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Lone Star Clash 2: $35k SC2 + LoL, Nov 10-11 in TX - Page 62

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Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
November 10 2012 18:15 GMT
#1221
On November 11 2012 03:09 Dodgin wrote:
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On November 11 2012 03:08 Fusilero wrote:
Sometimes I wonder how ret even wins...


Ret used to be like top 5 foreigners @_@

Realistically, he hasn't been one since release. At any point of the SC2 timeline, one can find five non-koreans who were better than Ret. The BlizzCon EU qualifiers were unfortunately nothing more than an accident.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:15:49
November 10 2012 18:15 GMT
#1222
On November 11 2012 03:14 Bluedraqy wrote:
I guess Stephano is using a wrong account, for as far as I know, he's with EG now :b

This is Blizzard. Oh, you want to change your pointless little irrelevant display name? Pay up or shut up.
SoulHarvester
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada151 Posts
November 10 2012 18:15 GMT
#1223
Ganzi's play was really sloppy...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
November 10 2012 18:15 GMT
#1224
Ganzi is such a good lad, yet another player that disproves the 'Koreans have no personality' myth. Also a seriously underrated player, shame about his wrists.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Demonidze
Profile Joined May 2012
194 Posts
November 10 2012 18:16 GMT
#1225
On November 11 2012 03:12 NeonFox wrote:
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On November 11 2012 03:10 PhoenixVoid wrote:
The way foreigners are playing today, I expect another top 4 Korean+Stephano quarter-finals x_x


Stephano is playing way below his usual skill level lately so I'm not even sure he'll be in those quarter finals :/


indeed
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 10 2012 18:16 GMT
#1226
On November 11 2012 03:15 TheBB wrote:
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On November 11 2012 03:04 WigglingSquid wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:01 Apom wrote:
On November 11 2012 02:57 Fionn wrote:
On November 11 2012 02:55 TheBB wrote:
Currently.
+ Show Spoiler +
Lone Star Clash 2

Most likely winners:
      Stephano: 40.554%
      viOLet: 34.816%
      Polt: 7.568%
      TheStC: 6.600%
      CranK: 5.300%
      Bomber: 3.960%
      BabyKnight: 0.518%
      Sheth: 0.224%
      Hawk: 0.170%
      ToD: 0.112%
      GanZi: 0.090%
      NaNiwa: 0.034%
      Ret: 0.026%
      Axslav: 0.014%
      ThorZaIN: 0.014%
      qxc: >0.000%

Life expectancy:
      Stephano: 5.562 rounds (top 2)
      viOLet: 5.101 rounds (top 3)
      Polt: 3.975 rounds (top 4)
      CranK: 3.694 rounds (top 4)
      TheStC: 3.001 rounds (top 6)
      Bomber: 2.688 rounds (top 6)
      Hawk: 1.881 rounds (top 8)
      BabyKnight: 1.845 rounds (top 8)
      GanZi: 1.817 rounds (top 8)
      NaNiwa: 1.294 rounds (top 12)
      Ret: 1.277 rounds (top 12)
      Sheth: 1.118 rounds (top 12)
      ToD: 1.027 rounds (top 12)
      ThorZaIN: 0.917 rounds (top 12)
      qxc: 0.491 rounds (top 16)
      Axslav: 0.311 rounds (top 16)


/me ducks


International ELO hasn't been updated in like two months.

What's up with that by the way ?

Most likely the same that's been going on with the LiquidBets. No automated system in place and a shortage of volunteers?

I'd be willing to volunteer, I'm just not sure where to sign. XD

you can start there: www.teamliquid.net/contactus.php
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
November 10 2012 18:16 GMT
#1227
Axslav is taking every measure to troll/block Stephano's expansions.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
November 10 2012 18:16 GMT
#1228
On November 11 2012 03:15 Apom wrote:
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On November 11 2012 03:09 Dodgin wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:08 Fusilero wrote:
Sometimes I wonder how ret even wins...


Ret used to be like top 5 foreigners @_@

Realistically, he hasn't been one since release. At any point of the SC2 timeline, one can find five non-koreans who were better than Ret. The BlizzCon EU qualifiers were unfortunately nothing more than an accident.

I think it's more a playstyle thing. I mean he drones so, so hard especially in ZvP. When he doesn't get punished he can just win games by A-moving and steamrolling, when he doesn't get such a huge lead I don't think he gets enough efficiency out of his army.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 10 2012 18:16 GMT
#1229
On November 11 2012 03:13 Acronysis wrote:
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On November 11 2012 03:12 Dodgin wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:11 DJHelium wrote:
Stephano vs Axslav looks like a masters vs a diamond, somehow the master just has more stuff. Stephano is totally on another level.

*edit* I think Axslavs best chance (only chance really) is a 36 probe 8 gate-attack.


Axslav has been casting like every event, doubt he practices enough to be on a pro level anymore. He was a last minute invite to replace Major.

It's to be expected that he will lose badly.


Not to mention, even pros who do practice everyday could look that pad against stephano PvZ =P, but i totally agree with you dodgin.


Not TT1. He gosu
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
November 10 2012 18:17 GMT
#1230
On November 11 2012 03:15 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:14 Bluedraqy wrote:
I guess Stephano is using a wrong account, for as far as I know, he's with EG now :b

This is Blizzard. Oh, you want to change your pointless little irrelevant display name? Pay up or shut up.

global play is (finally) coming
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
November 10 2012 18:17 GMT
#1231
On November 11 2012 03:13 Dodgin wrote:
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On November 11 2012 03:12 Rainfall7711 wrote:
The Twitch chat for both streams is utterly utterly disgusting childishly terrible. I can't believe i'm part of a community with people like that. So abusive, negative, hurtful. I'm ashamed.


Yep It's awful, just stay on TL and pretend twitch chat doesn't exist and you will have a better time.

Or if you wanna splurge, NASL subscriber only chat is the best in the business. Turns out the trolls don't really wanna spend money on it and the 12 year olds don't have credit cards <3
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
November 10 2012 18:17 GMT
#1232
On November 11 2012 03:17 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:15 WigglingSquid wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:14 Bluedraqy wrote:
I guess Stephano is using a wrong account, for as far as I know, he's with EG now :b

This is Blizzard. Oh, you want to change your pointless little irrelevant display name? Pay up or shut up.

global play is (finally) coming


soon.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
November 10 2012 18:18 GMT
#1233
Ret streamed 6 hours in October. GG
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 10 2012 18:18 GMT
#1234
Is it just me who hear a brrrrrr on the main stream
EZ4ENCE
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#1235
I feel like Axslav's builds are so outdated :/
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#1236
On November 11 2012 03:18 WindWolf wrote:
Is it just me who hear a brrrrrr on the main stream

Yes it is VERY annoying.
o choro é livre
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:20:31
November 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#1237
hero probe. XD

EDIT: hero probe didn't go into the main. T.T
blinken
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 18:20:14
November 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#1238
How does someone as utterly terrible as Axslav make it into a tournament with Stephano? Watching these games is a waste of time.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 10 2012 18:19 GMT
#1239
On November 11 2012 03:15 Apom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 03:09 Dodgin wrote:
On November 11 2012 03:08 Fusilero wrote:
Sometimes I wonder how ret even wins...


Ret used to be like top 5 foreigners @_@

Realistically, he hasn't been one since release. At any point of the SC2 timeline, one can find five non-koreans who were better than Ret. The BlizzCon EU qualifiers were unfortunately nothing more than an accident.


He was also slightly stronger earlier on because players hadn`t figured out his super heavy droning and let him get away with it. So his econ usually just gave him a big enough advantage. I think his style has been figured out for a long time now which is why he isn`t doing good at all anymore.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
November 10 2012 18:20 GMT
#1240
Well I don't think that anyone expected the opposite for this series.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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