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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 14 2012 19:30 GMT
#2021
I didn't watch this but looking at the brackets I'm amazed how close we got to herO vs HerO twice
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 14 2012 19:50 GMT
#2022
lol sun 12-1 toi ez
Writer
RainMore
Profile Joined December 2010
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 19:56:51
October 14 2012 19:55 GMT
#2023
Maybe they should place all 4 terrans into a single group so there'll be at least 2 terrans in the final 16 ... I already got enough PvP, PvZ, and ZvZ from these qualifiers to last a lifetime. Shamefully that'd make the group stages impossible to watch as well so ... thank you MvP for beating Rain even though I'm a Rain fan.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
October 14 2012 19:55 GMT
#2024
On October 15 2012 01:25 styleworks79 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 01:21 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP is far from a bonjwa.. he's not even dominating. He is getting wins here and there. He dropped out of OSL, he didnt even get past group stage in a foreign tourney. His last GSL win was nowhere near domination when he cheese most of his games.


If he wins his 5th GSL title, I don't think people would argue about MVP being the 1st bonjwa of SC2. At least, that is how
I see it.

then you absolutely have no idea what a bonjwa is. and - imo of course - a gsl win before the swich of the kespa players doesn't mean that much.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25405 Posts
October 14 2012 20:11 GMT
#2025
Didn't really care who won as long as we saw the top dogs qualify for the worlds. Parting, Rain, the two Heros and 2 Zergs is a pretty good lineup.

Also the HerO fanboy in me is rather happy that his bunny status in PvP has been thrown off a bit. He's now in that tier of players that can beat anybody, or lose to anybody on their day.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
October 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#2026
Rain won 12 games and lost one.

One.
maru G5L pls
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 14 2012 20:30 GMT
#2027
On October 15 2012 05:28 neptunusfisk wrote:
Rain won 12 games and lost one.

One.


What an epic fail, couldn't even get a perfect record :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 14 2012 20:35 GMT
#2028
Wow, by.sun dropped one game to cj_herO and won the rest. Congratulations on becoming WCS Asia Champion!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 14 2012 22:44 GMT
#2029
All three Kespa players qualify. :D
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 14 2012 22:49 GMT
#2030
On October 15 2012 04:55 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 01:25 styleworks79 wrote:
On October 15 2012 01:21 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP is far from a bonjwa.. he's not even dominating. He is getting wins here and there. He dropped out of OSL, he didnt even get past group stage in a foreign tourney. His last GSL win was nowhere near domination when he cheese most of his games.


If he wins his 5th GSL title, I don't think people would argue about MVP being the 1st bonjwa of SC2. At least, that is how
I see it.

then you absolutely have no idea what a bonjwa is. and - imo of course - a gsl win before the swich of the kespa players doesn't mean that much.



This is incredibly ignorant. Mvp probably would be Bonjwa if it was like the SC1 days where you had the major Starleagues and not much else. There are so many tournaments in SC2 that its impossible to win them all, so someone who could have been Bonjwa in SC1 would be seen as a lower level in SC2 since there are more tournaments.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden887 Posts
October 14 2012 22:56 GMT
#2031
mvp dropped like a single game to win a gsl, and he wins almost evrething he ever enters. As soon as he comes like top 16 gsl and droppes out evreones like : naaahhhh no bonjwa for you, you actually lost! Newsflash, bonjwas in broodwar also loses in their prime.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 23:16:20
October 14 2012 23:14 GMT
#2032
Why don't we let the Koreans decide that, like they always have. -_-

+ Show Spoiler +
And I'll bet anything that hell will freeze over before mvp gains that status in Korea
jiberish
Profile Joined April 2011
80 Posts
October 15 2012 00:11 GMT
#2033
Daymn Rain is good
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
October 15 2012 00:13 GMT
#2034
the Startale 2nd place curse strikes again...
IN SOVIET RUSSIA ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ Table Flips you
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
October 15 2012 00:17 GMT
#2035
Protoss reign again! Love it, like WCS South Korea! :D
Congratz to Rain, PartinG and especially HerO who finally advanced further in a big tournament. I'm very disappointed though that Creator didn't get a Seed for the World Finals. :/
RainMore
Profile Joined December 2010
98 Posts
October 15 2012 00:29 GMT
#2036
On October 15 2012 09:17 Bahajinbo wrote:
Protoss reign again! Love it, like WCS South Korea! :D
Congratz to Rain, PartinG and especially HerO who finally advanced further in a big tournament. I'm very disappointed though that Creator didn't get a Seed for the World Finals. :/


He already qualified before this.
Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 00:43:47
October 15 2012 00:43 GMT
#2037
Well.... HerO beat Seed and Parting!!! 2-0 !!!


It does suck tho that he then dropped two PvP's 2-0.... HerO needs to start playing better when the pressure is turned up to full, and when the stakes are high. At least we know HerO is looking like he's playing the best Starcraft he's ever played right now, because defeating Seed and Parting 2-0 really cements that. But yeah he just needs that extra champion attitude that thrives when its all on the line in the final stages of the tournaments. Something that he's been lacking for a long time now..... its been really apparent in the last few GSL's and at the IPTL finals.... sadly now here its come into play again.


One day Liquid'HerO..... one day.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 01:39:16
October 15 2012 01:35 GMT
#2038
On October 15 2012 07:49 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 04:55 Elroi wrote:
On October 15 2012 01:25 styleworks79 wrote:
On October 15 2012 01:21 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP is far from a bonjwa.. he's not even dominating. He is getting wins here and there. He dropped out of OSL, he didnt even get past group stage in a foreign tourney. His last GSL win was nowhere near domination when he cheese most of his games.


If he wins his 5th GSL title, I don't think people would argue about MVP being the 1st bonjwa of SC2. At least, that is how
I see it.

then you absolutely have no idea what a bonjwa is. and - imo of course - a gsl win before the swich of the kespa players doesn't mean that much.



This is incredibly ignorant. Mvp probably would be Bonjwa if it was like the SC1 days where you had the major Starleagues and not much else. There are so many tournaments in SC2 that its impossible to win them all, so someone who could have been Bonjwa in SC1 would be seen as a lower level in SC2 since there are more tournaments.



sorry but I have to agree with the post your quoting

there are alot of major sc2 tournaments but the only premier one with major talent is GSL
now that the OSL is out with sc2 we can see two big dual tournaments run simultaneously similar to mbc and ogn in the past
once mvp gets a gold mouse or plat mouse in osl to match his GSL wins I have no problem claiming him a bonjwa
but until then he can't be considered...one of the things about being a bonjwa is no one doubts your title
dumchu
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
October 15 2012 01:38 GMT
#2039
On October 15 2012 07:49 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 04:55 Elroi wrote:
On October 15 2012 01:25 styleworks79 wrote:
On October 15 2012 01:21 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP is far from a bonjwa.. he's not even dominating. He is getting wins here and there. He dropped out of OSL, he didnt even get past group stage in a foreign tourney. His last GSL win was nowhere near domination when he cheese most of his games.


If he wins his 5th GSL title, I don't think people would argue about MVP being the 1st bonjwa of SC2. At least, that is how
I see it.

then you absolutely have no idea what a bonjwa is. and - imo of course - a gsl win before the swich of the kespa players doesn't mean that much.



This is incredibly ignorant. Mvp probably would be Bonjwa if it was like the SC1 days where you had the major Starleagues and not much else. There are so many tournaments in SC2 that its impossible to win them all, so someone who could have been Bonjwa in SC1 would be seen as a lower level in SC2 since there are more tournaments.


I agree with the bolded quote. However, give credit where credit is due. MVP earned those wins with preparation and hard work. Realistically, It's not his fault that Kespa decided to transition late. However, considering that Kespa players pretty much paved the way for SC2 to be what it is today both mechanically and technically I'd wouldn't say that power-overwhelmings quote is ignorant but it certainly isn't needed. A GSL win is a GSL win regardless of who you play. But the term bonjwa "is" decided by a year or so of pure domination of the highest competition. Although MVP did win against the highest competition on SC2 at that time, he didn't play against the cream of the crop which were in this case the Kespa players. If he can have the success he's had in WOL against the Kespa players in HOTS where everybody has a fresh start then MVP will undoubtedly deserve the title "bonjwa". Until then, he is the "most successful player on WOL".
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
October 15 2012 01:44 GMT
#2040
On October 15 2012 05:35 bokchoi wrote:
Wow, by.sun dropped one game to cj_herO and won the rest. Congratulations on becoming WCS Asia Champion!


Cj Hero has been his kryptonite :D I am glad to see him get his revenge for what happened in the play offs.
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