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As usual, don't player bash, don't flame, and don't balance whine. Failure to heed this warning will have consequences.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 19 2012 23:10 GMT
#4541
On August 20 2012 05:40 mierin wrote:
Finally a Terran that looked competent vs. Z...let the balance whining end with this grand finals haha.

The best player ever beat some foreigners.

What does that have to do with balance?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 23:16:24
August 19 2012 23:13 GMT
#4542
forgot this one, can you guys vote for nonspoiler? :D
Poll: Recommend Grand Finals Game 5?

Yes (22)
 
58%

If you have time (10)
 
26%

No (6)
 
16%

38 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Grand Finals Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


thanks wax you're awesome
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Urbz
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 23:42:33
August 19 2012 23:39 GMT
#4543
I've got the vods for anyone who was just watching the rebroadcast of Day 5, which got cut of sadly.

violet vs nerchio: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329193675
mvp vs vortix: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329198029
grand final: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329221680
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
August 19 2012 23:51 GMT
#4544
Well Nerchio not on the same level as MVP. Well I'm glad MVP won cause it's good for SCII that a guy like him win.
Gokba Alhakel
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 20 2012 00:02 GMT
#4545
where all the mvp haters now? dude just wipes the floor with these foreigner zergs that are supposedly so godly, having to show his builds series after series and yet none of them can stop him. psh. all i see is bunch of zergs who rely on broodlord infestor to win every single game and when it doesnt work they insta-gg. at least stephano has variety and actual skill/gamesense.
scriptor
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia68 Posts
August 20 2012 00:04 GMT
#4546
On August 20 2012 08:39 Urbz wrote:
I've got the vods for anyone who was just watching the rebroadcast of Day 5, which got cut of sadly.

violet vs nerchio: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329193675
mvp vs vortix: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329198029
grand final: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329221680


thanks Urbz
SINESTET
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
August 20 2012 01:34 GMT
#4547
On August 20 2012 09:04 scriptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 08:39 Urbz wrote:
I've got the vods for anyone who was just watching the rebroadcast of Day 5, which got cut of sadly.

violet vs nerchio: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329193675
mvp vs vortix: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329198029
grand final: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/329221680


thanks Urbz

the finals vod had a still of the winner being lifted in the air by a teammate :/ made it pretty obvious who won without even needing to watch the game. spoilers suck
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
August 20 2012 01:58 GMT
#4548
If you go to the IEM replay website, it says map 1 map 2 etc but does not say the names of the players...is this ok? Will we still be able to download and watch the replays?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
August 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#4549
lol was just seeing vods only 6.5k usd ? does that even pay travel fees ? xD
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 20 2012 04:09 GMT
#4550
On August 20 2012 12:03 noD wrote:
lol was just seeing vods only 6.5k usd ? does that even pay travel fees ? xD

Its not like MVP had to pay any travel fees. LG flew him out there on their dime.

Since I slept in a bit, I missed the finals. Just went and watched them. MVP's decision making, multi-tasking and battle management was so damn impressive. Seeing him win fights with a smaller army also while dropping and killing expansions, damn thats the MVP we all know and love.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
August 20 2012 04:47 GMT
#4551
On August 20 2012 12:03 noD wrote:
lol was just seeing vods only 6.5k usd ? does that even pay travel fees ? xD


On the other hand they gave money to every single player at the event. Even the players on the last place got 600$.
You don't have a huge first prize that way, but for the players it is propably a nice change.
Well not for the winner, but for everyone else it is
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
August 20 2012 04:52 GMT
#4552
vortix was gonna win, and then MVP was all like, GANGNAM STYLE and pwned him
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
August 20 2012 04:56 GMT
#4553
On August 20 2012 13:47 Cri du Chat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 12:03 noD wrote:
lol was just seeing vods only 6.5k usd ? does that even pay travel fees ? xD


On the other hand they gave money to every single player at the event. Even the players on the last place got 600$.
You don't have a huge first prize that way, but for the players it is propably a nice change.
Well not for the winner, but for everyone else it is

damn dont know which one i want, i want winner gets more $$ and i aslo want loser gets some too.
guess the only thing we can wish for is e-sport gets bigger and bigger,so there;s more $$ for every1.
as1
th3rogue
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany683 Posts
August 20 2012 06:17 GMT
#4554
On August 20 2012 10:58 dynwar7 wrote:
If you go to the IEM replay website, it says map 1 map 2 etc but does not say the names of the players...is this ok? Will we still be able to download and watch the replays?

As always for all ESL events, all replays will be made available! If the download links are not working yet, they will be updated later today.
ESL Community Manager SC2, http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2
Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
August 20 2012 06:22 GMT
#4555
Glad to see Mvp doing well. Such a great player!
Flexis
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden235 Posts
August 20 2012 06:28 GMT
#4556
To see MVP keep winning tournaments like this is good for sc2, i think, because then its just not a random factor that matters the most, but instead raw skill with the game. Im sad that Nestea, and DRG, and MKP arnt as good as they were in their prime, but now when Kespa players enter the scene, perhaps they can take their spots.
Im thinking Soulkey, JD, Rain, Flash etc, if they improve to get next to MVP in the top, it would also be very good for sc2, as that would show how similar the 2 games are when it comes to peoples skills treating the gameplay.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18385 Posts
August 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#4557
On August 20 2012 06:33 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 06:09 xrapture wrote:
While Nerchio has been playing exceptionally well, I still think Stephano is cemented as the best foreigner. Nerchio has brilliant holds and game sense, but his mechanics are lacking. His creep spread is not the same as korean zergs and his epm is 50+ lower than Stephanos.

He does have a much better record vs MC than Stephano, but Stephano's TvZ I feel is much better.


i agree on stephano still being cemented as best foreigner easily, but i dont think nerchio lacks mechanics at all compared to stephano. what i do think is that stephano has better "game sense" in a way that he knows what to do on the fly at all times. A tiny factor may also be that stephano simply doesnt give a fuck about anything, nerchio doesnt have nerve issues or anything, but hes not stone cold i feel.

dno, both are extremly good, u also have to consider that Nerchio doesnt play full-time.


you mean decision making, not game sense?
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
August 20 2012 09:09 GMT
#4558
Why is there never any news on the frontpage about who actually won ? Its so difficult to get proper info on brackets and wins. Guess MVP won after reading the top comments here ......
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
August 20 2012 09:09 GMT
#4559
Alot of the games today just proved that there is alot more to sc2 than being able to make a big army and attack with it.

MVP's game-sense and patience/unit control (not flashy micro, just willingness to give up ground and take it when it favors him) provided him with far too much of an edge.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 20 2012 09:15 GMT
#4560
On August 20 2012 18:09 Avean wrote:
Why is there never any news on the frontpage about who actually won ? Its so difficult to get proper info on brackets and wins. Guess MVP won after reading the top comments here ......


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