• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:42
CEST 03:42
KST 10:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)7Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format13[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) BGE Stara Zagora to be held again in June 2025
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Etiquete rules in Asl? Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7413 users

ALL IPL5 Information - Page 11

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
410 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 21 Next All
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
November 15 2012 22:43 GMT
#201
Looks at the players list........ thats alot of great players

scrolls down


looks at the casters list .... thats alot of great casters.



Going to be a great winter of esports
rG
mike7603
Profile Joined November 2012
United States37 Posts
November 15 2012 22:52 GMT
#202
I hope illusion Replacement for Axslav .
illusion fan
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
November 15 2012 23:07 GMT
#203
Damn this looks awesome.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 15 2012 23:15 GMT
#204
Will replays be released for the event?
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
November 16 2012 00:09 GMT
#205
New Player Addition:

+Ret
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 00:13:04
November 16 2012 00:12 GMT
#206
On November 16 2012 09:09 IGNProLeague wrote:
New Player Addition:

+Ret


idk if it really matters but I suggest putting who they're replacing in posts like these, I mean its easy enough to go back to the first page but still its convenient
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 16 2012 00:37 GMT
#207
Haha, looking at the rate these replacements are coming up, by now you're probably being considered as a replacement as long as you ever signed up for a European satellite, regardless if you even showed up or not.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
November 16 2012 00:41 GMT
#208
Yoda, Nestea,Mvp, Seed. Good lineup for IM here!
esports
FalconPunch
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States134 Posts
November 16 2012 00:42 GMT
#209
I'm sorry if it's been asked.. is there a price to attend IPL/GSL?
You only live twice.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 16 2012 00:48 GMT
#210
On November 16 2012 09:41 Luepert wrote:
Yoda, Nestea,Mvp, Seed. Good lineup for IM here!


I don't think NesTea is going?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32751 Posts
November 16 2012 00:50 GMT
#211
I'm confused on Nerchio's status on IPL5. Is he going or not?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 00:59:29
November 16 2012 00:58 GMT
#212
On November 16 2012 09:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I'm confused on Nerchio's status on IPL5. Is he going or not?

Presumably he qualified again through the EU World Championship bracket, don't know how he could qualify twice otherwise, so I assume he'll go (I'd assume that anyway, I've heard him talk in interviews about going to IPL, even though that wasn't recently) and play in both IPL 5 and the showmatches against GSL players.

If he still drops out, I haven't said anything, possible he doesn't want to go since his friend Paranoid isn't going for whatever reason. Anyway, there's still Scarlett from Acer who's most likely going to be there, I'm pretty sure he'll come.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
November 16 2012 01:05 GMT
#213
On November 16 2012 09:48 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 09:41 Luepert wrote:
Yoda, Nestea,Mvp, Seed. Good lineup for IM here!


I don't think NesTea is going?


Aww dang i missed that, he did really well at the last one, actually only a few games from winning.
esports
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
November 16 2012 04:26 GMT
#214
I think those last four names (GSL Ro4 Player) are gonna smash through this.

Looking forward to a great tournament.

Lots of big moves being announced lately.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
November 16 2012 04:45 GMT
#215
On November 16 2012 05:44 Zax19 wrote:
Qxc goes to WCG in China and Ganzi takes his place? Well played Complexity!

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 01:48 csn_JohnClark wrote:
For those that are complaining about the finals format of a bo5 to bo3. This is something that I proposed at LSC2 for timing issues..and does offer a fair format for both the winner and loser.

No format is perfect... but for a matter of timing and to avoid any sort of 'extended series'.. this format does work.

Ideally, a second bo5 is a great choice... but timing and fatigue play a major role in the decision to run a possible 2nd bo5 series.

Once the loser wins the first bo5.. .essentially, the players are tied in number of loses and any format after that is fair and even. A single bo3 to determine the champion creates the same results (statistically) as a single bo5... but the time required is almost cut in half. I personally see the final bo3 as an 'overtime' after things have been evened up between the 2 players.

My 2.5 cents...

I see no reason to penalise the player from the shadow bracket because he already has to play more matches to get there. Simple Bo7 starting at 0:0 is fine.


Then you'd throw be throwing away the double-elimination aspect of the tournament at the final stage, giving no reward to the player who made it there without losing a match. IMO that's a bit harsh, especially in a situation where the WB player just beat the LB player in the WB final, and the difference in matches played is just one. However, in a tournament in which all other matches are Bo3 and the final would be Bo7, it balances out somewhat because someone has to win 4 games instead of 2.

The WB player starting at 1:0 in a Bo7 would give a small equity advantage/reward in the final series, and it's even better for timing (if that's a concern) than Bo5->Bo3 (3-6 games instead of 3-8 games), but you lose the "two series" approach that is consistent with the double-elimination format of the rest of the tournament (which seems to be significant, judging by responses to my previous post).

Below is a list of WB player equity with various series formats (assuming coinflip games), for comparison purposes. I compiled it for a topic about MLG, which is why the extended series stuff is in there. Entries relevant to this line of discussion are in bold.

  • Extended Bo7 rematch starting from 2-0: 81.25% -- Equivalent to the originally announced IPL 5 format. It doesn't matter how the 2-0 advantage is earned; it's still a Bo7 starting at 2-0.
  • Extended Bo9 rematch starting from 2-0: 77.34375%
  • True double elimination Bo3 or Bo5 (LB player must win two series): 75% -- Same as the current IPL 5 format (for equity purposes, it doesn't matter that the series lengths are different).
  • Extended Bo7 rematch starting from 2-1: 68.75%
  • Extended Bo9 rematch starting from 2-1: 65.625%
  • Bo7 starting from 1-0: 65.625% -- What I'd like to see.
  • Initial Bo3 into extended Bo7 (LB player must win both series): 62.5%
  • Initial Bo5 into extended Bo9 (LB player must win both series): 60.7421875%
  • [And of course, a single BoX from 0-0 would be 50%.] -- What you'd like to see.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
brieN
Profile Joined November 2011
United States158 Posts
November 16 2012 06:50 GMT
#216
still dont like how koreans are just staying in europe/america and taking the qualifiers, yes they may be better but it would be like people in the olympics able to represent other countries
check yo self befo yo wreck yo self
Acer.ParanOid
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland133 Posts
November 16 2012 09:16 GMT
#217
On November 16 2012 09:58 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 09:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I'm confused on Nerchio's status on IPL5. Is he going or not?

Presumably he qualified again through the EU World Championship bracket, don't know how he could qualify twice otherwise, so I assume he'll go (I'd assume that anyway, I've heard him talk in interviews about going to IPL, even though that wasn't recently) and play in both IPL 5 and the showmatches against GSL players.

If he still drops out, I haven't said anything, possible he doesn't want to go since his friend Paranoid isn't going for whatever reason. Anyway, there's still Scarlett from Acer who's most likely going to be there, I'm pretty sure he'll come.


His flight is booked, and the only thing missing about Nerchios trip is a visa. That should be done within the next days when hes back from China .
publicenemy~
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
November 16 2012 09:58 GMT
#218
On November 16 2012 13:45 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 05:44 Zax19 wrote:
Qxc goes to WCG in China and Ganzi takes his place? Well played Complexity!

On November 16 2012 01:48 csn_JohnClark wrote:
For those that are complaining about the finals format of a bo5 to bo3. This is something that I proposed at LSC2 for timing issues..and does offer a fair format for both the winner and loser.

No format is perfect... but for a matter of timing and to avoid any sort of 'extended series'.. this format does work.

Ideally, a second bo5 is a great choice... but timing and fatigue play a major role in the decision to run a possible 2nd bo5 series.

Once the loser wins the first bo5.. .essentially, the players are tied in number of loses and any format after that is fair and even. A single bo3 to determine the champion creates the same results (statistically) as a single bo5... but the time required is almost cut in half. I personally see the final bo3 as an 'overtime' after things have been evened up between the 2 players.

My 2.5 cents...

I see no reason to penalise the player from the shadow bracket because he already has to play more matches to get there. Simple Bo7 starting at 0:0 is fine.


Then you'd throw be throwing away the double-elimination aspect of the tournament at the final stage, giving no reward to the player who made it there without losing a match.

The upper bracket player already has an advantage – he had to play less games. That’s his advantage. So unless you want to start taking into account things like W/L up till that point or giving a player who just dropped into the shadow bracket an advantage 1:0 in his first Bo3 because he got farther than his opponent (which would be ridiculous) there is no reason to change the rules in the final series. And while we’re at it, Sundance gets it, yet we still have extended series… what the hell?
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
November 16 2012 12:45 GMT
#219
On November 16 2012 18:58 Zax19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 13:45 jobber123rd wrote:
On November 16 2012 05:44 Zax19 wrote:
Qxc goes to WCG in China and Ganzi takes his place? Well played Complexity!

On November 16 2012 01:48 csn_JohnClark wrote:
For those that are complaining about the finals format of a bo5 to bo3. This is something that I proposed at LSC2 for timing issues..and does offer a fair format for both the winner and loser.

No format is perfect... but for a matter of timing and to avoid any sort of 'extended series'.. this format does work.

Ideally, a second bo5 is a great choice... but timing and fatigue play a major role in the decision to run a possible 2nd bo5 series.

Once the loser wins the first bo5.. .essentially, the players are tied in number of loses and any format after that is fair and even. A single bo3 to determine the champion creates the same results (statistically) as a single bo5... but the time required is almost cut in half. I personally see the final bo3 as an 'overtime' after things have been evened up between the 2 players.

My 2.5 cents...

I see no reason to penalise the player from the shadow bracket because he already has to play more matches to get there. Simple Bo7 starting at 0:0 is fine.


Then you'd throw be throwing away the double-elimination aspect of the tournament at the final stage, giving no reward to the player who made it there without losing a match.

The upper bracket player already has an advantage – he had to play less games. That’s his advantage. So unless you want to start taking into account things like W/L up till that point or giving a player who just dropped into the shadow bracket an advantage 1:0 in his first Bo3 because he got farther than his opponent (which would be ridiculous) there is no reason to change the rules in the final series.


That's a matter of perspective, then; it could just as easily be said that having the WB player eliminated by losing a single straight-up series (unlike everyone else in the tournament) is changing the rules (or at least, changing the format).

And while we’re at it, Sundance gets it, yet we still have extended series… what the hell?


There's a small, but important difference in the MLG Championship Bracket format, though; it's two separate 20-player "double-elimination" brackets that feed into a single final series. There's still a WB advantage in each bracket; it's just that it's realized in the "semifinals" of the tournament (extended series rules and all), and the eventual finalists will not have faced each other previously in the Championship Bracket. Either one of them could have 1 or 0 match losses in their respective Champ bracket, but in this case, it doesn't matter, as they played completely different "tournaments" that had distinct player pools to get there (considering Championship stage only).

As for them retaining extended series; it's clear that they still don't want to have a situation where A eliminates B from the tournament having won fewer games head-to-head. They've bent to community pressure by getting rid of match history carryover across tournament stages, but I doubt they'll ever drop it completely, at least as long as the current management is in place. Personally, I'd like to see the match history stuff gone, but with them always using the 0-0 Bo3 into extended Bo7 (or Bo5 into Bo9) that they currently do when the Championship Semifinal (or Group Final) is not a rematch. (This would not affect Championship Finals.) It's one of the mildest WB advantages you can give; the WB player has more "chances", but must still win the most games during the round to advance.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 13:42:18
November 16 2012 13:42 GMT
#220
On November 16 2012 18:16 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 09:58 StarVe wrote:
On November 16 2012 09:50 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I'm confused on Nerchio's status on IPL5. Is he going or not?

Presumably he qualified again through the EU World Championship bracket, don't know how he could qualify twice otherwise, so I assume he'll go (I'd assume that anyway, I've heard him talk in interviews about going to IPL, even though that wasn't recently) and play in both IPL 5 and the showmatches against GSL players.

If he still drops out, I haven't said anything, possible he doesn't want to go since his friend Paranoid isn't going for whatever reason. Anyway, there's still Scarlett from Acer who's most likely going to be there, I'm pretty sure he'll come.


His flight is booked, and the only thing missing about Nerchios trip is a visa. That should be done within the next days when hes back from China .

Yay, thanks for posting! Why aren't you going, by the way? You don't have time or Acer doesn't want to fly you out?
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft602
WinterStarcraft188
SpeCial 157
RuFF_SC2 91
Nina 64
Ketroc 36
CosmosSc2 30
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 32
Dota 2
Trikslyr58
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
summit1g5754
Fnx 216
adren_tv130
minikerr30
Other Games
gofns17599
tarik_tv10125
C9.Mang0415
JimRising 326
Maynarde161
XaKoH 104
ViBE85
NeuroSwarm74
Temp031
JuggernautJason18
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2057
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 113
• davetesta29
• EnkiAlexander 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1290
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 18m
CrankTV Team League
9h 18m
WardiTV Qualifier
10h 18m
Epic.LAN
11h 18m
Big Brain Bouts
14h 18m
SHIN vs Elazer
Percival vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Lambo
Replay Cast
22h 18m
RSL Revival
1d 7h
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
Epic.LAN
1d 11h
IPSL
1d 14h
Dragon vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.