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There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 12:21:17
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1541
How come European Zs are much better at beating top korean protoss players than korean Zergs are? does it have something to do with difference in playstyle, that Korean P is not used to the way Europeans play ZvP?
you no take candle
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1542
On August 15 2012 21:20 Asha` wrote:
Split map raven bc incoming from MVP?


Mech into it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1543
Why is MVP so beautiful? I have to go to fucking work. I can't stop watching mvp!
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1544
On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.


lol targa was owned the whole time
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1545
On August 15 2012 21:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:16 sc2holar wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:11 sc2holar wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:09 Topdoller wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:07 sc2holar wrote:
on a more serious note, whats the deal with european zergs? is it something in our DNA? Do we have a part of the overmind in our brains?



nahh they arnt used to playing top class terrans, hense they get owned with ease

but seems like theyre pretty used to owning top class korean protoss? its pretty crazy how good our ZvP is here in europe.


Yea, that's what it's about. Trololol

are you implying that im balance-whining in disguise, or that you think ZvP is OP?


I think that protoss players with great PvZ can lose games or even whole series to zergs who are not even close to their skill level because of how the matchup works. Dunno if that means it's imbalanced. I personally think that if both zerg and protoss play perfectly, zerg wins.


That can go both ways.

For Z it's just: Oh, you did not spot all-in variant XYZ, you die!
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 15 2012 12:21 GMT
#1546
On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.


thats what makes great players great. They can afford to play at 70% of their ability until they have to bring out the A game. You dont see Bolt going for the WR in the quarter final :p
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4553 Posts
August 15 2012 12:21 GMT
#1547
Moon's accent is so chill. refreshing change from most other aussie accents, some sound really annoying.
hi. big fan.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 15 2012 12:21 GMT
#1548
On August 15 2012 21:18 JonIrenicus wrote:
One thing to be noted: MVP had no spare gas. It was beautiful to see a pro not having a huge bank of gas lategame. I'm curious about how he was able to have such a low gas...


On top of upgrades and all that? :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 15 2012 12:21 GMT
#1549
On August 15 2012 21:20 Asha` wrote:
Split map raven bc incoming from MVP?


god i hope so
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
August 15 2012 12:21 GMT
#1550
Is the audio really low, or it's just me? I can't understand what the casters are saying
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
August 15 2012 12:21 GMT
#1551
On August 15 2012 21:19 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?


As an American. I am both confused and angered at the thought of a non english commentary.

mb you could bother to learn a second language?
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 12:22:51
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1552
On August 15 2012 21:19 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?


As an American. I am both confused and angered at the thought of a non english commentary.


As an german I really hate the fact that we even have commentary in any other language then english (korean obv being the exception given how you can't do starcraft on tv with english commentary in korea), simply because this is a global esport and using any other language just limits your potential viewership to a smaller group. That and I know from listening to a view german casts how terrible starcraft really is in other languages.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1553
On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.

He dominated all game long...
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1554
Tarson gettin ownd'
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1555
Day9 is a bit out of date with TvZ, Mvp's ghosts not so great these days
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1556
On August 15 2012 21:20 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.


lol targa was owned the whole time



Targa was beat after his first failed zergling rush, he just didnt know it
petrox
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia320 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1557
no offence but is day 9 casting this game from 2011? 55 ghosts?
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1558
On August 15 2012 21:20 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:16 sc2holar wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:11 sc2holar wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:09 Topdoller wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:07 sc2holar wrote:
on a more serious note, whats the deal with european zergs? is it something in our DNA? Do we have a part of the overmind in our brains?



nahh they arnt used to playing top class terrans, hense they get owned with ease

but seems like theyre pretty used to owning top class korean protoss? its pretty crazy how good our ZvP is here in europe.


Yea, that's what it's about. Trololol

are you implying that im balance-whining in disguise, or that you think ZvP is OP?


I think that protoss players with great PvZ can lose games or even whole series to zergs who are not even close to their skill level because of how the matchup works. Dunno if that means it's imbalanced. I personally think that if both zerg and protoss play perfectly, zerg wins.


That can go both ways.

For Z it's just: Oh, you did not spot all-in variant XYZ, you die!


To be fair, Stephano just said in an interview that protoss is weak against zerg
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1559
On August 15 2012 21:21 stichtom wrote:
Is the audio really low, or it's just me? I can't understand what the casters are saying

It's super low. Every time a random commercial comes on my ears are blown out
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 15 2012 12:22 GMT
#1560
On August 15 2012 21:20 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?


Dude, chill out. I didn't say they were bad (cause I can't possibly know) and I'm enjoying just fine. Just surprised is all. I did come in from watching WCS after all.

No ,that was more of a question, is Nestea-Strelok on a german stream? I would like to understand smth., but I only found the games in russian. I tuned in to Take after you were saying this and there was MVP-Targa.
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