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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 10 2012 12:42 GMT
#1061
On November 10 2012 20:30 rj rl wrote:
GSL has a crap load of inertion in it's format, if it were not granting so much slots depending on past results (top code S stays top code S, worst code S goes into code A etc.) we would see a vastly different situation, i think 50\50 kespa\esf already, and 70\30 in a couple of months, simply because in qualifiers no one's guaranteed to go through except for top tier players. Bisu failed badly, but i can easily imagine half of actual code s sharing his fate to all kinds of 11\11 and 6 pool.

The format is changed so you can fall off from Code S to Code B in a single season if you don't belong (see Jaedong). There isn't that much of inertion left anymore (I'd actually say it's spot on, because you want to have some kind of security net guarding against a single bad day). Kespa players are already receiving a lot of welfare A+S spots and have their better players qualify. Of course you can have bad luck in your brackets, but to be honest most of the time if you can't make it through qualifiers you just don't belong.
The 50/50 and 70/30 numbers might be what you wished for, but are not reflective of actual skill numbers, sorry.
Get off my lawn, young punks
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
November 10 2012 12:42 GMT
#1062
I wanted to just talk about my 2 matches against Crazy Hydra. Mind you I met him after and he was super nice and came and spoke to our group of foreigners.

Game 1 I went for the standard Immotal Sentry all-in, It was close but Hydra played super greedy and went pool-hatch-hatch-hatch. Yeah and I didn't scout the 4th until super late, at that point though it was too late, and he had infestors. Although I did kill a lot and had good forcefields. It just wasn't enough.

Game 2 was really close actually. He went for the same build and I went for the Naniwa style 1 gate expo (never used it before today). And I was able to hold off a lot fo aggression from him, I had good forcefields, and caught like 2-3 infestors. I went for Colo and the standard deathball army. He eventually got tired and went all-in with like 6-7 corrupters and a ton of ling/infestor. He fungled my stalkers and I wasn't able to move to defend my colo (he hid his corrupters) so he took 2 out, I did hold barely, but his 2nd wave was just a little too strong for me.

all in all they were good games. Crazy-Hydra is really good and he has some beastly macro. I'm not ashamed that I lost, and people shouldn't bash me based on my results in thie qualifer.

I've proved time and time again that I'm good enough to be here in Korea, but Code A qualifers are tough, and anyone that says different is lying to themselves. I was nervous and had tears in my eyes when I lost. I shouldn't have to prove myself to anyone, let alone reddit. I've practiced 10 hours a day since I came to Korea and worked my ass off to prove to the community that I am good, but no matter how well I do, people will always seek to break you down. They will take things out of context or out of time frame. People assume that I wanted to be famous here in Korea. Thats not what I wanted. I just wanted people to cheer for me. I see so many people each time in these threads say "who is radrel?" and it does bother me a little bit. I mean it would bother a lot of people. I wanted people to see my name and not ask "who is he?". Its not unfair to me. And I never said it was unfair. I see so many foreigners who come to Korea and try their best, but the community overlooks them. I've seen it a number of times. Plato was another good example of this, he had no press on coming to Korea, and lost in his first qualifers and then quit sc2 that evening. And he had results, he was the 2nd best player in Israel. Although it does happen. It is heartbreaking to see it happen so often. and Koreans are no different, people were bashing my friend Salmosa because he almost got into code A. Do people really not like him so much that he warrents people hating on him. Its not just about cheering for your favorites, but bashing people for no reason it awful.



Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


Anyways I'm finished playing full-time, I do plan on staying in Korea, I have a meeting tomorrow in revelence to that. I will be at Code A qualifers doing LR'ing when I can as well.

thanks everyone and have a wonderful morning/evening/afternoon.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
November 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#1063
Nice read, I was pretty sad when I saw your draw!
It was really nice to meet you in June, I hope your next plans will be as exciting as you hope!

Good luck Radrel
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
November 10 2012 12:49 GMT
#1064
there r a decent amount of kespa player advanced simply because of their large number of kespa players. The majority of kespa is similar/worse than gsl code b level
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 10 2012 12:52 GMT
#1065
On November 10 2012 21:49 Baroninthetree wrote:
there r a decent amount of kespa player advanced simply because of their large number of kespa players. The majority of kespa is similar/worse than gsl code b level


...There are more non-Kespa players than Kespa players. What exactly are you basing "The majority of kespa is similar/worse than gsl code b level" on?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
November 10 2012 12:56 GMT
#1066
On November 10 2012 21:52 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 21:49 Baroninthetree wrote:
there r a decent amount of kespa player advanced simply because of their large number of kespa players. The majority of kespa is similar/worse than gsl code b level


...There are more non-Kespa players than Kespa players. What exactly are you basing "The majority of kespa is similar/worse than gsl code b level" on?

My bad I should say esf code b players exclude non esf pro and amateur
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 10 2012 12:58 GMT
#1067
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I wanted to just talk about my 2 matches against Crazy Hydra. Mind you I met him after and he was super nice and came and spoke to our group of foreigners.

Game 1 I went for the standard Immotal Sentry all-in, It was close but Hydra played super greedy and went pool-hatch-hatch-hatch. Yeah and I didn't scout the 4th until super late, at that point though it was too late, and he had infestors. Although I did kill a lot and had good forcefields. It just wasn't enough.

Game 2 was really close actually. He went for the same build and I went for the Naniwa style 1 gate expo (never used it before today). And I was able to hold off a lot fo aggression from him, I had good forcefields, and caught like 2-3 infestors. I went for Colo and the standard deathball army. He eventually got tired and went all-in with like 6-7 corrupters and a ton of ling/infestor. He fungled my stalkers and I wasn't able to move to defend my colo (he hid his corrupters) so he took 2 out, I did hold barely, but his 2nd wave was just a little too strong for me.

all in all they were good games. Crazy-Hydra is really good and he has some beastly macro. I'm not ashamed that I lost, and people shouldn't bash me based on my results in thie qualifer.

I've proved time and time again that I'm good enough to be here in Korea, but Code A qualifers are tough, and anyone that says different is lying to themselves. I was nervous and had tears in my eyes when I lost. I shouldn't have to prove myself to anyone, let alone reddit. I've practiced 10 hours a day since I came to Korea and worked my ass off to prove to the community that I am good, but no matter how well I do, people will always seek to break you down. They will take things out of context or out of time frame. People assume that I wanted to be famous here in Korea. Thats not what I wanted. I just wanted people to cheer for me. I see so many people each time in these threads say "who is radrel?" and it does bother me a little bit. I mean it would bother a lot of people. I wanted people to see my name and not ask "who is he?". Its not unfair to me. And I never said it was unfair. I see so many foreigners who come to Korea and try their best, but the community overlooks them. I've seen it a number of times. Plato was another good example of this, he had no press on coming to Korea, and lost in his first qualifers and then quit sc2 that evening. And he had results, he was the 2nd best player in Israel. Although it does happen. It is heartbreaking to see it happen so often. and Koreans are no different, people were bashing my friend Salmosa because he almost got into code A. Do people really not like him so much that he warrents people hating on him. Its not just about cheering for your favorites, but bashing people for no reason it awful.



Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


Anyways I'm finished playing full-time, I do plan on staying in Korea, I have a meeting tomorrow in revelence to that. I will be at Code A qualifers doing LR'ing when I can as well.

thanks everyone and have a wonderful morning/evening/afternoon.

Hey, don't listen to haters man, no need to get stressed out over some Reddit jerks.
Any kind of reports on tomorrow's qualifiers would be greatly appreciated <3
You said you planned to stay in Korea, will you continue to be involved in SC2? Gl either way
Get off my lawn, young punks
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 10 2012 13:08 GMT
#1068
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
I wanted to just talk about my 2 matches against Crazy Hydra. Mind you I met him after and he was super nice and came and spoke to our group of foreigners.


speaking of this, i wonder where (Z)Hydra is upto
starleague forever
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
November 10 2012 13:10 GMT
#1069
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


I don't really know what this whole thing is about, but all I know is that I've seen a post from you in July of 2011 saying you're gold league. I guess it's possible, but if after 6 months playing you got to Gold, you have to have improved faster than anyone else in the world to make GM in another 2-3 months.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 13:17:45
November 10 2012 13:14 GMT
#1070
On November 10 2012 22:10 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


I don't really know what this whole thing is about, but all I know is that I've seen a post from you in July of 2011 saying you're gold league. I guess it's possible, but if after 6 months playing you got to Gold, you have to have improved faster than anyone else in the world to make GM in another 2-3 months.


I was playing Zerg at the time. I played protoss was was high masters with protoss. also this was Korean server. Since I started playing on the Korean server in June.

I also do want to mention that Scarlett actually in a interview said that she started playing in april 2011. And she is one of if not the best Zerg in NA
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 10 2012 13:20 GMT
#1071
masterbreti, fuck reddit man, you don't have to prove anything to anyone but yourself.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
November 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#1072
On November 10 2012 22:14 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:10 Nimic wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


I don't really know what this whole thing is about, but all I know is that I've seen a post from you in July of 2011 saying you're gold league. I guess it's possible, but if after 6 months playing you got to Gold, you have to have improved faster than anyone else in the world to make GM in another 2-3 months.


I was playing Zerg at the time. I played protoss was was high masters with protoss. also this was Korean server. Since I started playing on the Korean server in June.

I also do want to mention that Scarlett actually in a interview said that she started playing in april 2011. And she is one of if not the best Zerg in NA


I suppose!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2012 13:37 GMT
#1073
Wooo Fantasy and Jjakji fighting!!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
minilance
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
November 10 2012 13:44 GMT
#1074
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
I wanted to just talk about my 2 matches against Crazy Hydra. Mind you I met him after and he was super nice and came and spoke to our group of foreigners.

Game 1 I went for the standard Immotal Sentry all-in, It was close but Hydra played super greedy and went pool-hatch-hatch-hatch. Yeah and I didn't scout the 4th until super late, at that point though it was too late, and he had infestors. Although I did kill a lot and had good forcefields. It just wasn't enough.

Game 2 was really close actually. He went for the same build and I went for the Naniwa style 1 gate expo (never used it before today). And I was able to hold off a lot fo aggression from him, I had good forcefields, and caught like 2-3 infestors. I went for Colo and the standard deathball army. He eventually got tired and went all-in with like 6-7 corrupters and a ton of ling/infestor. He fungled my stalkers and I wasn't able to move to defend my colo (he hid his corrupters) so he took 2 out, I did hold barely, but his 2nd wave was just a little too strong for me.

all in all they were good games. Crazy-Hydra is really good and he has some beastly macro. I'm not ashamed that I lost, and people shouldn't bash me based on my results in thie qualifer.

I've proved time and time again that I'm good enough to be here in Korea, but Code A qualifers are tough, and anyone that says different is lying to themselves. I was nervous and had tears in my eyes when I lost. I shouldn't have to prove myself to anyone, let alone reddit. I've practiced 10 hours a day since I came to Korea and worked my ass off to prove to the community that I am good, but no matter how well I do, people will always seek to break you down. They will take things out of context or out of time frame. People assume that I wanted to be famous here in Korea. Thats not what I wanted. I just wanted people to cheer for me. I see so many people each time in these threads say "who is radrel?" and it does bother me a little bit. I mean it would bother a lot of people. I wanted people to see my name and not ask "who is he?". Its not unfair to me. And I never said it was unfair. I see so many foreigners who come to Korea and try their best, but the community overlooks them. I've seen it a number of times. Plato was another good example of this, he had no press on coming to Korea, and lost in his first qualifers and then quit sc2 that evening. And he had results, he was the 2nd best player in Israel. Although it does happen. It is heartbreaking to see it happen so often. and Koreans are no different, people were bashing my friend Salmosa because he almost got into code A. Do people really not like him so much that he warrents people hating on him. Its not just about cheering for your favorites, but bashing people for no reason it awful.



Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


Anyways I'm finished playing full-time, I do plan on staying in Korea, I have a meeting tomorrow in revelence to that. I will be at Code A qualifers doing LR'ing when I can as well.

thanks everyone and have a wonderful morning/evening/afternoon.


This made me sad, I never heard of you, but i am sad that people bash you and other players for no reason.
Radrel fighting
Bisu, Jangbang <3
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 13:44:55
November 10 2012 13:44 GMT
#1075
On November 10 2012 21:42 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 20:30 rj rl wrote:
The 50/50 and 70/30 numbers might be what you wished for, but are not reflective of actual skill numbers, sorry.

and the OSL told me different story somehow. Maybe i haven't made myself clear enough, I considered code S only as the main tournament.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
November 10 2012 14:11 GMT
#1076
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
I wanted to just talk about my 2 matches against Crazy Hydra. Mind you I met him after and he was super nice and came and spoke to our group of foreigners.

Game 1 I went for the standard Immotal Sentry all-in, It was close but Hydra played super greedy and went pool-hatch-hatch-hatch. Yeah and I didn't scout the 4th until super late, at that point though it was too late, and he had infestors. Although I did kill a lot and had good forcefields. It just wasn't enough.

Game 2 was really close actually. He went for the same build and I went for the Naniwa style 1 gate expo (never used it before today). And I was able to hold off a lot fo aggression from him, I had good forcefields, and caught like 2-3 infestors. I went for Colo and the standard deathball army. He eventually got tired and went all-in with like 6-7 corrupters and a ton of ling/infestor. He fungled my stalkers and I wasn't able to move to defend my colo (he hid his corrupters) so he took 2 out, I did hold barely, but his 2nd wave was just a little too strong for me.

all in all they were good games. Crazy-Hydra is really good and he has some beastly macro. I'm not ashamed that I lost, and people shouldn't bash me based on my results in thie qualifer.

I've proved time and time again that I'm good enough to be here in Korea, but Code A qualifers are tough, and anyone that says different is lying to themselves. I was nervous and had tears in my eyes when I lost. I shouldn't have to prove myself to anyone, let alone reddit. I've practiced 10 hours a day since I came to Korea and worked my ass off to prove to the community that I am good, but no matter how well I do, people will always seek to break you down. They will take things out of context or out of time frame. People assume that I wanted to be famous here in Korea. Thats not what I wanted. I just wanted people to cheer for me. I see so many people each time in these threads say "who is radrel?" and it does bother me a little bit. I mean it would bother a lot of people. I wanted people to see my name and not ask "who is he?". Its not unfair to me. And I never said it was unfair. I see so many foreigners who come to Korea and try their best, but the community overlooks them. I've seen it a number of times. Plato was another good example of this, he had no press on coming to Korea, and lost in his first qualifers and then quit sc2 that evening. And he had results, he was the 2nd best player in Israel. Although it does happen. It is heartbreaking to see it happen so often. and Koreans are no different, people were bashing my friend Salmosa because he almost got into code A. Do people really not like him so much that he warrents people hating on him. Its not just about cheering for your favorites, but bashing people for no reason it awful.



Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


Anyways I'm finished playing full-time, I do plan on staying in Korea, I have a meeting tomorrow in revelence to that. I will be at Code A qualifers doing LR'ing when I can as well.

thanks everyone and have a wonderful morning/evening/afternoon.




Cheer up man, those are internet keyboard commandos who wont squat a shit to you in real life.

Ive always thought you are a respectable, rational person judging from your previous posts, and

now im more convinced .

cheer up man!
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
November 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#1077
On November 10 2012 21:42 masterbreti wrote:
I wanted to just talk about my 2 matches against Crazy Hydra. Mind you I met him after and he was super nice and came and spoke to our group of foreigners.

Game 1 I went for the standard Immotal Sentry all-in, It was close but Hydra played super greedy and went pool-hatch-hatch-hatch. Yeah and I didn't scout the 4th until super late, at that point though it was too late, and he had infestors. Although I did kill a lot and had good forcefields. It just wasn't enough.

Game 2 was really close actually. He went for the same build and I went for the Naniwa style 1 gate expo (never used it before today). And I was able to hold off a lot fo aggression from him, I had good forcefields, and caught like 2-3 infestors. I went for Colo and the standard deathball army. He eventually got tired and went all-in with like 6-7 corrupters and a ton of ling/infestor. He fungled my stalkers and I wasn't able to move to defend my colo (he hid his corrupters) so he took 2 out, I did hold barely, but his 2nd wave was just a little too strong for me.

all in all they were good games. Crazy-Hydra is really good and he has some beastly macro. I'm not ashamed that I lost, and people shouldn't bash me based on my results in thie qualifer.

I've proved time and time again that I'm good enough to be here in Korea, but Code A qualifers are tough, and anyone that says different is lying to themselves. I was nervous and had tears in my eyes when I lost. I shouldn't have to prove myself to anyone, let alone reddit. I've practiced 10 hours a day since I came to Korea and worked my ass off to prove to the community that I am good, but no matter how well I do, people will always seek to break you down. They will take things out of context or out of time frame. People assume that I wanted to be famous here in Korea. Thats not what I wanted. I just wanted people to cheer for me. I see so many people each time in these threads say "who is radrel?" and it does bother me a little bit. I mean it would bother a lot of people. I wanted people to see my name and not ask "who is he?". Its not unfair to me. And I never said it was unfair. I see so many foreigners who come to Korea and try their best, but the community overlooks them. I've seen it a number of times. Plato was another good example of this, he had no press on coming to Korea, and lost in his first qualifers and then quit sc2 that evening. And he had results, he was the 2nd best player in Israel. Although it does happen. It is heartbreaking to see it happen so often. and Koreans are no different, people were bashing my friend Salmosa because he almost got into code A. Do people really not like him so much that he warrents people hating on him. Its not just about cheering for your favorites, but bashing people for no reason it awful.



Before I came to Korea I lived in Rural Canada, Where my internet speed was 2MB down and 512kbps up. It was coming off a radio tower. ( this plan to be exact http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Rural_2_Mbps ) I still played as much as I could to prove to others I could do it. I got GM on NA in fall of 2011. I applied to prime and got in. Do people really think I would have applied to prime house if I wasn't good enough to be there? Do people really think I'm that dumb?


Anyways I'm finished playing full-time, I do plan on staying in Korea, I have a meeting tomorrow in revelence to that. I will be at Code A qualifers doing LR'ing when I can as well.

thanks everyone and have a wonderful morning/evening/afternoon.

I dunno if you've noticed, but I've always rooted for you.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
November 10 2012 14:34 GMT
#1078
Looks like Dark ended up in T1

nice!
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
pencil_ethics
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
November 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#1079
On November 10 2012 23:34 mongmong wrote:
Looks like Dark ended up in T1

nice!


Indeed, although his contract is not finalised yet. In any case, that *actually* makes it 5-5 KeSPA/eSF for the day d-:
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 10 2012 14:39 GMT
#1080
On November 10 2012 23:34 mongmong wrote:
Looks like Dark ended up in T1

nice!

I wouldn't be surprised if other ex slayers players ended up on T1 boxer probably got them in.
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