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iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 12:33:07
November 03 2012 12:32 GMT
#861
On November 03 2012 21:24 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 21:22 iSunrise wrote:
On November 03 2012 21:21 PoP wrote:
Really disappointed in Stephano here. Warp prism sentry is soooooo obvious on this map with these positions.

Not sure what you mean, Stephano scouted it. It´s just extremely hard to hold of with the tech Stephano had.

He scouted robo, not the sentry+ramp block. He was like 1sec from getting 10-15 more lings into the main before first FF landed. That 1sec too late scout/reaction cost him the game.

Yeah, more lings in his base would´ve been enough to hold that off.
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
November 03 2012 12:32 GMT
#862
gogo Mana,im sure he practiced PvT a lot after his GSL ro32 death group,gogo!
Terrans
Decado
Profile Joined October 2012
United States42 Posts
November 03 2012 12:32 GMT
#863
"but guys guys, Stephano is Code S and a top 5 Zerg!"

Lmfao, don't make me laugh. EG sent Stephano to ESWC instead of MLG to maintain his reputation, as they knew he hadn't the slightest chance against world class players, and he STILL loses. I really hope this puts some of the insane Stephano fanboyism to rest.

Hell, he's what the 3rd or 4th best player here? and people can make good arguments that Nerchio is better than him anyway.
cristo el redentor
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
November 03 2012 12:32 GMT
#864
btw

Grand Final is gonna be played tomorrow or today ?
T H C makes ppl happy
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 03 2012 12:32 GMT
#865
Didnt ForGG just pretty much get invited to the tourny because they wanted Korean representaion and they cant/didnt want to hold a Korean qualifier? Now he gets 12/20k in the bank. Tough life :p
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 03 2012 12:33 GMT
#866
Stephano is [cursed]? :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
warzag
Profile Joined October 2011
France259 Posts
November 03 2012 12:34 GMT
#867
On November 03 2012 21:32 Sinedd wrote:
btw

Grand Final is gonna be played tomorrow or today ?


today, 17:30 CET
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
November 03 2012 12:34 GMT
#868
On November 03 2012 21:32 Decado wrote:
"but guys guys, Stephano is Code S and a top 5 Zerg!"

Lmfao, don't make me laugh. EG sent Stephano to ESWC instead of MLG to maintain his reputation, as they knew he hadn't the slightest chance against world class players, and he STILL loses. I really hope this puts some of the insane Stephano fanboyism to rest.

Hell, he's what the 3rd or 4th best player here? and people can make good arguments that Nerchio is better than him anyway.



He's n°1 in the world,but none can defeat the EG curse
Terrans
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
November 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#869
On November 03 2012 21:32 Decado wrote:
"but guys guys, Stephano is Code S and a top 5 Zerg!"

Lmfao, don't make me laugh. EG sent Stephano to ESWC instead of MLG to maintain his reputation, as they knew he hadn't the slightest chance against world class players, and he STILL loses. I really hope this puts some of the insane Stephano fanboyism to rest.

Hell, he's what the 3rd or 4th best player here? and people can make good arguments that Nerchio is better than him anyway.

Keep hatin', buddy!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#870
On November 03 2012 21:31 Vanadiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 21:27 iSunrise wrote:
On November 03 2012 21:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 03 2012 21:24 Kreb wrote:
On November 03 2012 21:22 iSunrise wrote:
On November 03 2012 21:21 PoP wrote:
Really disappointed in Stephano here. Warp prism sentry is soooooo obvious on this map with these positions.

Not sure what you mean, Stephano scouted it. It´s just extremely hard to hold of with the tech Stephano had.

He scouted robo, not the sentry+ramp block. He was like 1sec from getting 10-15 more lings into the main before first FF landed. That 1sec too late scout/reaction cost him the game.


Solution? Keep some units in your base if you scout robo but don't know what protoss produces first. That's literally all you need to do.

Yes, enough lings kill that easily.


But I think he really thought he was gonna do a 7 gates Immortal sentry, that's why he went for a double evo mass ling, and he get out with all his ling because he wanted to harass the army of sentry/immortel all the way from Mana's base to him to make jim uses his forcefield.


So he gambled and lost. There's no reason at all to assume it's immortal/sentry. And even if it was, there's still no reason at all not to keep lings in your base since warp prism all ins happen a lot earlier. There was absolutely no reason for Stephano's units to be out on the map. Mana baited them out by clearing the watchtowers with a stalker. That's the oldest trick in the book and Stephano should really know it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
November 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#871
On November 03 2012 21:32 Decado wrote:
"but guys guys, Stephano is Code S and a top 5 Zerg!"

Lmfao, don't make me laugh. EG sent Stephano to ESWC instead of MLG to maintain his reputation, as they knew he hadn't the slightest chance against world class players, and he STILL loses. I really hope this puts some of the insane Stephano fanboyism to rest.

Hell, he's what the 3rd or 4th best player here? and people can make good arguments that Nerchio is better than him anyway.


You're a mad guy.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#872
I remember when I was mocked for saying that the french amateur scene was one of the best in EU. Well there you have it boys. This and the fact that patchzerg isn't a thing anymore. Now it's foreign zerg who are clearly competing on the same level as Code A koreans.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 03 2012 12:38 GMT
#873
On November 03 2012 21:31 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 21:30 Boucot wrote:
Neoangel who will take the 4th place will be the most disappointed guy of SC2 history. 0$ vs 8,000$ for the 3rd. This sharing is awful.


Fixed for you. :D

Yeah but today's Stephano is one of the worst I've seen from him so... (and Neo has a very good PvZ)
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
November 03 2012 12:38 GMT
#874
On November 03 2012 21:35 Otolia wrote:
I remember when I was mocked for saying that the french amateur scene was one of the best in EU. Well there you have it boys. This and the fact that patchzerg isn't a thing anymore. Now it's foreign zerg who are clearly competing on the same level as Code A koreans.

What other frenchman is even close to Stephano's level?
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
November 03 2012 12:39 GMT
#875
When is the next game? Can't find it anywhere, am I just dumb?
We know nothing.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 03 2012 12:40 GMT
#876
On November 03 2012 21:38 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 21:35 Otolia wrote:
I remember when I was mocked for saying that the french amateur scene was one of the best in EU. Well there you have it boys. This and the fact that patchzerg isn't a thing anymore. Now it's foreign zerg who are clearly competing on the same level as Code A koreans.

What other frenchman is even close to Stephano's level?

Nobody is. However MiNaMaTh and NeOAnGeL pulled through the groups and one reached the semifinals. That's a good result for both of them.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 12:44:19
November 03 2012 12:42 GMT
#877
On November 03 2012 21:35 Otolia wrote:
I remember when I was mocked for saying that the french amateur scene was one of the best in EU. Well there you have it boys. This and the fact that patchzerg isn't a thing anymore. Now it's foreign zerg who are clearly competing on the same level as Code A koreans.


This is ESWC. The only French Zergs that were in the playoffs are Minimath and Stephano. The only player to beat a Code A Korean was SortOf, a Swedish patch Zerg. I agree the Swedish scene is very strong.

Edit: I suppose you were referring to Neoangel. My bad :o. I didn't realize it was two different thoughts.
Never make a hydralisk.
bOneSeven
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Romania685 Posts
November 03 2012 12:46 GMT
#878
This ESWC is so random... Tomikus > Mana but Mana >Targa, Stephano / SortOf > Squirtle but then NeOAngeL > SortOf / .... And the failure that were NightEnD and Dimaga....
Planet earth is blue and there's nothing I can do
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 03 2012 12:50 GMT
#879
On November 03 2012 21:42 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 21:35 Otolia wrote:
I remember when I was mocked for saying that the french amateur scene was one of the best in EU. Well there you have it boys. This and the fact that patchzerg isn't a thing anymore. Now it's foreign zerg who are clearly competing on the same level as Code A koreans.


This is ESWC. The only French Zergs that were in the playoffs are Minimath and Stephano. The only player to beat a Code A Korean was SortOf, a Swedish patch Zerg. I agree the Swedish scene is very strong.

Edit: I suppose you were referring to Neoangel. My bad :o. I didn't realize it was two different thoughts.

I my opinion for pro scene it goes like this : Sweden > Ukraine > Russia > Germany > Finland > France (just Stephano, Feast, Adel and Dayshi) = rest of EU but for Amateur scene it's Sweden > Germany > Russia > France > Rest of EU.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 03 2012 12:51 GMT
#880
Anyway Mana now the second best foreigner in terms of earnings If he wins the whole thing he will be actually before Hero.
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