The time has come for our thirty-fourth IGN Pro League Fight Club! This is a weekly king of the hill showmatch series. Basically, there will be a 1 vs. 1 best of 9 showmatch each and every week, where the winner will earn a $500 prize and a $100 bounty on their head. For example, if a player wins three weeks in a row they will have earned $1,500 and a $300 bounty. If a NEW challenger defeats him, they will earn $500 for the showmatch, take the $300 bounty home, and have a new $100 bounty placed on their head for each week that they win.
When: Monday, Sep 24 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also broadcast the match repeatedly afterwards!)
TSL's HyuN is basically just unstoppable at this point, winning six weeks straight against amazing opponents including our IPL4 winner, aLive, and the IPL4 runner-up, Squirtle. This week, ROXKIS.Titan is stepping up to the plate to take a swing at the $500 prize and $600 bounty of TSL.HyuN!
Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ. Please just give us a mirror matchup!
Right now it's been
ZvP ZvT ZvP ZvP ZvP ZvT ZvP
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Ever since Doa left IPTL has been here there and everywhere with scheduling and casters. It's such a shame because TAC3 was entertaining to watch every night during the week.
Last time HyuN and TitaN met, HyuN won 3-2, but now that HyuN has improved by leaps and bounds and TitaN has not been anything but average, I fail to see how HyuN can lose this.
HyuN 5-2, but don't be surprised to see a more one-sided score.
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ. Please just give us a mirror matchup!
Lol by definition most zergs worst matchup cannot be ZvZ. Unless of course, a majority of zerg players are above 50% in ZvP and ZvT, but I highly doubt that. However, in this case, HyuN's worst matchup may be ZvZ. TLPD and a majority of posters seem to think so.
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ. Please just give us a mirror matchup!
Lol by definition most zergs worst matchup cannot be ZvZ. Unless of course, a majority of zerg players are above 50% in ZvP and ZvT, but I highly doubt that. However, in this case, HyuN's worst matchup may be ZvZ. TLPD and a majority of posters seem to think so.
Can't think of a Zerg that openly enjoys ZvZ. I can think of Foreigners who've stated they dislike ZvZ and ones that are notably bad at it. Most Koreans won't say openly say they dislike it but there are a few who're quite bad at it.
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
On September 25 2012 04:52 goswser wrote: 5 Protoss, 2 Terran for Hyun. Why not give him a zerg next time? Is IPL afraid of doing mirror matchups or something?
Actually showmatches that I've seen are practically never mirror. Organizers are afraid of doing mirrors it seems, probably due to the community stigma against them.
On September 25 2012 03:49 CrazyBirdman wrote: Hyun going for another sweep? Titan is good but Hyun is just sick. I would love to see some KeSPA guys at Fight Club.
you're kidding right? MLG is trying to monopolize NA sc2 tournaments right now, no way will they let kespa players play in IPL, even if kespa lets them. truth be told, MLG is more binding than kespa will ever be. but just like Apple, MLG will always try and bring down the competition. soon MLG will sue IPL for using the same shade of red as they do in their logos and sue NASL for using the same shade of blue in the logos.
On September 25 2012 03:49 CrazyBirdman wrote: Hyun going for another sweep? Titan is good but Hyun is just sick. I would love to see some KeSPA guys at Fight Club.
you're kidding right? MLG is trying to monopolize NA sc2 tournaments right now, no way will they let kespa players play in IPL, even if kespa lets them. truth be told, MLG is more binding than kespa will ever be. but just like Apple, MLG will always try and bring down the competition. soon MLG will sue IPL for using the same shade of red as they do in their logos and sue NASL for using the same shade of blue in the logos.
I know about the MLG-KeSPA deal, I just would love a Bo9 against one of the top Korean players. (although I am not that anti-MLG...) I guess in the near future IPL will have to invite players that already have played in FIght Club. Because if they want to avoid mirrors and still want to provide the top players there won't be many options anymore.
On September 25 2012 03:49 CrazyBirdman wrote: Hyun going for another sweep? Titan is good but Hyun is just sick. I would love to see some KeSPA guys at Fight Club.
you're kidding right? MLG is trying to monopolize NA sc2 tournaments right now, no way will they let kespa players play in IPL, even if kespa lets them. truth be told, MLG is more binding than kespa will ever be. but just like Apple, MLG will always try and bring down the competition. soon MLG will sue IPL for using the same shade of red as they do in their logos and sue NASL for using the same shade of blue in the logos.
I know about the MLG-KeSPA deal, I just would love a Bo9 against one of the top Korean players. (although I am not that anti-MLG...) I guess in the near future IPL will have to invite players that already have played in FIght Club. Because if they want to avoid mirrors and still want to provide the top players there won't be many options anymore.
just invite DRG or NesTea or Life. any of those players will easily take down hyun.
If you look at Hyuns Korean results, his weakest matchup seems to be ZvT. They should challenge him with a really good korean terran. MMA, Byun and Keen haven't been on. Other than that I don't mind a ZvZ once in a while though Hyun is very strong ZvZ. Could try Life or Curious.
On September 25 2012 05:28 00Visor wrote: If you look at Hyuns Korean results, his weakest matchup seems to be ZvT. They should challenge him with a really good korean terran. MMA, Byun and Keen haven't been on. Other than that I don't mind a ZvZ once in a while though Hyun is very strong ZvZ. Could try Life or Curious.
keen good at zvt? hahaha didn't he lose to life at tsl 4?
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
Haha, can most people even have ZvZ as worst matchup? Seems to be if someone has it as his worst, some people must be winning against him. :p Or does zerg lose more than they win in ZvZ somehow? ;P
Apart from that, Hyun is definitely known for his ZvZ, yeah.
On September 25 2012 05:28 00Visor wrote: If you look at Hyuns Korean results, his weakest matchup seems to be ZvT. They should challenge him with a really good korean terran. MMA, Byun and Keen haven't been on. Other than that I don't mind a ZvZ once in a while though Hyun is very strong ZvZ. Could try Life or Curious.
keen good at zvt? hahaha didn't he lose to life at tsl 4?
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
Even if it is it'll be a nice change. I don't see why there's stigma against mirrors.
On September 25 2012 05:28 00Visor wrote: If you look at Hyuns Korean results, his weakest matchup seems to be ZvT. They should challenge him with a really good korean terran. MMA, Byun and Keen haven't been on. Other than that I don't mind a ZvZ once in a while though Hyun is very strong ZvZ. Could try Life or Curious.
keen good at zvt? hahaha didn't he lose to life at tsl 4?
Please discuss in a respectful way. No "hahaha".
One single series certainly doesnt define his ZvT. If you look at his Korean stats, ZvT is by far his best matchup: KeeN. He did beat Life at the final of a TSL4 qualifier. And also beat Hyun there. In the international stats ZvT is his worst matchup. But he faced many strong koreans internationally (not so terran and protoss).
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
Even if it is it'll be a nice change. I don't see why there's stigma against mirrors.
Probably because they can be over very, very quickly. IGN has done some TvT showmatches, but has hesitated to do ZvZs and PvPs - not without reason, remember the GSL finals?
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
Even if it is it'll be a nice change. I don't see why there's stigma against mirrors.
Probably because they can be over very, very quickly. IGN has done some TvT showmatches, but has hesitated to do ZvZs and PvPs - not without reason, remember the GSL finals?
Doesn't systematically trying to prevent mirrors seem like a slippery slope? :p
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
Even if it is it'll be a nice change. I don't see why there's stigma against mirrors.
Probably because they can be over very, very quickly. IGN has done some TvT showmatches, but has hesitated to do ZvZs and PvPs - not without reason, remember the GSL finals?
True but they can be over very quickly even without mirrors. YongHwa all-kills really do leave me with too much time in the mornings XD
I actually think TitaN can win this, I'd bet way more money on him than I would've on either aLive or Grubby, esp given the right odds. I thought Tear had the best chance, but that didn't work out so well. :|
I would throw my vote in for at least one ZvZ if HyuN wins, I can kinda understand not having PvP, but the other 2 are completely acceptable (fuck, KvK TvT would be awesome), Life would be a great person to put in.
On September 25 2012 06:44 Avicularia wrote: TitaN is super strong protos. All depends if he's in good shape or not.
I think it all depends on Hyun... f he has been out all week getting hammered and partying and not preparing for Titan... then yea Titan has a damn good chance...
But if HyuN has actually prepared for this(Which I'm just going to assume he has) I give Titan a 0.1-1% chance of winning, especially given that its a bo9! Titan might be able to steal a couple games or maybe grab a bo3 against HyuN but I don't see him winning a bo9....
On September 25 2012 03:55 Kamwah wrote: Most Zergs worst matchup is ZvZ.
Isn't it Hyun's best matchup? ^^ Seem to recall hearing that somewhere. Looks like probably a 5-2 for Hyun, maybe 5-1 or 5-3 depending on servers and how the players are feeling.
Even if it is it'll be a nice change. I don't see why there's stigma against mirrors.
Probably because they can be over very, very quickly. IGN has done some TvT showmatches, but has hesitated to do ZvZs and PvPs - not without reason, remember the GSL finals?
Doesn't systematically trying to prevent mirrors seem like a slippery slope? :p
I'm all for a ZvZ, just trying to imagine their reasoning. I do think they assume non-mirror matches attract more viewers than Zerg or Protoss mirrors.
On September 25 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: I actually think TitaN can win this, I'd bet way more money on him than I would've on either aLive or Grubby, esp given the right odds. I thought Tear had the best chance, but that didn't work out so well. :|
by.Rain next pleaseee! Make it happennnnnn
I also think he could win, I tweeted IGN to pick him. But seeing how Hyun destroyed all the other players, I only dare hoping for close games.
Rain would be awesome, but they'll probably go for a Terran again...
On September 25 2012 06:44 Avicularia wrote: TitaN is super strong protos. All depends if he's in good shape or not.
I think it all depends on Hyun... f he has been out all week getting hammered and partying and not preparing for Titan... then yea Titan has a damn good chance...
But if HyuN has actually prepared for this(Which I'm just going to assume he has) I give Titan a 0.1-1% chance of winning, especially given that its a bo9! Titan might be able to steal a couple games or maybe grab a bo3 against HyuN but I don't see him winning a bo9....
Why would he need to prepare? Hyun's preparation consists of ZOTAC Cups and Go4SC2s.
On September 25 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: I actually think TitaN can win this, I'd bet way more money on him than I would've on either aLive or Grubby, esp given the right odds. I thought Tear had the best chance, but that didn't work out so well. :|
by.Rain next pleaseee! Make it happennnnnn
I'll give you 5:1 odds up to $100 if you want to bet. Titan has no chance.
When Hyun get a bounty of $25k, he can negotiate with next opponent to purposely lose, then split the money with that opponent (maybe 6-4 the money). Brilliant?
On September 25 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: I actually think TitaN can win this, I'd bet way more money on him than I would've on either aLive or Grubby, esp given the right odds. I thought Tear had the best chance, but that didn't work out so well. :|
by.Rain next pleaseee! Make it happennnnnn
I can't imagine it'll be easy getting a KeSPA player .
On September 25 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: I actually think TitaN can win this, I'd bet way more money on him than I would've on either aLive or Grubby, esp given the right odds. I thought Tear had the best chance, but that didn't work out so well. :|
by.Rain next pleaseee! Make it happennnnnn
I can't imagine it'll be easy getting a KeSPA player .
Anyone who watched IPL 4 will know IPL does not want to broadcast ZvZ for whatever reason, throughout all of IPL 4 they broadcast 1 ZvZ which was in the winners semi finals.
On September 25 2012 08:01 Hiea wrote: Anyone who watched IPL 4 will know IPL does not want to broadcast ZvZ for whatever reason, throughout all of IPL 4 they broadcast 1 ZvZ which was in the winners semi finals.
That probably has more to do with Zergs doing horrible at IPL4 than them refusing to broadcast ZvZ.
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Yea, Stephano is 2nd best player in USA after Idra, and as Day9 told before is death, Nerchio sucks!
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
So are you the new account for starception, brokenLoL, or both?
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Yea, Stephano is 2nd best player in USA after Idra, and as Day9 told before is death, Nerchio sucks!
you do realize that idra is the white drg/symbol/life/curious when not on tilt right? every progamer and caster in the sc2 community agrees that the only thing that's keeping him from winning every foreign tournament he goes to is his mindset.
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because.
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because.
because it still has foreigners with no real notable achievements in them. if it was like stephano + 31 code s koreans, and he wins, yeah, i might admit stephano is better than idra, but as it stands now, idra is more skilled than stephano
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because.
because it still has foreigners with no real notable achievements in them. if it was like stephano + 31 code s koreans, and he wins, yeah, i might admit stephano is better than idra, but as it stands now, idra is more skilled than stephano
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because.
because it still has foreigners with no real notable achievements in them. if it was like stephano + 31 code s koreans, and he wins, yeah, i might admit stephano is better than idra, but as it stands now, idra is more skilled than stephano
My jimmies were this close to being rustled. Now stop talking about IdrA and focus on HyuN dismantling TitaN.
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because.
because it still has foreigners with no real notable achievements in them. if it was like stephano + 31 code s koreans, and he wins, yeah, i might admit stephano is better than idra, but as it stands now, idra is more skilled than stephano
My jimmies were this close to being rustled. Now stop talking about IdrA and focus on HyuN dismantling TitaN.
fine, i think that hyun will 5-1 titan with titan doing an all in.
it is gonna be 5-0.. titan is clearly outmatched here ... titan won't win with an all in the way this is going.. only way titan will pick up a game is if hyun fails an all in
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because in GSL your opponents will prepare builds to counteract and destroy your style.
On September 25 2012 06:20 brokeception wrote: If idra hasn't done this yet, bring him in to slay hyun. Idra has best foreign mechanics.
No e doesn't, he would get slaughtered by hyun. Nerchio or Stephano would have a much better chance.
Idra: two round 8 in gsl code s Steophano: not even good enough to do code b Nerchio: not even good enough to do code b No I will let you decide on who's the best foreign Zerg. By the way, foreign tournaments are nothing compared to code s so don't mention 'oh stephano won and nerchio won hsc' hsc is casual so nobody took it seriously and wcs Wu had no Koreans so there goes the legitimacy of that one.
Foreign tournaments stacked with Code S players are nothing compared to Code S because.
The reason why Code S is different to foreign tournaments is because in GSL you have loads of time to prepare for at max 3 other players who have a tonne of replays to study.
Not to say that Code S players lose in foreign tournaments because of this but you've got to admit there are way more Foreign players that play gimmicky than Koreans.
On September 25 2012 09:11 PhoenixVoid wrote: Back to HyuN killing the dreams of any TitaN fans.
Yupp I said it before and I'll say it again... TitaN is good enough to maybe take a map or two off HyuN but there is no chance in hell of him beating HyuN in a bo9 series....
On September 25 2012 09:23 CosmicSpiral wrote: I wonder if Hyun actually prepares for Fight Club exclusively. He seems to be on top of his opponent's tendencies (every single one of them).
Probably used to the Korean contenders because of ladder and replays, while he prepares for Europeans by playing in Euro cups so often he knows their styles so well through playing them so often in weekly tournaments.
I still can't believe that Hyun is still on top in Fight Club. After months of no one making it past three weeks, I never expected him to dominate like this.
On September 25 2012 09:29 Sumahi wrote: I still can't believe that Hyun is still on top in Fight Club. After months of no one making it past three weeks, I never expected him to dominate like this.
From his play I imagine he (or the TSL coach) takes this very seriously.
On September 25 2012 09:29 Sumahi wrote: I still can't believe that Hyun is still on top in Fight Club. After months of no one making it past three weeks, I never expected him to dominate like this.
From his play I imagine he (or the TSL coach) takes this very seriously.
Seems to be HyuN's proud achievement judging from the interview after his Code A games.
Problem is IPL is one of the tournments the updater overlooks.
Weirdly enough Liquid'HerO's IPL FC wins are on his page so it should get on there eventually.
Well each week he wins he gets 500$ correct? Assuming he is taking this series that puts him at 7 so thats another 3500 added to his count which puts him up at like 6620 or something? I don't remember who he beat and the bounty he got from that though...
On September 25 2012 09:23 CosmicSpiral wrote: I wonder if Hyun actually prepares for Fight Club exclusively. He seems to be on top of his opponent's tendencies (every single one of them).
Very unlikely for foreigners. Usually Koreans use the first game in a series to figure out their opponents playstyle and adjust accordingly to counteract this. Many Koreans have confirmed this in interviews during foreign events. As for Korean vs Korean, Id say they would only prepare depending on their schedule. If they have an important GSL or OSL match coming up, then very unlikely.
Problem is IPL is one of the tournments the updater overlooks.
Weirdly enough Liquid'HerO's IPL FC wins are on his page so it should get on there eventually.
Well each week he wins he gets 500$ correct? Assuming he is taking this series that puts him at 7 so thats another 3500 added to his count which puts him up at like 6620 or something? I don't remember who he beat and the bounty he got from that though...
On September 25 2012 09:35 setzer wrote: IPL needs to get DRG if they want to see Hyun's streak broken.
Not sure if DRG will ever play in IPL Fight Club. He was set to play against Polt, but then backed out because he said playing cross-server messed up his play due to lag. Probably explains why we never see DRG at online tournaments other than qualifiers.
To be honest, when HyuN beat Squirtle 5-3, we were shocked. When he broke the IPL FC record of three series wins, we were shocked. Now it's more of a running joke/expectation that HyuN dominates everybody.
On September 25 2012 09:23 CosmicSpiral wrote: I wonder if Hyun actually prepares for Fight Club exclusively. He seems to be on top of his opponent's tendencies (every single one of them).
Very unlikely for foreigners. Usually Koreans use the first game in a series to figure out their opponents playstyle and adjust accordingly to counteract this. Many Koreans have confirmed this in interviews during foreign events. As for Korean vs Korean, Id say they would only prepare depending on their schedule. If they have an important GSL or OSL match coming up, then very unlikely.
No one knows if Hyun cares enough about this event to specifically study his opponents, but the games look like a GSL match where only one person actually did the prep work.
On September 25 2012 09:35 setzer wrote: IPL needs to get DRG if they want to see Hyun's streak broken.
Not sure if DRG will ever play in IPL Fight Club. He was set to play against Polt, but then backed out because he said playing cross-server messed up his play due to lag. Probably explains why we never see DRG at online tournaments other than qualifiers.
Symbol would be the next best choice but he and Hyun may not want to play against each other because they are teammates. I don't see Hyun losing to anyone in ZvP or ZvT vs. those who haven't played yet. Gumiho would be my choice for closest Terran to beat him.
and as I was hitting post they announced Gumiho. Good match for Hyun
I'm excited to see GuMiHo attempt this, he should have a better chance than the others who have taken a shot. And he'll get 1200 dollars if he wins which makes it pretty worth while to actually train for this bo9.
On September 25 2012 09:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote: This is just disgusting. Bring in Rain; the appeal of both Kespa and a guy who will actually beat Hyun is quite enticing.
On September 25 2012 09:35 setzer wrote: IPL needs to get DRG if they want to see Hyun's streak broken.
Not sure if DRG will ever play in IPL Fight Club. He was set to play against Polt, but then backed out because he said playing cross-server messed up his play due to lag. Probably explains why we never see DRG at online tournaments other than qualifiers.
DRG has joined NASL this season. Though he did miss his match with Ret (don't know why).
On September 25 2012 09:35 setzer wrote: IPL needs to get DRG if they want to see Hyun's streak broken.
Not sure if DRG will ever play in IPL Fight Club. He was set to play against Polt, but then backed out because he said playing cross-server messed up his play due to lag. Probably explains why we never see DRG at online tournaments other than qualifiers.
DRG has joined NASL this season. Though he did miss his match with Ret (don't know why).
Oh, thanks for reminding me. I should probably fix my statement with "only important tournaments" for DRG's online tournament participation.
Please, no more foreigners until Hyun has been knocked off his throne, at least until IPL decides to allow mirror matches. In case anyone still wasn't sure, there are NO foreign protoss or terrans who can beat Hyun in a Bo9.
On September 25 2012 11:01 red4ce wrote: Please, no more foreigners until Hyun has been knocked off his throne, at least until IPL decides to allow mirror matches. In case anyone still wasn't sure, there are NO foreign protoss or terrans who can beat Hyun in a Bo9.
Hrm let's see. Happy would definitely be 5-0, Lucifron 5-2 maybe, Thorzain 5-0. What about Naniwa? Played pretty well vs DRG.
Are they not allowed to play again? Why not Mana or Socke.
Elfi plays weird enough to take a game or two, who knows. Hasuobs? I don't think we should give up hope yet.
Though, I'd like to see the most obvious choice... forGG!
On September 25 2012 11:01 red4ce wrote: Please, no more foreigners until Hyun has been knocked off his throne, at least until IPL decides to allow mirror matches. In case anyone still wasn't sure, there are NO foreign protoss or terrans who can beat Hyun in a Bo9.
Hrm let's see. Happy would definitely be 5-0, Lucifron 5-2 maybe, Thorzain 5-0. What about Naniwa? Played pretty well vs DRG.
Are they not allowed to play again? Why not Mana or Socke.
Elfi plays weird enough to take a game or two, who knows. Hasuobs? I don't think we should give up hope yet.
Though, I'd like to see the most obvious choice... forGG!
Naniwa's PvZ is mediocre. Mana's PvZ is mediocre. Elfi is not that good in macro games. HasuObs and Socke are too middle of the road to contend over a Bo9.
Has Nerchio played in IPLFC yet? I'd watch a BO9 of him vs Hyun
Edit: Wait, or one of several better Zerg players: DRG or Nestea maybe. Oh man... Nestea vs Hyun could be FANTASTIC, I mean, call me crazy but I think he's still got it, at least in that matchup. Plus then Lucifron would have a great chance of taking out Nestea I think.
On September 25 2012 09:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote: This is just disgusting. Bring in Rain; the appeal of both Kespa and a guy who will actually beat Hyun is quite enticing.
On September 25 2012 14:07 NoGasfOu wrote: Thank god no ZvZ. It's one of the 2 worst matchups along with PvP.
It's nowhere near as bad to watch at PvP imo. Not even close. Hell, I prefer watching present day ZvZs to present most day TvTs
PvP is really entertaining if you know what to look for or if the casters are good. ZvZ is the worse match up IMO. One baneling hit or a build order win (see Nerchio vs Vibe in the EG Master Cup where Nerchio went Muta and Vibe went Roach). PvP has some of that, but watch MC vs. Bischu in NASL. MC came from way behind due to micro.
First name to come to my mind: Life. I really like Hyun, but this is getting ridiculous Come to think of it, the organizers probably do not want another zerg tearing sh*t up, that's why they are sending P/T. If this is the case, i understand and approve.
On September 25 2012 14:07 NoGasfOu wrote: Thank god no ZvZ. It's one of the 2 worst matchups along with PvP.
It's nowhere near as bad to watch at PvP imo. Not even close. Hell, I prefer watching present day ZvZs to present most day TvTs
PvP is really entertaining if you know what to look for or if the casters are good. ZvZ is the worse match up IMO. One baneling hit or a build order win (see Nerchio vs Vibe in the EG Master Cup where Nerchio went Muta and Vibe went Roach). PvP has some of that, but watch MC vs. Bischu in NASL. MC came from way behind due to micro.
ZvZ at the highest levels is infinitely more enjoyable to watch then PvP, because there are actually multiple tech paths to take in the midgame. One guy can go mutalisk, one guy can go infestors, one guy could go mass roach and attempt a bust. There's more often then not engagements and runby's all over the map during a ZvZ. In PvP, it's basically a race of who gets more colossus and upgrades them better. Nobody attempts any attacks or pushes because they know that the smallest fuckup loses them the entire advantage/game they might have had in the bag. That's boring as hell in 90% of the cases. Give me a high level ZvZ over a PvP any day of the week.
Get Life, watch him 5-0. Honestly though, I think Hyun is on too much of a roll to lose against anything but a ZvZ-expert or possibly someone with absolute top-notch TvZ.
On September 25 2012 20:48 Laeon wrote: I need the replays too ! Does IPL usually release the replays ?
Maaybe for the actual IPL events/qualifiers, but definitely not for Fight Club, TAC, or most of their other events where every game played is streamed.