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On September 17 2012 03:24 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:21 Dodgin wrote:On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? so if stephano had bombed out of wcs france because of a bad condition or he had a bad day he's not one of the best in EU? that's what happened with WCS KR. some of the best Terrans didn't make it in the qualifiers and some of the other best players forfeited. He did his job Dodgin while others didn't. But you do got a point. All I'm saying is the Korean players who qualified deserve all the praise they can get. And its a bit rude to them saying they arnt some of the best when they proved it.
Because even if they didn't get the terrans, their protoss are quite good too.
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On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"?
GSL stats say otherwise, really, between forfeits, scheduling issues and what not, big hitters were out quickly, which sucks. KRs are the most exciting players imo, but this is not their best. For whatever reason KRs in general seem to have placed little importance on WCS.
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Wow Dreamhack really kicking it!
Awesome trailer lol
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On September 17 2012 03:22 feanor1 wrote:
What do you all think the stream numbers will peak at for the finals? I think right around 100k, this tournament will end at pretty much the perfect time for people a US/Europe tourney.
most fans should have tuned in now
doubt we can get 50% more than now
some people will turn off for ZvZ, so Vortix vs Stephano 75k, Lucifron vs Stephano 80-85k
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Aaand the prodigy love this music
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On September 17 2012 03:24 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:21 Dodgin wrote:On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? so if stephano had bombed out of wcs france because of a bad condition or he had a bad day he's not one of the best in EU? that's what happened with WCS KR. some of the best Terrans didn't make it in the qualifiers and some of the other best players forfeited. He did his job Dodgin while others didn't. But you do got a point. All I'm saying is the Korean players who qualified deserve all the praise they can get. And its a bit rude to them saying they arnt some of the best when they proved it.
Sure the ones who did well in WCS KR deserve praise but they are not all the best players overall, they just had a good tournament in WCS while others may have had good tournaments elsewhere. ( Mvp going to IEM and winning that and forfeiting wcs comes to mind )
The competition in Korea is so tough that you can't hold one tournament and find the best players right now, especially with Kespa coming in. Who is to say some Kespa player who didn't get seeded into WCS KR wouldn't have won the whole thing on a good day?
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On September 17 2012 03:23 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:21 Dodgin wrote:On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? so if stephano had bombed out of wcs france because of a bad condition or he had a bad day he's not one of the best in EU? that's what happened with WCS KR. some of the best Terrans didn't make it in the qualifiers and some of the other best players forfeited. that guy thinks EU is better than Korea and nothing will convince him otherwise. waste of time.
I never said that you clown, stop putting words in my mouth. I said Europe is slowly catching up to Korea. I don't think they will ever catch them but they will defiantly lessen the gap. And this tournament just proves it. And I'm sure Europe will do very well in the world championship
On September 17 2012 03:26 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:24 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:21 Dodgin wrote:On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? so if stephano had bombed out of wcs france because of a bad condition or he had a bad day he's not one of the best in EU? that's what happened with WCS KR. some of the best Terrans didn't make it in the qualifiers and some of the other best players forfeited. He did his job Dodgin while others didn't. But you do got a point. All I'm saying is the Korean players who qualified deserve all the praise they can get. And its a bit rude to them saying they arnt some of the best when they proved it. Sure the ones who did well in WCS KR deserve praise but they are not all the best players overall, they just had a good tournament in WCS while others may have had good tournaments elsewhere. ( Mvp going to IEM and winning that and forfeiting wcs comes to mind ) The competition in Korea is so tough that you can't hold one tournament and find the best players right now, especially with Kespa coming in. Who is to say some Kespa player who didn't get seeded into WCS KR wouldn't have won the whole thing on a good day?
Yea, you got some excellent points and I agree with you mostly.
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On September 17 2012 03:25 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? GSL stats say otherwise, really, between forfeits, scheduling issues and what not, big hitters were out quickly, which sucks. KRs are the most exciting players imo, but this is not their best. For whatever reason KRs in general seem to have placed little importance on WCS.
uhhh the 'best' players competed, and lost D:
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On September 17 2012 03:25 NPF wrote:
Dreamhack Valencia add was SICK
yeah didn't see that before as well. This is like the best trailer for any event in sc2.
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On September 17 2012 03:22 WindWolf wrote:
I'm not kidding when I'm saying that if DreamHack keeps improving like they've done over the course of the year, I can think that they can afford to host a WCS Grand Finals in Tele2 Arena
Is that where they´ve hosted the Eurovision Song Contest (I believe it was 2010/2011)?
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If LucifroN reach the final .. prepared ...
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On September 17 2012 03:26 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:25 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? GSL stats say otherwise, really, between forfeits, scheduling issues and what not, big hitters were out quickly, which sucks. KRs are the most exciting players imo, but this is not their best. For whatever reason KRs in general seem to have placed little importance on WCS. uhhh the 'best' players competed, and lost D:
TaeJa didn't and MC and MVP forfeited (admittedly after a loss in the first round).
But WCS Korea only showed how many players in Korea are sick good. If the champion cannot even qualify for Code S...
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even when trying to promote events there is no protoss love lol
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On September 17 2012 03:26 Waxangel wrote:
uhhh the 'best' players competed, and lost D:
don't doubt training/practice in relation to their preparedness when it comes to the actual finals, though.. you know this
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EU production is way above US
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On September 17 2012 03:26 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:23 mambar wrote:On September 17 2012 03:21 Dodgin wrote:On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? so if stephano had bombed out of wcs france because of a bad condition or he had a bad day he's not one of the best in EU? that's what happened with WCS KR. some of the best Terrans didn't make it in the qualifiers and some of the other best players forfeited. that guy thinks EU is better than Korea and nothing will convince him otherwise. waste of time. I never said that you clown, stop putting words in my mouth. I said Europe is slowly catching up to Korea. I don't think they will ever catch them but they will defiantly lessen the gap. And this tournament just proves it. And I'm sure Europe will do very well in the world championship
How does this tournament prove anything about that? It's EU guys vs EU guys atm, that doesnt prove anything, but I do agree that the EU scene is really good
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I have no idea why terran are saying that zerg are OP. This new mech style that is being adapted by Koreans and passing onto Foreigners is getting out of control.
The APM for it isn't rediculously high either, can be done by a low masters terran.
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God I hope the finals is between Stephano and Lucifron, gonna be sick!
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TL was just overload for me
very nice! lots of people watching
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On September 17 2012 03:25 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2012 03:20 Benjamin99 wrote:On September 17 2012 03:15 mordk wrote:On September 17 2012 03:12 Asymmetric wrote:On September 17 2012 03:07 Azarkon wrote:
This level of play is insane coming out of Europe. It's one hell of a lethal line-up Europe is going to be sending to the world championships. I think we've got a realistic shot of making life very difficult for the Koreans. Koreans aren't even going with their best, maybe there will be some big surprises in WCS finals There "best" couldn't qualify buddy maybe they arnt the "best"? GSL stats say otherwise, really, between forfeits, scheduling issues and what not, big hitters were out quickly, which sucks. KRs are the most exciting players imo, but this is not their best. For whatever reason KRs in general seem to have placed little importance on WCS.
WCS Korea results would have probably been different if they knew the prize $ for WCS Global
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