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As usual, don't player bash, don't flame, and don't balance whine. Failure to heed this warning will have consequences.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
August 20 2012 10:05 GMT
#4561
I'm so glad MVP won this, best player ever <3
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 20 2012 11:17 GMT
#4562
Grand Final game 1 in 720p :



Game 2 in 720p :



Game 3 : 720p



Game 4 :




For those who missed it
http://www.youtube.com/PiouStarcraft - http://www.facebook.com/pioustarcraft
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#4563
On August 20 2012 18:09 Avean wrote:
Why is there never any news on the frontpage about who actually won ? Its so difficult to get proper info on brackets and wins. Guess MVP won after reading the top comments here ......


I think Wax is still thinking how to write the Recap since he picked against MVP in all his previews starting on Day 1
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 14:12:55
August 20 2012 14:12 GMT
#4564
On August 20 2012 22:29 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 18:09 Avean wrote:
Why is there never any news on the frontpage about who actually won ? Its so difficult to get proper info on brackets and wins. Guess MVP won after reading the top comments here ......


I think Wax is still thinking how to write the Recap since he picked against MVP in all his previews starting on Day 1

yea wax will never write one
odaxium
Profile Joined October 2010
United States356 Posts
August 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#4565
MmmmmmmVeeeeeePeeeeeeeeee
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 14:45:48
August 20 2012 14:43 GMT
#4566
On August 20 2012 23:12 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 22:29 vthree wrote:
On August 20 2012 18:09 Avean wrote:
Why is there never any news on the frontpage about who actually won ? Its so difficult to get proper info on brackets and wins. Guess MVP won after reading the top comments here ......


I think Wax is still thinking how to write the Recap since he picked against MVP in all his previews starting on Day 1

yea wax will never write one



Which is a shame. They should seriously look into getting another writer when their prediction guy consistently picks against THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME when he is up against noname foreigner zergs.


Edit: Like, he actually wrote this....

With Nestea showing his mortality in the group stages, how afraid should the legend Mvp be of getting eliminated in the Ro8? Most people would look at the names Slivko and SortOf and say that Mvp will certainly make it into the Ro4 at least. But personally, I think the Ro8 is the real test for Mvp, while the Ro4 is the reward that comes after. While all of Mvp's match-ups have suffered some deterioration since his peak, TvT is the match-up where we see the most glimpses of his old brilliance. He'll probably face fOrGG or SuperNoVa, both players he should be able to crush.

His actual style in TvZ hasn't changed much, as he trudges along with a weighty turtle style, but you get the feeling he's held back by his inability to create chaos with drops, or use micro to threaten with mid-game pushes the way other players can.
AzoriuS
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland74 Posts
August 20 2012 14:55 GMT
#4567
On August 20 2012 02:12 zmansman17 wrote:
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On August 20 2012 02:10 mijagi182 wrote:
Good games at IEM overal. And since Nerchio is a semi pro i dont get the MVP hype really. Frogg, MC, Violet... impressive run!


WEll Nerchio played Great but he is Zerg after all, which permitted him to go far in the tournament!

Great series! Wish it was bo7 (or more)

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If u think its so easy to beat MC, Violet, Forgg, Inori then show us. You only need to play zerg and a little training. Oh wait I forgot you are just a whiner who doesnt even play in master league I suppose. So then insted of blaming zerg try to improve macro noob.

U guys dont know how much Nerchio and Vortix achieved in this tournament. They faced one of the best koreans in the world and they did a good job beating some of them. They both lost to IMMVP who arrived with coach, team which can analyse his opponents etc. If u think its easy because of race then show me Idra, Sheth and others do same thing... own Koreans. OH WAIT they cant because unfortunately picking Zerg is bad strategy. U need a lot of skill too Sorry.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 20 2012 14:55 GMT
#4568
On August 20 2012 23:43 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 23:12 sam05396 wrote:
On August 20 2012 22:29 vthree wrote:
On August 20 2012 18:09 Avean wrote:
Why is there never any news on the frontpage about who actually won ? Its so difficult to get proper info on brackets and wins. Guess MVP won after reading the top comments here ......


I think Wax is still thinking how to write the Recap since he picked against MVP in all his previews starting on Day 1

yea wax will never write one



Which is a shame. They should seriously look into getting another writer when their prediction guy consistently picks against THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME when he is up against noname foreigner zergs.


Edit: Like, he actually wrote this....

With Nestea showing his mortality in the group stages, how afraid should the legend Mvp be of getting eliminated in the Ro8? Most people would look at the names Slivko and SortOf and say that Mvp will certainly make it into the Ro4 at least. But personally, I think the Ro8 is the real test for Mvp, while the Ro4 is the reward that comes after. While all of Mvp's match-ups have suffered some deterioration since his peak, TvT is the match-up where we see the most glimpses of his old brilliance. He'll probably face fOrGG or SuperNoVa, both players he should be able to crush.

His actual style in TvZ hasn't changed much, as he trudges along with a weighty turtle style, but you get the feeling he's held back by his inability to create chaos with drops, or use micro to threaten with mid-game pushes the way other players can.

his drops/hellion run by's where some of the best that i have ever seen
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
August 20 2012 14:58 GMT
#4569
It's ok to pick against MVP because he was showing signs of slumping, but now we know is back on track..

with very good form on all matchups!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Meistrich
Profile Joined August 2012
6 Posts
August 20 2012 15:00 GMT
#4570
MVP just got that amazing way of throwing his stuff at his enemy in situations where he seems so lost, pushed near to the brink of death he still manages 2-3 drops and run-by:s at the same time to buy enough time to recover and push back the enemy. In some games I just felt, "man, MVP is screwed now" and he just shrugs it off and turns the tide... Inspiring, just too bad there was no Protoss in the semis, it got kind of "old" seeing a lot of brood-lords pushes...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 20 2012 15:05 GMT
#4571
On August 20 2012 23:58 shell wrote:
It's ok to pick against MVP because he was showing signs of slumping, but now we know is back on track..

with very good form on all matchups!


People have been picking against Mvp all of 2012. I love how he can still prove so many people wrong and rise to the occasion despite his crappy wrists. To be fair he has "only" won a GSL and this IEM, which is a serious slump when you compare it to his 2011.

Of course Mvp's slump is every other progamer's dream lol
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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 20 2012 15:38 GMT
#4572
On August 21 2012 00:00 Meistrich wrote:
MVP just got that amazing way of throwing his stuff at his enemy in situations where he seems so lost, pushed near to the brink of death he still manages 2-3 drops and run-by:s at the same time to buy enough time to recover and push back the enemy. In some games I just felt, "man, MVP is screwed now" and he just shrugs it off and turns the tide... Inspiring, just too bad there was no Protoss in the semis, it got kind of "old" seeing a lot of brood-lords pushes...

same i thought he was dead on atlantis vs nerchio but i guess not lol
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 20 2012 15:54 GMT
#4573
On August 21 2012 00:38 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 00:00 Meistrich wrote:
MVP just got that amazing way of throwing his stuff at his enemy in situations where he seems so lost, pushed near to the brink of death he still manages 2-3 drops and run-by:s at the same time to buy enough time to recover and push back the enemy. In some games I just felt, "man, MVP is screwed now" and he just shrugs it off and turns the tide... Inspiring, just too bad there was no Protoss in the semis, it got kind of "old" seeing a lot of brood-lords pushes...

same i thought he was dead on atlantis vs nerchio but i guess not lol



Straight up, Its amazing watching this guy with terrible wrists just run over these zergs with pure machanics. Mvp is like, "hey you wanna death push me? First lets see if you can even keep up." He made Nerchio look like a scrub, dude was completely lost on how to defend his bases. Thats how the game should be, with the better player winning.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 20 2012 16:01 GMT
#4574
Of course MVP's performance will always be a slump compared to his 2011 showing... So really his 2012 "slump", is everyone's rising moments.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 20 2012 16:10 GMT
#4575
็ำHey Wax, when you will write recap about this IEM? I can't wait for it. It's also funny that Mvp's slump = winning GSL and IEM. Something that most of pros have been trying so hard to achieve but never be able to come close to it. That tells something about Mvp.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 20 2012 16:15 GMT
#4576
On August 21 2012 01:01 trinxified wrote:
Of course MVP's performance will always be a slump compared to his 2011 showing... So really his 2012 "slump", is everyone's rising moments.


I think everyone kind of focused on his HSC showing. It was pretty obvious he was not feeling well (I think he actually went to the hospital after his matches). I think players like MVP, MC, Nestea has set such high standards that every time they don't win or get far in a tournament, they are 'penalized' much more than other players.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 20 2012 16:24 GMT
#4577
On August 21 2012 01:15 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 01:01 trinxified wrote:
Of course MVP's performance will always be a slump compared to his 2011 showing... So really his 2012 "slump", is everyone's rising moments.


I think everyone kind of focused on his HSC showing. It was pretty obvious he was not feeling well (I think he actually went to the hospital after his matches). I think players like MVP, MC, Nestea has set such high standards that every time they don't win or get far in a tournament, they are 'penalized' much more than other players.

really i dont think nestea's standards are all that high to be honest, especially what ppl expect of mvp
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 20 2012 16:31 GMT
#4578
On August 20 2012 12:03 noD wrote:
lol was just seeing vods only 6.5k usd ? does that even pay travel fees ? xD


Hey man, even MVP needs something to wipe his butt with... other than the faces of lesser players, of course

Was really happy to see Nerchio and Vortix do so well. And very sad to see SangHo fall in the qualifiers
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 20 2012 16:56 GMT
#4579
On August 21 2012 01:24 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 01:15 vthree wrote:
On August 21 2012 01:01 trinxified wrote:
Of course MVP's performance will always be a slump compared to his 2011 showing... So really his 2012 "slump", is everyone's rising moments.


I think everyone kind of focused on his HSC showing. It was pretty obvious he was not feeling well (I think he actually went to the hospital after his matches). I think players like MVP, MC, Nestea has set such high standards that every time they don't win or get far in a tournament, they are 'penalized' much more than other players.

really i dont think nestea's standards are all that high to be honest, especially what ppl expect of mvp


Well, it is pretty obvious that Nestea struggles with travelling (due to him being older). And his late game is pretty poor (especially vT). But he still made GSL Ro8, OSL Ro16. Is he the Nestea from 2011? Of course not. But I will still rate him as one of the top 10 zergs in the world.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
August 20 2012 17:08 GMT
#4580
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2012 20:17 Piou wrote:
Grand Final game 1 in 720p :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6GMy4Rr2-s

Game 2 in 720p :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ATH09one2s

Game 3 : 720p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogJw7WbDdw

Game 4 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQTzr9SmR2c


For those who missed it


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