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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
November 03 2012 11:54 GMT
#741
On November 03 2012 20:52 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 20:50 Tsubbi wrote:
stephano not expecting 2 robo collossus 3 base allin at all, was preparing for splitmap situation with double spire etc

wp by mana though, really nice and with entombed left, he could do it

"3 bases all-in", oh god this is getting funnier and funnier


he himself would call this build 3 base allin, but whatever, not the point
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
November 03 2012 11:54 GMT
#742
On November 03 2012 20:52 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 20:50 Tsubbi wrote:
stephano not expecting 2 robo collossus 3 base allin at all, was preparing for splitmap situation with double spire etc

wp by mana though, really nice and with entombed left, he could do it

"3 bases all-in", oh god this is getting funnier and funnier

It is allin. The toss has no mothership tech and no 4th base, it's designed to kill the zerg before or during the bl morph
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
November 03 2012 11:56 GMT
#743
Kaelaris's stream is unwatchable, but the French one works fine (sound engineering is not at its best but I'll live with it).
Decado
Profile Joined October 2012
United States42 Posts
November 03 2012 11:56 GMT
#744
On November 03 2012 20:54 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 20:52 Lylat wrote:
On November 03 2012 20:50 Tsubbi wrote:
stephano not expecting 2 robo collossus 3 base allin at all, was preparing for splitmap situation with double spire etc

wp by mana though, really nice and with entombed left, he could do it

"3 bases all-in", oh god this is getting funnier and funnier

It is allin. The toss has no mothership tech and no 4th base, it's designed to kill the zerg before or during the bl morph



Every Toss build is all in. Sage showed today just how god awful carriers are vs mass infestor.
cristo el redentor
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 03 2012 11:57 GMT
#745
This map is going to be brutal for Mana, Stephano already way ahead.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#746
On November 03 2012 20:56 Apom wrote:
Kaelaris's stream is unwatchable, but the French one works fine (sound engineering is not at its best but I'll live with it).

Yeah, had the exact same problem. For some reason I can watch the Kaelaris stream with Chrome without lag now.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
November 03 2012 11:59 GMT
#747
On November 03 2012 20:53 Nick3 wrote:
Who is NeoAngel and how did he beat SortOf, cheese?


it is way more disappointing that squirtle lost to sortof :/ he is really not that good in foreign tournament as one would expect from him.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#748
On November 03 2012 20:54 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 20:52 Lylat wrote:
On November 03 2012 20:50 Tsubbi wrote:
stephano not expecting 2 robo collossus 3 base allin at all, was preparing for splitmap situation with double spire etc

wp by mana though, really nice and with entombed left, he could do it

"3 bases all-in", oh god this is getting funnier and funnier

It is allin. The toss has no mothership tech and no 4th base, it's designed to kill the zerg before or during the bl morph

Then a timing push doesn't exist anymore ? It has to be an all-in ?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 12:02:00
November 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#749
Why the fuck did MaNa attack there after killing the fourth?
On November 03 2012 21:00 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 20:54 MangoMountain wrote:
On November 03 2012 20:52 Lylat wrote:
On November 03 2012 20:50 Tsubbi wrote:
stephano not expecting 2 robo collossus 3 base allin at all, was preparing for splitmap situation with double spire etc

wp by mana though, really nice and with entombed left, he could do it

"3 bases all-in", oh god this is getting funnier and funnier

It is allin. The toss has no mothership tech and no 4th base, it's designed to kill the zerg before or during the bl morph

Then a timing push doesn't exist anymore ? It has to be an all-in ?

It's an all-in if you have to kill him there and then or you're dead. Doesn't mean it can't be a timing attack, too.
An2quamaraN
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland379 Posts
November 03 2012 12:01 GMT
#750
seen too many times not to know where it's going Mana needs AoE and mothership fast, otherwise he can just gg
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
November 03 2012 12:01 GMT
#751
Strange, earlier all streams were ok for me, but now it's practically a slideshow regardless of the quality level.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 03 2012 12:01 GMT
#752
On November 03 2012 21:00 StarVe wrote:
Why the fuck did MaNa attack there after killing the fourth?

For a moment it seemed like it is a good idea, Stephano had way too many lings, though.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 03 2012 12:02 GMT
#753
On November 03 2012 20:53 Nick3 wrote:
Who is NeoAngel and how did he beat SortOf, cheese?

No, high tech vs low tech.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
November 03 2012 12:03 GMT
#754
On November 03 2012 21:01 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 21:00 StarVe wrote:
Why the fuck did MaNa attack there after killing the fourth?

For a moment it seemed like it is a good idea, Stephano had way too many lings, though.

His FF were bad/Stephano was too quick for him . And he had no tech so he didn't have much choice .
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
November 03 2012 12:03 GMT
#755
On November 03 2012 21:00 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 20:54 MangoMountain wrote:
On November 03 2012 20:52 Lylat wrote:
On November 03 2012 20:50 Tsubbi wrote:
stephano not expecting 2 robo collossus 3 base allin at all, was preparing for splitmap situation with double spire etc

wp by mana though, really nice and with entombed left, he could do it

"3 bases all-in", oh god this is getting funnier and funnier

It is allin. The toss has no mothership tech and no 4th base, it's designed to kill the zerg before or during the bl morph

Then a timing push doesn't exist anymore ? It has to be an all-in ?

A timing push can be an all-in too, the two terms aren't mutually exclusive
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
November 03 2012 12:03 GMT
#756
On November 03 2012 20:53 Nick3 wrote:
Who is NeoAngel and how did he beat SortOf, cheese?

He's one of those French players you mostly never hear of internationally, but he has a lot of results in French LANs.

Anyway they played 3 macro games. SortOf didn't play too well and it felt like he was better but Neoangel played well as well., In the 3rd game he thought he spotted some 2base all in and canceled his lair, ended being a 3 base toss vs 3 base zerg who had just ling roach..
He killed a lot of colossi and held really well for a long time but eventually without tech and upgrades NeoAngel won.
Liquipedia
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
November 03 2012 12:07 GMT
#757
ouch worst neural vortex ive ever seen
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 03 2012 12:07 GMT
#758
oh god that neural

how did that even happen rofl
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 03 2012 12:07 GMT
#759
That was brutal
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 03 2012 12:07 GMT
#760
Oh Stephano
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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