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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32760 Posts
November 10 2012 18:46 GMT
#1341
Thanks for the input Wombat and Dodgin.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
November 10 2012 18:47 GMT
#1342
The skill difference in SC2 is becoming more accentuated over time. It's good to see.
KT best KT ~ 2014
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
November 10 2012 18:47 GMT
#1343
"Technical game", synonym of "Bomber just happened to run ToD over" in the verbiage of politically correct casting.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 10 2012 18:47 GMT
#1344
On November 11 2012 03:46 Mackus wrote:
Finally Thorzain vs Crank

This tournament has more downtime than MLG and that's nearing impossible


Huh? Do you realize that there are two streams? There's like 0 downtime.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
November 10 2012 18:47 GMT
#1345
Time to Watch Crank v Thorzain. The Bomber game looked like a practice match
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
November 10 2012 18:49 GMT
#1346
No problem Phoenix, I wish I could make sensible reads and understand these things when I'm actually playing haha
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18872 Posts
November 10 2012 18:49 GMT
#1347
It seems like opening hellions in TvP is a good comparative "skill check". If the Toss's micro is good enough, they'll tend to hold off the hellions without too much trouble. If not, the hellions wreak havoc and probe death ensues.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:52:50
November 10 2012 18:49 GMT
#1348
Foreigners really have to step it up if they expect to have a shadow of a chance in the future. The more I see the competition in SC2, the skill gap between foreigners and Koreans is being more pronounced, with only maybe 4-5 foreigners able to match Koreans consistently.

On November 11 2012 03:49 farvacola wrote:
It seems like opening hellions in TvP is a good comparative "skill check". If the Toss's micro is good enough, they'll tend to hold off the hellions without too much trouble. If not, the hellions wreak havoc and probe death ensues.


I've been liking the recent Hellion openers in TvP because of the reasons you just stated. Hellions are better in the hands of top-tier TvP'ers, but look really weak in the control of rather low-tier ones. Take for example Polt's Hellionshee build, it is fairly easy to execute the build, but the control and positioning of units is something I imagine only top-tier players executing properly.
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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
November 10 2012 18:49 GMT
#1349
On November 11 2012 03:45 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:43 Zygno wrote:
Honestly i don't like the casters that much, i don't feel like they have good game knowledge. Maybe I'm mistaking...hope so!


The guy said sometimes zergs in gsl go double roach warren...

you are taking it out of context.
I've got moves like Jagger
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
November 10 2012 18:50 GMT
#1350
On November 11 2012 03:47 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:46 Mackus wrote:
Finally Thorzain vs Crank

This tournament has more downtime than MLG and that's nearing impossible


Huh? Do you realize that there are two streams? There's like 0 downtime.


I don't have the privilege of changing streams on a portable screen on the desk smaller than my head trying to do work
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:50:47
November 10 2012 18:50 GMT
#1351
On November 11 2012 03:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Foreigners really have to step it up if they expect to have a shadow of a chance in the future. The more I see the competition in SC2, the skill gap between foreigners and Koreans is being more pronounced, with only maybe 4-5 foreigners able to match Koreans consistently.


HOTS is coming, it will be a semi reset.

It's too late for WOL, top 16 of the last MLG were 15 Koreans and Naniwa who stays in Korea and was Code S ro8 twice.

It's only going to get worse as time goes on.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 10 2012 18:50 GMT
#1352
Who is casting with Day9 on the second stream?
EZ4ENCE
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 10 2012 18:51 GMT
#1353
On November 11 2012 03:50 WindWolf wrote:
Who is casting with Day9 on the second stream?

Axeltoss
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2012 18:51 GMT
#1354
On November 11 2012 03:49 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:45 Glurkenspurk wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:43 Zygno wrote:
Honestly i don't like the casters that much, i don't feel like they have good game knowledge. Maybe I'm mistaking...hope so!


The guy said sometimes zergs in gsl go double roach warren...

you are taking it out of context.


Plus Leenock has done that before, he did it to Taeja and Taeja did the worlds most perfect scan - picking up both of them in time for him to defend with bunkers/turret.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#1355
Ganzi beating Ret is an upset? really now? -.-
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#1356
thorzain is going to get roflstomped
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
November 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#1357
--- Nuked ---
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#1358
need crowd mic..
IM & EG supporter
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18872 Posts
November 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#1359
On November 11 2012 03:52 Schelim wrote:
Ganzi beating Ret is an upset? really now? -.-

Unfettered optimism. That's how.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2012 18:53 GMT
#1360
On November 11 2012 03:50 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:47 Derrida wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:46 Mackus wrote:
Finally Thorzain vs Crank

This tournament has more downtime than MLG and that's nearing impossible


Huh? Do you realize that there are two streams? There's like 0 downtime.


I don't have the privilege of changing streams on a portable screen on the desk smaller than my head trying to do work


So the tournament doesnt have more downtime, you do?
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
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