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[IPTL] Acer vs FXO - Contender Group A

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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 01:43:56
September 27 2012 17:00 GMT
#1
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The time has come for the Contender group matches of the IGN Pro Team League!


Group A Schedule: Acer vs aTn Type - September 13
compLexity vs FXO - September 20
Acer vs FXO - September 27
aTn Type vs compLexity - October 4
FXO vs aTn Type - October 11
Acer vs compLexity - October 18


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When: Thursday, Sep 27 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)



Format

Contender Division Group A is made up of four teams: Acer, aTn Type, compLexity, and FXO. Group B contains NSHoSeo, Empire, Karont3, and Dignitas. Both groups will play round robin against each other team in their group. When group stages are over, the top two teams from each Group will play against the bottom two from each Premier Group for a chance to enter that division! The bottom 2 teams from each Contender Group automatically fall to the Amateur Division and their spots are taken by our top performing Amateur teams.




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Acer
Bly
DarkHydra
Nerchio
ParanOid
Scarlett

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FXO
asd
Choya
GuMiho
JKS
Leenock
Lucky
Sirius
TheBest
Tree
Weekend
kAsyu
Tear
Supreme
VoidRay
Whale
Kong


The First Game of the IPTL Contender Division Group A is on Thursday, Sep 27 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also rebroadcast repeatedly afterwards!)


Poll: Who Will Win?!

FXO (18)
 
53%

Acer (16)
 
47%

34 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?!

(Vote): Acer
(Vote): FXO




Results!

+ Show Spoiler [Acer vs FXO Results] +
Bly < Whirlwind > Choya
DarkHydra < Cloud Kingdom > Choya
Nerchio < Ohana > Choya
Nerchio < Entombed Valley > Tear
Nerchio < Daybreak > TheBest
ParanOid < Metropolis > TheBest
ParanOid < > GuMiho
Scarlett < Antiga Shipyard > GuMiho



Map List

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IPLMap Atlantis Spaceship
IPLMap Antiga Shipyard
IPLMap Daybreak
IPLMap Whirlwind
IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
IPLMap Metropolis
IPLMap Ohana
IPLMap Entombed Valley

The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.



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Today's games will be commentated by Kevin Knocke and Frank Fields!



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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 27 2012 17:03 GMT
#2
I think FXO will take it, but Acer has a good chance to take some games with Scarlett and Nerchio.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
September 27 2012 17:04 GMT
#3
On September 28 2012 02:03 SHOOG wrote:
I think FXO will take it, but Acer has a good chance to take some games with Scarlett and Nerchio.

Tear all kill incoming
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 27 2012 17:06 GMT
#4
I love that the reigning GSTL champions are in the contender division. :D
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
September 27 2012 17:08 GMT
#5
OH RIGHT! It's THAT FXO. This almost forgot just how awesome this matchup is. ACER FIGHTING!!!!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
September 27 2012 20:47 GMT
#6
These are the two teams that are going to advance from the group methinks so should be a great series. FXO probably takes it, but I'll be rooting for Acer! Gogo Scarlett! <3
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 27 2012 22:11 GMT
#7
Who is FXO's vZ specialist to look out for?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 27 2012 22:18 GMT
#8
On September 28 2012 07:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Who is FXO's vZ specialist to look out for?

Both Gumiho and Tear have vZ as their arguably best matchup.
Will be very difficult for Acer to take both out.
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 27 2012 22:25 GMT
#9
On September 28 2012 07:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Who is FXO's vZ specialist to look out for?

Probably Tear who is imo where be a future GSL champion.
Life: The New Champion!!
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
September 27 2012 22:28 GMT
#10
o boy, poor Acer~gl&hf
as1
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 27 2012 22:31 GMT
#11
Nerchio should get at least a couple of kills, dunno about the rest, if they step up their game, Acer could surprise once again.
Takasu
Profile Joined May 2011
United States63 Posts
September 27 2012 22:42 GMT
#12
I see FXO winning, but Acer could surprise us. Depends on whether or not bly, scarlett, and the others can take a game or two. I can see nerchio winning at least 2 matches.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 27 2012 22:46 GMT
#13
Close match. I voted Acer but it really could go either way.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
September 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#14
On September 28 2012 07:46 Boucot wrote:
Close match. I voted Acer but it really could go either way.


You must be on crack.

Choya all-kill inc.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#15
gogo fxo!
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2012 23:05 GMT
#16
CHOYA ALL KILL!
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IhateBunkers
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand78 Posts
September 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#17
This in theory should be a walk over with FXO being the current GSTL champions. I hope that Acer isn't all killed by Gumiho
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 23:13:13
September 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#18
I think Acer will give FXO a good run but their lack of race diversity will be their downfall. I expect Tear to do pretty well today

edit: oh wait Choya starter. Choya all kill. He's too strong :D!
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#19
On September 28 2012 08:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think Acer will give FXO a good run but their lack of race diversity will be their downfall. I expect Tear to do pretty well today

edit: oh wait Choya starter. Choya all kill. He's too strong :D!

This isn't complexity.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#20
On September 28 2012 08:16 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 08:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I think Acer will give FXO a good run but their lack of race diversity will be their downfall. I expect Tear to do pretty well today

edit: oh wait Choya starter. Choya all kill. He's too strong :D!

This isn't complexity.

Yea you're right. No Korean for Acer to stop Choya
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#21
Ouch. Rough start for Acer.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#22
I have faith in team zerg.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
September 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#23
Go Choya!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 23:26 GMT
#24
Wait Darkhydra is zerg now?
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ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
September 27 2012 23:28 GMT
#25
Choya is brilliant, coaching and cleaning up noobs.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#26
Did I dream or DarkHydra was terran before ?
I remember laughing because the only non zerg player of Acer was named like a zerg.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#27
On September 28 2012 08:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wait Darkhydra is zerg now?

Yup, everyone is Zerg on Acer. He switched recently, he's probably not that good yet.

Choya is so predictable with his DTs. :D
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#28
Jesus, is that you?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#29
Hahahaha...... Acer zerg gonna have nightmare about DTs
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Darion
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada265 Posts
September 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#30
I missed the first game, did Bly lose to DTs as well?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#31
Yup
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
September 27 2012 23:33 GMT
#32
Holy CHoya
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 27 2012 23:35 GMT
#33
I just love the fact that Choya is FXO coach.
In my mind I always imagine all the players around him, waiting to chose who he will send in teamleagues. And then " Buzz off, I'm sending myself ! "
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 23:35 GMT
#34
On September 28 2012 08:32 Darion wrote:
I missed the first game, did Bly lose to DTs as well?

DTs killed one base while sentry drops killed the main from the bit I watched
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 27 2012 23:40 GMT
#35
What I learned while watching first two games ->

1. Use 2 lings to scout expansions all the time (waypoint).
2. If you don't see tech that might kill you, beware it might be still there.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 27 2012 23:41 GMT
#36
Nerchio better get to work. Godspeed.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2012 23:42 GMT
#37
On September 28 2012 08:32 Darion wrote:
I missed the first game, did Bly lose to DTs as well?


Bly tried to get in with lings due to proxy hatch at wall in, but Choya blocked it off with hold pos probes+cannon.

Choya then got hidden expo while Bly was trying to catch up, then went 12 gate (I think) and DT, sniping third with DT and going into main with sentry+zealot. Meanwhile taking his 4th (normally 3rd) and just attacked with 2 colossus and gateway units.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 27 2012 23:43 GMT
#38
Does Nerchio ever not get lings into a Protoss base?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2012 23:46 GMT
#39
Can't believe Choya didn't move stalkers behind third before dropping it, just checking for lings.
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Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
September 27 2012 23:55 GMT
#40
XD Atleast Choya is good at bringing out the aces XD
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 27 2012 23:56 GMT
#41
Foreign Zerg > Korean Protoss, Nerchio will beat Tear. =p
Ma
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom92 Posts
September 28 2012 00:00 GMT
#42
my prediction is that nerchio tears through this protoss
Taeja, Hero, MVP, Grubby, Polt, MKP FIGHTING
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 28 2012 00:08 GMT
#43
That's probably the worse place to put a Spire.
Ever.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
September 28 2012 00:12 GMT
#44
brilliant nexus snipe by nerkio
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 28 2012 00:14 GMT
#45
What a bad engagement from Tear...
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 28 2012 00:15 GMT
#46
Tear letting me down
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 28 2012 00:16 GMT
#47
Broodlords are boring D:
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 28 2012 00:18 GMT
#48
Yawn, no more PvZ. That matchup has become so stale and boring.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 28 2012 00:18 GMT
#49
Smart nexus snipe/ ling runby, but the terrible engagement by Tear at the end made it not very exciting.

TheBest is literally the best. No chance for Nerchio, gg Acer. :D
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
September 28 2012 00:22 GMT
#50
Really enjoying the addition of the Monstercat tracks during the ads.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
September 28 2012 00:23 GMT
#51
How the heck does everyone know that BitbyBit's coming back -__-;;
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 28 2012 00:23 GMT
#52
On September 28 2012 09:23 SeeKeR wrote:
How the heck does everyone know that BitbyBit's coming back -__-;;


hes coming back? O.O ... source?
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 28 2012 00:26 GMT
#53
With Nerchio on a roll and Scarlett waiting in the wings, Acer is really scary lately O.O
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 00:31:24
September 28 2012 00:29 GMT
#54
On September 28 2012 09:23 SeeKeR wrote:
How the heck does everyone know that BitbyBit's coming back -__-;;

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10ipnp/bitbybitprime_returns_to_progaming/
It got to like the top post on reddit, you made it big.

On September 28 2012 09:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
With Nerchio on a roll and Scarlett waiting in the wings, Acer is really scary lately O.O

Two good players shouldn't be enough against a good Korean team, though.
Unless Bly gets some kills as well, Acer should always fall short against the top tier teams.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 28 2012 00:32 GMT
#55
C'mon Nerchio I hope you can take this.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 28 2012 00:34 GMT
#56
On September 28 2012 09:23 SeeKeR wrote:
How the heck does everyone know that BitbyBit's coming back -__-;;


MKP said it.
You might have done the translation of it btw lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
September 28 2012 00:36 GMT
#57
On September 28 2012 09:29 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:23 SeeKeR wrote:
How the heck does everyone know that BitbyBit's coming back -__-;;

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/10ipnp/bitbybitprime_returns_to_progaming/
It got to like the top post on reddit, you made it big.

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
With Nerchio on a roll and Scarlett waiting in the wings, Acer is really scary lately O.O

Two good players shouldn't be enough against a good Korean team, though.
Unless Bly gets some kills as well, Acer should always fall short against the top tier teams.

Oo;;

I did not know this. AWESOME!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#58
*Facepalm*
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#59
lol :D
Give thanks and praise!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#60
lol
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#61
mech is so retarded
subV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#62
Haha what?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#63
"lol"

instead of gg...

HURRY! SOMEONE MAKE A THREAD ON TL! MORE DRAMA!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#64
Nerchio ... what a jerk. I always hated him.
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#65
lol. nerchio definitely should've won that
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 28 2012 00:39 GMT
#66
LOL
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vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
September 28 2012 00:40 GMT
#67
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 28 2012 00:41 GMT
#68
Nerchio just lost an unloseable game, that's it.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 28 2012 00:42 GMT
#69
Excellent, excellent!
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#70
lol whining haha
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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#71
On September 28 2012 09:40 vilg wrote:
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty


you do understand how much better thebest is than Nerchio right? Go watch some of his stream vods. He has very good mechanics and mechs every TvZ, beating some of the best Zergs in the world. Nerchio played badly and lost to a superior player.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 28 2012 00:45 GMT
#72
What did Nerchio say? I missed it
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vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
September 28 2012 00:46 GMT
#73
On September 28 2012 09:44 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:40 vilg wrote:
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty


you do understand how much better thebest is than Nerchio right? Go watch some of his stream vods. He has very good mechanics and mechs every TvZ, beating some of the best Zergs in the world. Nerchio played badly and lost to a superior player.


lol
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
September 28 2012 00:46 GMT
#74
On September 28 2012 09:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What did Nerchio say? I missed it

He just said "lol" without a gg and left the game.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
September 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#75
On September 28 2012 09:44 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:40 vilg wrote:
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty


you do understand how much better thebest is than Nerchio right? Go watch some of his stream vods. He has very good mechanics and mechs every TvZ, beating some of the best Zergs in the world. Nerchio played badly and lost to a superior player.


losing like all his workers and then a-moving out of desperation isnt exactly impressive.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 00:49:17
September 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#76
Oh god TheBest making banshees. I'm ready
edit* I missed the last game but if you guys are saying he mechs every time i missed thebest banshees vs nerchio
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#77
On September 28 2012 09:47 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:44 xrapture wrote:
On September 28 2012 09:40 vilg wrote:
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty


you do understand how much better thebest is than Nerchio right? Go watch some of his stream vods. He has very good mechanics and mechs every TvZ, beating some of the best Zergs in the world. Nerchio played badly and lost to a superior player.


losing like all his workers and then a-moving out of desperation isnt exactly impressive.

just goes to show how much better he is then!
lose all workers and still win games
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 28 2012 00:52 GMT
#78
Does it matter? If he was playing better then he wouldn't have lost.
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krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 00:55:16
September 28 2012 00:54 GMT
#79
On September 28 2012 09:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Does it matter? If he was playing better then he wouldn't have lost.


of course nerchio played pretty badly, but declaring thebest to a savior as a result is inaproppriate to be honest.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#80
On September 28 2012 09:54 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Does it matter? If he was playing better then he wouldn't have lost.


of course nerchio played pretty badly, but declaring thebest to a savior as a result is inaproppriate to be honest.


Taking everything xrapture says seriously will lead you to an early grave.
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vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
September 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#81
TheBest is an amazing mech tvz player, they said

>gets utterly molested by paranoid

well well well
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#82
On September 28 2012 09:44 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:40 vilg wrote:
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty


you do understand how much better thebest is than Nerchio right? Go watch some of his stream vods. He has very good mechanics and mechs every TvZ, beating some of the best Zergs in the world. Nerchio played badly and lost to a superior player.

Can someone tell me if this guy is trolling or serious?
Because I honestly cant tell.
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Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
September 28 2012 00:58 GMT
#83
On September 28 2012 09:57 vilg wrote:
TheBest is an amazing mech tvz player, they said

>gets utterly molested by paranoid

well well well


You do understand how much better paranoid is than thebest, right? Thebest played badly and lost to a superior player.


corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
September 28 2012 00:59 GMT
#84
On September 28 2012 09:57 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 09:44 xrapture wrote:
On September 28 2012 09:40 vilg wrote:
utterly disgusting that nerchio can lose that game, thebest could not keep up in any form and ends up winning by amove thors
I didn't think tvz wins could be undeserved anymore but jesus christ that was not pretty


you do understand how much better thebest is than Nerchio right? Go watch some of his stream vods. He has very good mechanics and mechs every TvZ, beating some of the best Zergs in the world. Nerchio played badly and lost to a superior player.

Can someone tell me if this guy is trolling or serious?
Because I honestly cant tell.


He's always trolling.

ALWAYS.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 28 2012 01:00 GMT
#85
Paranoid managed to do what Nerchio could not? What alternate universe is this?

Well done. ^_______^
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vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
September 28 2012 01:00 GMT
#86
^ :D

trolling aside, I think FXO has this if they play their big guns.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#87
On September 28 2012 09:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Does it matter? If he was playing better then he wouldn't have lost.

Some people in this morning's GSL LR thread would've disagreed. =p
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 01:10:51
September 28 2012 01:08 GMT
#88
On September 28 2012 10:00 vilg wrote:
^ :D

trolling aside, I think FXO has this if they play their big guns.


Dunno.
I can definitly see scarlet beating Gumiho and Leenock Oo

Edit : Can I repeat myself and say that it's fucking boring that everyone is going Mech in TvZ right now?
Give me marinetank back...
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 01:18:05
September 28 2012 01:12 GMT
#89
On September 28 2012 10:08 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 10:00 vilg wrote:
^ :D

trolling aside, I think FXO has this if they play their big guns.


Dunno.
I can definitly see scarlet beating Gumiho and Leenock Oo

Edit : Can I repeat myself and say that it's fucking boring that everyone is going Mech in TvZ right now?
Give me marinetank back...

I feel the same way. I miss a little bio-mech play.

Although I hate a lot of ZvZ's 200/200 NR games, so I just think some match-ups are staling out now. Hopefully changes for HOTS.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 28 2012 01:14 GMT
#90
On September 28 2012 10:08 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 10:00 vilg wrote:
^ :D

trolling aside, I think FXO has this if they play their big guns.


Dunno.
I can definitly see scarlet beating Gumiho and Leenock Oo

Edit : Can I repeat myself and say that it's fucking boring that everyone is going Mech in TvZ right now?
Give me marinetank back...


as riveting as broodlords and infestors or Ultras are, mech is just a more solid and safe way for Terrans to play against them.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 28 2012 01:15 GMT
#91
On September 28 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 10:08 Noocta wrote:
On September 28 2012 10:00 vilg wrote:
^ :D

trolling aside, I think FXO has this if they play their big guns.


Dunno.
I can definitly see scarlet beating Gumiho and Leenock Oo

Edit : Can I repeat myself and say that it's fucking boring that everyone is going Mech in TvZ right now?
Give me marinetank back...


as riveting as broodlords and infestors or Ultras are, mech is just a more solid and safe way for Terrans to play against them.


And a more boring one.
I like my TvZ with lots of army trading / movement on the map / harassement / army control.
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 28 2012 01:18 GMT
#92
Mass Thors is so fucking annoying to face. I lost to a diamond player with 20 apm because all he did was build thors and hellions and attacked before I got hive. -_-
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
September 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#93
On September 28 2012 10:18 Doubting wrote:
Mass Thors is so fucking annoying to face. I lost to a diamond player with 20 apm because all he did was build thors and hellions and attacked before I got hive. -_-


Sounds like that's completely your fault.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
September 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#94
OMFG PARANOID!!! SICK SICK SICK ENGAGEMENT!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#95
Sigh...

Gumiho with the horrible engagement.
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#96
wow huge play from paranoid
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 01:21:13
September 28 2012 01:19 GMT
#97
Damn, ParanOid is giving GuMiho one hell of a beating.

GuMiho still mining way more than ParanOid though.
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 28 2012 01:20 GMT
#98
Neural is pretty good vs mass thor
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 28 2012 01:20 GMT
#99
Is Paranoid the next zerg bonjwa ?
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 28 2012 01:21 GMT
#100
Good lord Paranoid, get a spire o0.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
September 28 2012 01:21 GMT
#101
Euro hobby zergs beating korean terrans that practice 8+ hours a day on a regular basis.

Fucking sickening.

User was temp banned for this post.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 28 2012 01:22 GMT
#102
See seven banshees, build more ultras.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
September 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#103
On September 28 2012 10:19 TheDougler wrote:
OMFG PARANOID!!! SICK SICK SICK ENGAGEMENT!


Awe... Paranoid...

That was still just the sickest engagement I've seen in months but wasn't enough.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
September 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#104
Aaaand that is why a Spire is needed against late game Mech.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#105
Well, no spire at 31 minutes is a really bad idea.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 28 2012 01:24 GMT
#106
Ultra's to counter everything ye great plan. GG
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 28 2012 01:26 GMT
#107
This game brings me back. Zerg player plays great and gets in good lead then blows it by massing ultras :p
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
September 28 2012 01:26 GMT
#108
Can't believe how much Paranoid threw that one away. That was definitely his game to lose, and he did it.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
September 28 2012 01:27 GMT
#109
I never understand when people see tank/hellion/banshee and still don't get a spire. Stephano did the same against Lucifron at WCS Europe, but if you're going to rely on infestors for anti air against 4 port cloak banshee you better have Stephano's multitask.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 28 2012 01:33 GMT
#110
C'mon Scarlett! Beat the Towel Terran!
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
September 28 2012 01:37 GMT
#111
Bad time to just realize that GuMiho was going Mech, when only Ling/Bane/Infestor is on the map.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 28 2012 01:37 GMT
#112
GuMiHo playing monobattle.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 28 2012 01:38 GMT
#113
It's like Gumiho is playing a monobattle with Helions.
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krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
September 28 2012 01:39 GMT
#114
Is it just me, or is there a hole in the wall at the third?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#115
Well grats to FXO !
redc
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia81 Posts
September 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#116
gg FXO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#117
Grats FXO!
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
September 28 2012 01:45 GMT
#118
Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 01:46:49
September 28 2012 01:45 GMT
#119
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
September 28 2012 01:47 GMT
#120
FXO wins! But a great fight put up by Acer I got to say
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Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
September 28 2012 01:48 GMT
#121
gg wp FXO
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 28 2012 01:49 GMT
#122
TheBest is so great at sc2. I loved his ST run
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MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
September 28 2012 01:51 GMT
#123
On September 28 2012 10:45 Dexington wrote:
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Show nested quote +
Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO


Oh man.. Did you see those games at least? don't tell me who won, I just want you to know that Titan vs Scarlett was a BO win battle that she almost got through by playing really fucking great. vs TLO was just a horrible performance, a really off performance that doesn't say anything about her current play.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 28 2012 01:52 GMT
#124
On September 28 2012 10:45 Dexington wrote:
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Show nested quote +
Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO

She beat Hero and slivko in the RSL.
She is neither winning everything vs non-NA players nor losing.
Almost every zerg is using heavy infestor/ling into broods.

Just don't judge much on one game vs fucking Gumiho and let her play some more.
I agree that NA only isnt a great base to evaluate a player.
Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
September 28 2012 01:53 GMT
#125
On September 28 2012 10:45 Dexington wrote:
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Show nested quote +
Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO


I mean she also beat sLivko and Hero recently, two players better in those respective races. As a big fan I do believe she plays somewhat one-dimensional against terrans though and when she plays Korean terrans it becomes obvious. She needs more experience against high level terran play.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 28 2012 01:54 GMT
#126
On September 28 2012 10:45 Dexington wrote:
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Show nested quote +
Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO



She beat Bumblebeeprime (who's that? don't ask me) at IPTL, and beat some NA players to win WCS (over 100 Koreans could do this and so could dozens of Europeans), and is suddenly hyped to be one of the best foreign Zergs. Her play is frankly underwhelming and I wish people would stop hyping her up so much and just enjoy her games because they are going to find themselves disappointed.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 28 2012 02:08 GMT
#127
Wow so many votes for Acer, guess its to be expected at this point from foreign fans...

One does not simply beat the defending GSTL champions. Seems like FXO can climb their way into the premier league quite easily as expected, and without using Leenock too (atleast I'm assuming they haven't used him in this yet, dunno). Sad no Choya all-kill today though.
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 28 2012 02:10 GMT
#128
On September 28 2012 10:54 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 10:45 Dexington wrote:
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO



She beat Bumblebeeprime (who's that? don't ask me) at IPTL, and beat some NA players to win WCS (over 100 Koreans could do this and so could dozens of Europeans), and is suddenly hyped to be one of the best foreign Zergs. Her play is frankly underwhelming and I wish people would stop hyping her up so much and just enjoy her games because they are going to find themselves disappointed.

She won WCS NA not just beating but destroying all the best players in NA without losing a map. She played amazing for Acer at the last IPTL. Creator, fucking Creator called her one of the only foreign players that can compete with koreans. The hype is justified at least for now. She needs more experience and I think she can compete with not just the best foreign players but Koreans as well.
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
September 28 2012 02:29 GMT
#129
On September 28 2012 10:51 MetalPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 10:45 Dexington wrote:
Why wouldn't they save Nerchio for their ace?

Don't want to sound like a hater, but to me, Scarlett's playstyle is so one-dimensional: Infestor/Ling into Brood Lords is basically the only strategy I've seen her do recently, and I have always felt the hype train for her was severely overrated. Sure, she won WCS Canada, but against NA players, not experienced Koreans or Europeans.


Agreed entirely. You see her play in the EG MCS and it's very underwhelming. Losing to Titan and TLO


Oh man.. Did you see those games at least? don't tell me who won, I just want you to know that Titan vs Scarlett was a BO win battle that she almost got through by playing really fucking great. vs TLO was just a horrible performance, a really off performance that doesn't say anything about her current play.


Game 3 against Titan though she got absolutely crushed. And honestly, top end pros shouldn't be losing to TLO these days.
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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
September 28 2012 03:10 GMT
#130
As expected. I'm surprised they even used Gumiho. Should've sent out another B-teamer to get some experience.
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FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
September 28 2012 14:39 GMT
#131
On September 28 2012 12:10 NoGasfOu wrote:
As expected. I'm surprised they even used Gumiho. Should've sent out another B-teamer to get some experience.


Sometimes b teamers are a good idea but not in this case, It's one thing to be confident but another to be arrogant. You must give scarlett/nerchio the respect they deserve, gumiho/leenock are the players we would use in any situation like this
FXOUnstable
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
September 28 2012 14:42 GMT
#132
Was hoping acer would win lol
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia814 Posts
September 28 2012 15:28 GMT
#133
fxo gg
.lets get weird
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 16:02:25
September 28 2012 16:02 GMT
#134
well honestly it was much closer than I expected considering both paranoid and nerchio couldve won their games easily.
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