EPT[Code S] RO32 Group B 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 2
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:31 BlazeFury01 wrote: Go look at the MLG invitational and look at the Zergs above RoRo. Soulkey, Effort, Hyvaa, Soo. Lol, so you only look at results from 1 tournament? | ||
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Acer1791
Germany182 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:31 BlazeFury01 wrote: Go look at the MLG invitational and look at the Zergs above RoRo. Soulkey, Effort, Hyvaa, Soo. well mlg invitational isnt the best source a guess. roro did beat some strong players including drg and made it to code s in his first try. if he wins code s we have our first BIG royal roader ^^ roro and symbol in this group i guess  | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:32 BlazeFury01 wrote: Hyvaa even 4-1ed Rain that event. IMHappy beat Rain as well so I guess Happy is the top eSF Terran... | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:33 vthree wrote: Lol, so you only look at results from 1 tournament? Yeah and? That "1" tournament gave players who haven't been given the spotlight a chance to show what they have. Those Zergs Ranked higher then RoRo. Also, those players played a total of 48 games. I guess 48 games is "too small" of a sample size for you. Any more sarcastic comments vthree? Because I see you like dishing them out 24/7. | ||
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Acer1791
Germany182 Posts
there were so many "no shows" ,etc that it isnt really a notable sucess if you are in a higher place than roro there. offline tourneys matter and there roro was the best  | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:34 vthree wrote: IMHappy beat Rain as well so I guess Happy is the top eSF Terran... This tournament was more recent. Also, Rain had won WCS Asia which shows that he was well experienced. Also, he 4-1ed DRG in the same mu a week later and also won OSL. Keep your sarcasm coming. I'll shut you down each and every time. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:39 Acer1791 wrote: the problem with the mlg invitational is, that is was online only and crossserver. there were so many "no shows" ,etc that it isnt really a notable sucess if you are in a higher place than roro there. offline tourneys matter and there roro was the best I agree that RoRo has been the best this far in the offline tournaments but we cannot conclude that he is the best Kespa Zerg without seeing much of the others play. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:37 BlazeFury01 wrote: Yeah and? That "1" tournament gave players who haven't been given the spotlight a chance to show what they have. Those Zergs Ranked higher then RoRo. Also, those players played a total of 48 games. I guess 48 games is "too small" of a sample size for you. Any more sarcastic comments vthree? Because I see you like dishing them out 24/7. That one tournament had tons of walkovers and was cross server and online only. Roro proved himself at WCS korea as well as WCS Asia, offline events against some of the best players ESF has to offer. I'm sorry but i'm not going to pull any conclusions from MvP, and neither should you. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:34 vthree wrote: IMHappy beat Rain as well so I guess Happy is the top eSF Terran... Also, Happy didn't 4-1 rain when Rain was at the top of his game like Hyvva did. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
who doesn't like saying ROROLLED | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:43 Fragile51 wrote: That one tournament had tons of walkovers and was cross server and online only. Roro proved himself at WCS korea as well as WCS Asia, offline events against some of the best players ESF has to offer. I'm sorry but i'm not going to pull any conclusions from MvP, and neither should you. The only conclusion I pulled from the tournament is that Kespa has a lot of great Zergs. And with Hyvaas one sided victory over Rain, I think its safe to say that there are other Kespa Zergs in the running for "best zerg" that we haven't had much of a chance to see. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:46 Dodgin wrote: roro's name is also way better who doesn't like saying ROROLLED It rorolls nicely off the tongue  | ||
TheEmulator
28097 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On October 29 2012 23:39 BlazeFury01 wrote: This tournament was more recent. Also, Rain had won WCS Asia which shows that he was well experienced. Also, he 4-1ed DRG in the same mu a week later and also won OSL. Keep your sarcasm coming. I'll shut you down each and every time. Have you noticed that you are the only one not considering Roro the top Kespa Zerg so far by results? You keep mentioning about spotlight. The other zergs all had the same chances. Roro was seeded to code A for his PL performances. Which meant he was one of the top PL zergs. He also made it through the WCS Korea which all the other Kespa zergs all tried to do as well. As others have mentioned, MvP was online and cross server so the results do have less weight compare to these other results. Also, the original poster said 'IMO' and your response was 'you are wrong!' And then you got shut down hard... People call Rain the best Kespa player as well (and maybe best player overall, Kespa, non Kespa). Using your argument, you could call them wrong as well because he lost 4-1 to hyvaa so hyvaa should be #1 but we just haven't seen him in other tournaments. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On October 30 2012 00:02 vthree wrote: Have you noticed that you are the only one not considering Roro the top Kespa Zerg so far by results? You keep mentioning about spotlight. The other zergs all had the same chances. Roro was seeded to code A for his PL performances. Which meant he was one of the top PL zergs. He also made it through the WCS Korea which all the other Kespa zergs all tried to do as well. As others have mentioned, MvP was online and cross server so the results do have less weight compare to these other results. Also, the original poster said 'IMO' and your response was 'you are wrong!' And then you got shut down hard... People call Rain the best Kespa player as well (and maybe best player overall, Kespa, non Kespa). Using your argument, you could call them wrong as well because he lost 4-1 to hyvaa so hyvaa should be #1 but we just haven't seen him in other tournaments. You win. Go Terrans!! | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 30 2012 00:02 vthree wrote: Have you noticed that you are the only one not considering Roro the top Kespa Zerg so far by results? You keep mentioning about spotlight. The other zergs all had the same chances. Roro was seeded to code A for his PL performances. Which meant he was one of the top PL zergs. He also made it through the WCS Korea which all the other Kespa zergs all tried to do as well. As others have mentioned, MvP was online and cross server so the results do have less weight compare to these other results. Also, the original poster said 'IMO' and your response was 'you are wrong!' And then you got shut down hard... People call Rain the best Kespa player as well (and maybe best player overall, Kespa, non Kespa). Using your argument, you could call them wrong as well because he lost 4-1 to hyvaa so hyvaa should be #1 but we just haven't seen him in other tournaments. The difference is the length of time that has elasped since those PL games. Kespa players have gotten better since then. While Roro may have been doing well at the earliest stages of the transition that doesn't mean that he is the best Zerg. Also, when did I say Hyvaa was "#1" lol I used Hyvaas lopsided win over rain as an example that RoRo might not be the best Kespa zerg that everybody thinks and that there are others in the running that haven't been in the spotlight much. I did however say that I agree that RoRo has done better then all other Kespa zergs by offline tournament results but that doesn't make him the best Kespa zerg. It makes him the most successful thus far. we have yet to see who the best Kespa Zerg is and we will get that opportunity in the next season of Pro League. Also, what are you talking about, "You were shut down hard"? I think your just trying to fit in a punchline to give your paragraph some validation that it holds weight or something lol. Also, you have quotations on something I didn't directly say. 'You are wrong' I never said that. I said 'he isn't" and gave supporting evidence for my opinion. Also, your mentioning of Rain only supports my opinion. Because the best overall player being beat 4-1 by somebody who many of the SC2 fans know nothing about only shows that there might possibly be some better Kespa zergs out there. As I recall, RoRo lost to CjHero. So, judging by your logic: Cjhero is the second best Kespa toss, huh? | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
Let's just hope that Symbol doesn't choke and gives us some actual good games. | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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