and loser.

No format is perfect... but for a matter of timing and to avoid any sort of 'extended series'.. this format does work.

Ideally, a second bo5 is a great choice... but timing and fatigue play a major role in the decision to run a possible 2nd bo5 series.

Once the loser wins the first bo5.. .essentially, the players are tied in number of loses and any format after that is fair and even. A single bo3 to determine the champion creates the same results (statistically) as a single bo5... but the time required is almost cut in half. I personally see the final bo3 as an 'overtime' after things have been evened up between the 2 players.

My 2.5 cents...

I see no reason to penalise the player from the shadow bracket because he already has to play more matches to get there. Simple Bo7 starting at 0:0 is fine.


Then you'd throw be throwing away the double-elimination aspect of the tournament at the final stage, giving no reward to the player who made it there without losing a match.

The upper bracket player already has an advantage – he had to play less games. That’s his advantage. So unless you want to start taking into account things like W/L up till that point or giving a player who just dropped into the shadow bracket an advantage 1:0 in his first Bo3 because he got farther than his opponent (which would be ridiculous) there is no reason to change the rules in the final series.


That's a matter of perspective, then; it could just as easily be said that having the WB player eliminated by losing a single straight-up series (unlike everyone else in the tournament) is changing the rules (or at least, changing the format).

I absolutely forgot about the extra chance to lose. Hm, I’m not sure what the value of a chance to win vs. a chance to lose is. It would depend on how early a player loses a series - considering the total amount of extra Bo3, one more Bo3 in the finals is probably fair to the upper bracket player. As you pointed out, we were looking at it from a different perspective and thank you for explaining the reason for the final Bo3.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
Acer.ParanOid
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 15:38:01
November 16 2012 15:30 GMT
#222
On November 16 2012 22:42 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 18:16 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:58 StarVe wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I'm confused on Nerchio's status on IPL5. Is he going or not?

Presumably he qualified again through the EU World Championship bracket, don't know how he could qualify twice otherwise, so I assume he'll go (I'd assume that anyway, I've heard him talk in interviews about going to IPL, even though that wasn't recently) and play in both IPL 5 and the showmatches against GSL players.

If he still drops out, I haven't said anything, possible he doesn't want to go since his friend Paranoid isn't going for whatever reason. Anyway, there's still Scarlett from Acer who's most likely going to be there, I'm pretty sure he'll come.


His flight is booked, and the only thing missing about Nerchios trip is a visa. That should be done within the next days when hes back from China .

Yay, thanks for posting! Why aren't you going, by the way? You don't have time or Acer doesn't want to fly you out?

We decided that for the better good it will be better for me to participate in the WCG finals, which unfortunately are at the same time as IPL .
publicenemy~
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#223
On November 17 2012 00:30 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 22:42 StarVe wrote:
On November 16 2012 18:16 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:58 StarVe wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I'm confused on Nerchio's status on IPL5. Is he going or not?

Presumably he qualified again through the EU World Championship bracket, don't know how he could qualify twice otherwise, so I assume he'll go (I'd assume that anyway, I've heard him talk in interviews about going to IPL, even though that wasn't recently) and play in both IPL 5 and the showmatches against GSL players.

If he still drops out, I haven't said anything, possible he doesn't want to go since his friend Paranoid isn't going for whatever reason. Anyway, there's still Scarlett from Acer who's most likely going to be there, I'm pretty sure he'll come.


His flight is booked, and the only thing missing about Nerchios trip is a visa. That should be done within the next days when hes back from China .

Yay, thanks for posting! Why aren't you going, by the way? You don't have time or Acer doesn't want to fly you out?

We decided that for the better good it will be better for me to participate in the WCG finals, which unfortunately are at the same time as IPL .

Ah, you go as Nerchio's replacement, lol. Good luck, hope you do well, your play has been looking good recently.
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
November 16 2012 18:07 GMT
#224
Player Update:

-MaNa for personal reasons
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 22:42:03
November 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#225
--- Nuked ---
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
November 16 2012 22:45 GMT
#226
On November 17 2012 03:07 IGNProLeague wrote:
Player Update:

-MaNa for personal reasons


Damn, the ESWC Champion would've been a nice asset, but this lineup is so stacked it's pretty hard to complain.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
November 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#227
Time zones have now been added to the OP.
EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
November 17 2012 00:23 GMT
#228
On November 15 2012 10:12 TigerKarl wrote:
I don't understand how tournaments can still think that inviting 72 players is a good idea. Costs are exploding and there's still not more than 20 players who can win that thing. Most of those players get barely any media coverage and their stories usually don't give much more than telling who they've beaten. Everybody wants E-Sports to grow, but these assembly line tournaments are just producing an incredible amount of games with little to no meaning, instead of producing and hyping more meaningful matches. Prize money could be at least double that size, and therefore generate a lot more attention and hype than lots of B and C level players.


just cause they're invited doesn't mean that all 72 have their expenses covered... it just means theres no open bracket and all players qualified through someone unless hes a replacement for someone who can't attend...

Ohter than that, cool to see Major added to the list. Gonna be a sick tourney
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
November 17 2012 14:19 GMT
#229
wow wow wow
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
November 17 2012 15:39 GMT
#230
On November 17 2012 09:23 EliteSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:12 TigerKarl wrote:
I don't understand how tournaments can still think that inviting 72 players is a good idea. Costs are exploding and there's still not more than 20 players who can win that thing. Most of those players get barely any media coverage and their stories usually don't give much more than telling who they've beaten. Everybody wants E-Sports to grow, but these assembly line tournaments are just producing an incredible amount of games with little to no meaning, instead of producing and hyping more meaningful matches. Prize money could be at least double that size, and therefore generate a lot more attention and hype than lots of B and C level players.


just cause they're invited doesn't mean that all 72 have their expenses covered... it just means theres no open bracket and all players qualified through someone unless hes a replacement for someone who can't attend...

Ohter than that, cool to see Major added to the list. Gonna be a sick tourney


Also, note that the original plan was to have 40 players (with eight getting expenses paid), but the satellite qualifiers for EU and (especially) NA happened at unfortunate times (weekends that would conflict with major offline tournaments), so they added more players and another round to the tournament.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
tabeatz
Profile Joined October 2012
United States83 Posts
November 17 2012 17:28 GMT
#231
So many good players! It's overwhelming!
For the love of the game
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
November 17 2012 18:14 GMT
#232
Sick.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
November 17 2012 18:41 GMT
#233
IPL always seems to create the hardest tournaments to win lol. I will tune in to watch for sure.
Scholera
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States166 Posts
November 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#234
On November 16 2012 05:44 Zax19 wrote:
Qxc goes to WCG in China and Ganzi takes his place? Well played Complexity!

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 01:48 csn_JohnClark wrote:
For those that are complaining about the finals format of a bo5 to bo3. This is something that I proposed at LSC2 for timing issues..and does offer a fair format for both the winner and loser.

No format is perfect... but for a matter of timing and to avoid any sort of 'extended series'.. this format does work.

Ideally, a second bo5 is a great choice... but timing and fatigue play a major role in the decision to run a possible 2nd bo5 series.

Once the loser wins the first bo5.. .essentially, the players are tied in number of loses and any format after that is fair and even. A single bo3 to determine the champion creates the same results (statistically) as a single bo5... but the time required is almost cut in half. I personally see the final bo3 as an 'overtime' after things have been evened up between the 2 players.

My 2.5 cents...

I see no reason to penalise the player from the shadow bracket because he already has to play more matches to get there. Simple Bo7 starting at 0:0 is fine.


Wait...

so a player can lose 2-0 and then win a bo5 3-2 and instantly be on even ground from the losers bracket? no...
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 23:02:48
November 17 2012 23:02 GMT
#235
I'm relieved day9 is not casting. Don't have to hear someone use the ultimate nonword "play" five times in every twenty word utterance.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
November 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#236
Now this is a tournament that REALLY represents the best players in the world. Should replace WCS bracket with this one

Good caster line-up as well. Remove TB and Tasteless and replace with Wolf + Khaldor and it'd be just about perfect!
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
November 18 2012 11:38 GMT
#237
IPL, if you have a free spot still, you should invite the Battle.net World Championship winner + Show Spoiler +
Parting
. Would make a great tournament even better.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 18 2012 12:23 GMT
#238
On November 18 2012 20:38 Kiyo. wrote:
IPL, if you have a free spot still, you should invite the Battle.net World Championship winner + Show Spoiler +
Parting
. Would make a great tournament even better.


Parting is going to WCG 2012, which is happening at the same time as IPL5.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 18 2012 15:31 GMT
#239
On November 16 2012 03:19 IGNProLeague wrote:
Updates:

+MaJoR
+ByuL
+YoDa
-Axslav


Ahh, so IM decided to send YoDa. I suspected they might pick NesTea after his performance the last time, but YoDa is a great choice. In fact I'd say I think it's probably the best choice.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17455 Posts
November 19 2012 15:01 GMT
#240
Its great that organizations like IGN.com are trying to get into eSports.

BUT, hosting live events is not their forte. They are great a making video game media web content.
In his big interview David Ting admitted right away it was a lot of "new code" and to expect problems.

At least, its free.

Hopefully, the new "secret" console titles are paying IGN a lot of cash to put on this event.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group A
WardiTV398
Rex84
TKL 72
IndyStarCraft 71
3DClanTV 44
EnkiAlexander 11
Liquipedia
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 90
CranKy Ducklings38
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko210
OGKoka 201
BRAT_OK 85
Rex 84
TKL 72
IndyStarCraft 71
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17086
Calm 3902
Horang2 1235
Bisu 1097
Jaedong 842
firebathero 842
Mini 403
Stork 360
Light 234
actioN 207
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 197
Zeus 190
Soma 189
Larva 176
EffOrt 123
Last 120
Pusan 109
Hyun 108
Leta 105
ggaemo 94
ToSsGirL 84
ZerO 77
Rush 70
Sharp 61
sorry 47
hero 33
Backho 33
Shinee 26
JYJ 24
Sea.KH 22
Hm[arnc] 22
soO 21
Nal_rA 19
yabsab 18
GoRush 16
Sacsri 14
zelot 14
Barracks 14
IntoTheRainbow 13
SilentControl 12
Bale 11
Noble 9
Icarus 2
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss843
x6flipin322
allub191
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King122
Other Games
singsing1546
Liquid`RaSZi852
B2W.Neo700
crisheroes263
DeMusliM142
Sick33
QueenE25
Trikslyr17
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1138
Counter-Strike
PGL148
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1196
• TFBlade925
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
12h 30m
Escore
22h 30m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
23h 30m
OSC
1d 3h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 15h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 23h
IPSL
2 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
2 days
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
BSL
3 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
3 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-15
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.