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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
September 19 2012 13:14 GMT
#2441
On September 19 2012 22:11 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:09 fds wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:07 red4ce wrote:
Antiga shipyard really needs to go.

I think Daybreak has even worse statistics that Antiga...

You really don't want to go by statistics. Statistically, Dual Sight was a balanced map in ZvT.


The map is fine or at least we need a similar map with a hard to get fourth. We need some variation.

Yeah, I don't mind a hard to get 4th base since it provides more mid-game type battles which can be fun. But the really easy third for Terran in particular is what frustrates me. Zerg gets an easy third too, yes, but when does zerg ever want to be on equal bases with terran?
Long live the King of Wings
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
September 19 2012 13:14 GMT
#2442
GomTvT never be disappoint.
This going to Great!
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 19 2012 13:14 GMT
#2443
On September 19 2012 22:10 ChaosArcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:08 setzer wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:07 Jono7272 wrote:
EU Zergs > KR Zergs if DRG is anything to go by.. Such poor late game transition.


And you are basing this on WCS where there are no good terrans for EU zergs to play against?


No hes basing it on Stephano winning IPL,NASL,Lonestar etc. and Nerchio Winning HSC V + placing 2nd in Iem.


Yeah just look at those great Korean terrans Stephano beat in the NASL S3 /sarcasm

DRG is slumping but there's still Curious, LIfe, Roro, Leenock, and other zergs who put up results against far better Terrans than the EU zergs (excluding Stephano and Nerchio) do. It's laughable saying EU zergs are better than in the ZvT matchup when there isn't a single great EU Terran (Lucifron has done nothing in a field with Koreans).
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 19 2012 13:14 GMT
#2444
On September 19 2012 22:13 niukasu1990 wrote:
Just imagine how good soo is. Rain is crushing Group A and according to ssak interview, soo is the best player in SKT


Soo played pretty poor in PL. Maybe soO is really good in practice or something. But sometimes we can't really trust player interviews 100%. Or Yoda is the best player on LG-IM.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 19 2012 13:15 GMT
#2445
By.Rain royal road ahead
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 19 2012 13:15 GMT
#2446
On September 19 2012 22:11 Lvdr wrote:
Taeja just wants to get second so he doesnt have to teamkill hero again

I'll go for that
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 19 2012 13:15 GMT
#2447
just woke up

Sun advanced first? holy crap

SO GOOD MY BOY
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2448
Taejs's hobby : making sure his glasses are always shiny.
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
Factus
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil4 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2449
GO TAEJA!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2450
This song on gomtv is just unbearable.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2451
On September 19 2012 22:12 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:11 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:09 fds wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:07 red4ce wrote:
Antiga shipyard really needs to go.

I think Daybreak has even worse statistics that Antiga...

You really don't want to go by statistics. Statistically, Dual Sight was a balanced map in ZvT.


The map is fine or at least we need a similar map with a hard to get fourth. We need some variation.


Dual Sight was a joke PvZ lol.

The Z advantage was so overrated, distance between naturals meant 2-base P was very strong. But maybe you weren't referring to balance.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2452
On September 19 2012 22:15 Nirel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:11 Lvdr wrote:
Taeja just wants to get second so he doesnt have to teamkill hero again

I'll go for that


What if HerO ends up first?


fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2453
On September 19 2012 22:15 Dodgin wrote:
just woke up

Sun advanced first? holy crap

SO GOOD MY BOY

Impressive fashion as well
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
September 19 2012 13:16 GMT
#2454
On September 19 2012 22:15 Dodgin wrote:
just woke up

Sun advanced first? holy crap

SO GOOD MY BOY

Do you know about Parting's storms ? After you will watch the vods you will forget about them :D
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 19 2012 13:17 GMT
#2455
Pretty sure Taeja is destined to suicide himself going mech versus Poltauders here.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
September 19 2012 13:17 GMT
#2456
On September 19 2012 22:11 Lvdr wrote:
Taeja just wants to get second so he doesnt have to teamkill hero again

And what if HerO wins his group? Team kill again I guess :/
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 19 2012 13:17 GMT
#2457
On September 19 2012 22:16 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:15 Nirel wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:11 Lvdr wrote:
Taeja just wants to get second so he doesnt have to teamkill hero again

I'll go for that


What if HerO ends up first?



Good news for Hero then since TaeJa always loses in the ro8
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 19 2012 13:17 GMT
#2458
On September 19 2012 22:14 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:11 Ysellian wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:09 fds wrote:
On September 19 2012 22:07 red4ce wrote:
Antiga shipyard really needs to go.

I think Daybreak has even worse statistics that Antiga...

You really don't want to go by statistics. Statistically, Dual Sight was a balanced map in ZvT.


The map is fine or at least we need a similar map with a hard to get fourth. We need some variation.

Yeah, I don't mind a hard to get 4th base since it provides more mid-game type battles which can be fun. But the really easy third for Terran in particular is what frustrates me. Zerg gets an easy third too, yes, but when does zerg ever want to be on equal bases with terran?


after Zerg started to micro their units and discovered the Infestor for TvZ they are now fine with being on even bases.
Being on even bases in TvZ is actually not that bad because Zerg became more and more cost-efficient since the time where they only a-moved ling-baneling-muta and won on superior macro.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 13:18:38
September 19 2012 13:18 GMT
#2459
On September 19 2012 22:16 TheRidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 22:15 Dodgin wrote:
just woke up

Sun advanced first? holy crap

SO GOOD MY BOY

Do you know about Parting's storms ? After you will watch the vods you will forget about them :D


Who's Parting ? Should i google him ?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
September 19 2012 13:18 GMT
#2460
Wait, first map is what?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
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