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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#41
On October 15 2012 11:08 Noocta wrote:
I still don't understand what happend to SEn over the last year.
He probably make his thing over in Taiwan, but back in the day he was the best foreign Zerg by far. Seems so long ago..


Possibly due to the lack of sufficient practice and infrastructure. The game has evolved so much beyond having incredible mechanics, and keeping in touch with the metagame (aka Koreans and top Euro players) is necessary to be successful. I doubt Taiwan has any of that beyond ladder.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#42
On October 15 2012 11:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:08 Noocta wrote:
I still don't understand what happend to SEn over the last year.
He probably make his thing over in Taiwan, but back in the day he was the best foreign Zerg by far. Seems so long ago..


You mean back when IdrA was the best foreign Zerg by far and Sen was a clear second? But yeah... that was a very, very long time ago lol. Not sure what caused Sen to fade so much (although he did the best out of any non-Korean in WCS Asia).


Yeah.
Obviously he's still very good. But after he left Fnatic he basicly vanished from the western scene.
Kinda the same way as Fenix after he joined IM.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#43
On October 15 2012 11:16 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 15 2012 11:08 Noocta wrote:
I still don't understand what happend to SEn over the last year.
He probably make his thing over in Taiwan, but back in the day he was the best foreign Zerg by far. Seems so long ago..


You mean back when IdrA was the best foreign Zerg by far and Sen was a clear second? But yeah... that was a very, very long time ago lol. Not sure what caused Sen to fade so much (although he did the best out of any non-Korean in WCS Asia).


Yeah.
Obviously he's still very good. But after he left Fnatic he basicly vanished from the western scene.
Kinda the same way as Fenix after he joined IM.


That reminds me, whatever happened to Fenix? I heard somethings about health issues and how he returned to Peru for personal reasons. Still find it interesting he is part of IM despite never appearing on their squad, or even in pro-gaming in general. I think he's basically retired at this point.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#44
On October 15 2012 11:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:08 Noocta wrote:
I still don't understand what happend to SEn over the last year.
He probably make his thing over in Taiwan, but back in the day he was the best foreign Zerg by far. Seems so long ago..


Possibly due to the lack of sufficient practice and infrastructure. The game has evolved so much beyond having incredible mechanics, and keeping in touch with the metagame (aka Koreans and top Euro players) is necessary to be successful. I doubt Taiwan has any of that beyond ladder.


Havent seen Sen stream in a while but he used to play exclusively on the Korean sever. I wonder if that is not the case anymore.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
October 15 2012 02:19 GMT
#45
On October 15 2012 11:16 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 15 2012 11:08 Noocta wrote:
I still don't understand what happend to SEn over the last year.
He probably make his thing over in Taiwan, but back in the day he was the best foreign Zerg by far. Seems so long ago..


You mean back when IdrA was the best foreign Zerg by far and Sen was a clear second? But yeah... that was a very, very long time ago lol. Not sure what caused Sen to fade so much (although he did the best out of any non-Korean in WCS Asia).


Yeah.
Obviously he's still very good. But after he left Fnatic he basicly vanished from the western scene.
Kinda the same way as Fenix after he joined IM.


Agreed. I think it might just be the usual "everyone else caught up to him" problem. He's still playing well but everyone else got better, faster.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
October 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#46
Twitch.tv is crapping out like usual...and this is such an awesome game.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
October 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#47
On October 15 2012 11:15 FreudianTrip wrote:
No transition from Sen. It's like watching Starcraft a year ago.


He transitioned from muta-ling-bling to stronger muta-ling-bling.

And clearly, that's good enough
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 02:22:37
October 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#48
I like how this is a game that is 30 minutes, and still stuck at Muta/Ling/Bane.

qxc might be having trouble against Sen's style because of how different it is from traditional late-game compositions. He might be too used to BL/Corruptor/Infestor rather than the harass/mobile heavy Muta/Ling/Bane.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 02:22:44
October 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#49
NASL really should employ a speech therapist to help Rotterdam articulate slightly better than donald duck and to remove that constant never ending sinus curve from bitter's emphasizing

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#50
Wow, great game. Love that old school style of muta-ling-bling.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#51
SEn actually got Hive to upgrade his Muta to 3/0 and his ling bane to 3/3
Such a weird way to play, but I guess it cover the weakness of old mutaling : 3/3 marines.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 02:24:57
October 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#52
On October 15 2012 11:22 transcendent one wrote:
NASL really should employ a speech terapis to help Rotterdam articulate slightly better than donald duck and to remove that constant never ending sinus curve from bitter's emphasizing


Maybe you think they sound so silly because they're reading your writing.

If you don't like the way they sound, watch it on mute.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
October 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#53
On October 15 2012 11:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:15 FreudianTrip wrote:
No transition from Sen. It's like watching Starcraft a year ago.


He transitioned from muta-ling-bling to stronger muta-ling-bling.

And clearly, that's good enough


Haha, yeah I thought he was dead when he made 8000 lings but apparently its a good strat ^^
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
October 15 2012 02:28 GMT
#54
On October 15 2012 11:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:22 transcendent one wrote:
NASL really should employ a speech terapis to help Rotterdam articulate slightly better than donald duck and to remove that constant never ending sinus curve from bitter's emphasizing


Maybe you think they sound so silly because they're reading your writing.



wat
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
October 15 2012 02:28 GMT
#55
You can have spaces in your name? NOW IM MAD.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
October 15 2012 02:30 GMT
#56
so, no statement about naniwa vs select?
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45771 Posts
October 15 2012 02:31 GMT
#57
On October 15 2012 11:25 FreudianTrip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 11:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 15 2012 11:15 FreudianTrip wrote:
No transition from Sen. It's like watching Starcraft a year ago.


He transitioned from muta-ling-bling to stronger muta-ling-bling.

And clearly, that's good enough


Haha, yeah I thought he was dead when he made 8000 lings but apparently its a good strat ^^


I thought so too haha, but imperfect positioning and splitting by qxc x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
October 15 2012 02:32 GMT
#58
On October 15 2012 11:30 xuanzue wrote:
so, no statement about naniwa vs select?

No-one cares.
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
October 15 2012 02:34 GMT
#59
I hope qxc can make a close series out of this. I know he's been practicing lately so I hope he'll put up some results. Almost getting nostalgia now when I think back to the period of SC2 when qxc was one of the top foreigners.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 15 2012 02:38 GMT
#60
If only qxc had bothered to build Thors, Mutas wouldn't be such a nuisance.
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