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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 13 2012 10:41 GMT
#1121
On October 13 2012 19:25 CoR wrote:
and stop all the p hate lol xD its just korean qualifiers was nearly all p and MVP and i think mma FORFEITS their places in korea qualifier and Marineking not qualifier losing tvt vs amateur or something .... its not p fault just t sucked in korea qualfiiers or just not played

MarineKing lost to IMhorror (Zerg) and MMA didn't forfeit, he lost to TSL.Inori (Protoss).

Basically the qualifiers happened at a period where Terran weren't winning at all, particularly vs. Zerg. Sucks, but there you go. The situation is obviously pretty different right now.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
October 13 2012 10:44 GMT
#1122
On October 13 2012 19:32 Yagami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 19:26 budar wrote:
On October 13 2012 19:21 Bam Lee wrote:
On October 13 2012 19:21 Laryleprakon wrote:
At least we had Artosis/Grubby to get us thro that.


yea awesome combination!


Will be awesome when there's no protoss in the game... Otherwise the protoss bias is kind of annoying me :S. The only thing you can say about ZvP is that it is completely retarded as a whole, but to constantly talk about how broodlord/infestor is OP is just dumb. Also, Artosis mentioned how Leenock beat Hero and Grubby said that it "showed Zerg can win even after losing the whole game". What he didn't say is that Protoss can also win after losing the whole game, via the same mechanism (remember, Hero lost because his army got vortexed by a protoss unit

That's not how vortex works.

If protoss manages to get a vortex; he needs to trap most of the brood lords, have enough archons and hope that the infestors don't have enough energy to throw a thousand infested terran into the vortex.

If zerg neurals the mothership and uses vortex the game is pretty much over.


Right, and the IT being thrown in the vortex is a relatively recent metagame development. For months Protoss was winning a ton of games via archon toilet. Also, it's a lot easier to vortex as Protoss than to neural->vortex as Zerg. Anyway, it's a pointless discussion - the matchup is broken pretty much from minute 9 onwards (it's only ok before that because nothing ever happens as everyone is setting up their economy). There are literally at least 10 interleaved factors that makes the matchup bad. Nerf/buff one and one race will win more often.

This is getting pretty OT, so sorry about that, but I consider Protoss similar to the retribution paladin in WoW arena. For people who haven't played that, the retri paladin was never really balanced for arena - it was either too weak or it was OP (often for short periods after major patches)... Therefore, it was too weak most of the time because that only made a small part of the community mad (paladins are only one class and could have played other specs successfully). Anyway, in my opinion, warpgate, forcefield and colossus make Protoss work a lot like that, i.e. extremely hard to balance. Hope HotS fixes it somehow because Protoss is a lot more important to sc2 than the retri paladin was to WoW arena.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 13 2012 10:50 GMT
#1123
thanks miya for derping, i was getting a bit concerned there
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 13 2012 10:52 GMT
#1124
well, Miya first Korean player eliminated from the tournament.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 10:53:34
October 13 2012 10:52 GMT
#1125
On October 13 2012 19:52 Dodgin wrote:
well, Miya first Korean player eliminated from the tournament.

not surprised ;p

pretty glad they flew gerrard out too, creator could use the support
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 13 2012 10:53 GMT
#1126
slayers curse
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33560 Posts
October 13 2012 10:53 GMT
#1127
creator, winning with same builds for how many months now :D?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
October 13 2012 10:54 GMT
#1128
On October 13 2012 19:52 Dodgin wrote:
well, Miya first Korean player eliminated from the tournament.


The EG curse must be contagious..!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 13 2012 10:54 GMT
#1129
WHAT!!!
Artosis and Grubby?!?!?! What awesomeness is this?!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
October 13 2012 10:54 GMT
#1130
Truly expert analysis. The way Grubby explained it matched perfectly to what I thought in my mind. Miya just needed to sit back, smack up like 15+ Spines on both of his outer bases and just waited for the Protoss to attack. After the fight, he'd have more than enough supply to remax with broodlords.
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
October 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#1131
On October 13 2012 19:52 Dodgin wrote:
well, Miya first Korean player eliminated from the tournament.


as expected
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#1132
Darn, Creator moves on. That makes me sad.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 13 2012 10:56 GMT
#1133
This casting brings the entertainment a step further, it's just a real delight listening to these guys guiding the viewers through the games.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 13 2012 10:56 GMT
#1134
On October 13 2012 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
creator, winning with same builds for how many months now :D?

his double forge PvT is like, a year old now almost?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 13 2012 10:56 GMT
#1135
phew at least creator still has a shot, counting on parting to make it to global finals first......hopefully curious and squirtle can move on too
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
October 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#1136
Nooooo, my internet is imploding on itself ><
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#1137
GD studio stream is up http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TheGDStudio

looks like there's no LR thread
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
October 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#1138
On October 13 2012 19:56 X3GoldDot wrote:
phew at least creator still has a shot, counting on parting to make it to global finals first......hopefully curious and squirtle can move on too



Parting is IMMORTAL vs zerg... heheheheheheh
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
October 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#1139
Wow, that's some of the best casting ever by Grubby and Artosis.
Bomber, MC, Jaedong, Scarlett, Grubby, DeMuslim, fy, Super, n0tail, Illidan, Universe
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#1140
winner of seed/hero makes it
roro/parting
sen/hero2
rain/toodming

will make global finals - prediciting seed, roro, hero2 and rain.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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