[Day 1] IEM Cologne 2012 - Open Bracket - Page 77

There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday

Unibrow88

Germany39 Posts

August 15 2012 12:14 GMT

#1521

On August 15 2012 21:13 JonIrenicus wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that TvZ became a macro fest? 10-12 minute of no pressure, pure macro, and then the match begin.... It feels more like pvz , honestly, after the queen buff

Zerg is just OP with 5+ Queens. You can't really pressure.

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Xoronius

Germany6362 Posts

August 15 2012 12:14 GMT

#1522

On August 15 2012 21:13 silent_owl wrote:
Just got in. Did Nestea beat Strelok?

He is about to tie up the score, Strelok is 1-0 up, but has 100 less supply in this game.

BeyondCtrL

Sweden642 Posts

August 15 2012 12:15 GMT

#1523

On August 15 2012 21:11 n0ise wrote:

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On August 15 2012 21:09 BeyondCtrL wrote:

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On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:

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On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:
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It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends.

Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes.

For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace.

I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses.
Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset.

How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing.

You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_-

I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions..

Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused.

Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected.

If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you.

Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment.

This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play.

And another person who doesn't even bother to read the post.

Who cares about your post, and anyways it's not JYP's fault for doing it, he apologized and clearly said he didnt know, and he also said that the game was lost no matter what, and I'll trust JYP over you, the game was lost because of Nani's play, even if JYP's move made him tilt, end of the theory crafting over Sweden pro players.

Like I said, 2x already, that Nani lost because he played poorly. My post was about whether what JYP did was appropriate or not, which it obviously wasn't. I don't even know what the fuck you are reading and why you bothered to reply to it without reading or caring about it.

I swear people are reading my post as: Naniwa would have won if JYP didn't touch him. So fucking retarded.

If what you're saying is "you shouldn't bother a player during a tournament match" then you are right, but it's also not very complicated to just right that sentence instead of going on about different scenarios

It certainly feels like you have to spell out everything for some people on this forum because they seem to be barely able to recognize the fact that other people actually have their own feelings and reactions to somethings. Mostly because I have met a lot of people like that as well. Like smokers who light a cig in a non-smoking area that is outside. If they aren't uncomfortable then no one else should be and if they are they are whining bitches because, "I can't smell anything.".

sc2holar

Sweden1637 Posts

August 15 2012 12:16 GMT

#1524

On August 15 2012 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:

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Yea, that's what it's about. Trololol

are you implying that im balance-whining in disguise, or that you think ZvP is OP?

silent_owl

Philippines3098 Posts

August 15 2012 12:16 GMT

#1525

Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!

tns

1054 Posts

August 15 2012 12:16 GMT

#1526

I like moonglade's casting

Xoronius

Germany6362 Posts

August 15 2012 12:17 GMT

#1527

On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!

Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?

Psyclon

Bulgaria2443 Posts

August 15 2012 12:17 GMT

#1528

On August 15 2012 21:16 tns wrote:
I like moonglade's casting

So do I

Ludwigvan

Germany2371 Posts

August 15 2012 12:17 GMT

#1529

I love watching Ultralisks vs Terran. It's amazing to watch. Stephano ftw (I mean zergbong)!

AgentChaos

United Kingdom4569 Posts

August 15 2012 12:18 GMT

#1530

stichtom

Italy695 Posts

August 15 2012 12:18 GMT

#1531

WTF, The audio is so so so low.

NeonFox

2373 Posts

August 15 2012 12:18 GMT

#1532

Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.

JonIrenicus

Italy602 Posts

August 15 2012 12:18 GMT

#1533

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Medrea

10003 Posts

August 15 2012 12:19 GMT

#1534

On August 15 2012 21:17 Xoronius wrote:

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Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?

As an American. I am both confused and angered at the thought of a non english commentary.

Lylat

France8575 Posts

August 15 2012 12:19 GMT

#1535

All those new Zergs are really struggling with their micro...

Olli

Austria24417 Posts

August 15 2012 12:19 GMT

#1536

On August 15 2012 21:16 sc2holar wrote:

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are you implying that im balance-whining in disguise, or that you think ZvP is OP?

I think that protoss players with great PvZ can lose games or even whole series to zergs who are not even close to their skill level because of how the matchup works. Dunno if that means it's imbalanced. I personally think that if both zerg and protoss play perfectly, zerg wins.

EmmeCY

Malaysia417 Posts

August 15 2012 12:19 GMT

#1537

On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!

I can't understand a thing either but it was so entertaining! :D

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

August 15 2012 12:20 GMT

#1538

On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.

I didn't think that was a sloppy game at all, I must have missed something big.