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There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday
Unibrow88
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany39 Posts
August 15 2012 12:14 GMT
#1521
On August 15 2012 21:13 JonIrenicus wrote:
Am I the only one thinking that TvZ became a macro fest? 10-12 minute of no pressure, pure macro, and then the match begin.... It feels more like pvz , honestly, after the queen buff


Zerg is just OP with 5+ Queens. You can't really pressure.

User was warned for this post
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 15 2012 12:14 GMT
#1522
On August 15 2012 21:13 silent_owl wrote:
Just got in. Did Nestea beat Strelok?


He is about to tie up the score, Strelok is 1-0 up, but has 100 less supply in this game.
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
August 15 2012 12:15 GMT
#1523
On August 15 2012 21:11 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:09 BeyondCtrL wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:04 GregMandel wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:01 BeyondCtrL wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:00 Ryps wrote:
On August 15 2012 20:58 BeyondCtrL wrote:
On August 15 2012 20:46 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 15 2012 20:39 BeyondCtrL wrote:
On August 15 2012 20:34 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 15 2012 20:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:
[quote]

It's obvious that Naniwa wasn't playing any good today. Whether this situation affected Nani only he can tell. What bothers me is that JYP thinks that touching a person is not disturbing especially when they need to focus. I know that Koreans have a different culture where it comes to physical contact with others but it's still quite rude to touch someone like that (especially when you're not close friends) and as far as I know JYP and Nani aren't even friends.

Would Nani have won if the situation never occurred? Most likely not. Did it bother him? Clearly it did. Was JYP at fault here? Yes.

For some people the idea of someone touching you and ruining your focus and tilting you is ridiculous. For others, however, it can do exactly that. It might be a bad excuse but in his mind it did really bother him and really that's what really counts in the end - his own state of mind and peace.


I know your swedish but you should stop making stupid excuses.
Naniwa lost and thats it. If a 10second touch influences 4 matches he has a serious problem with his mindset.


How is that excuse? Did you even read what I wrote? I'm talking about whether it's appropriate to touch someone like that during a tournament, not whether if the excuse is a valid one for him losing.


You indirectly said it. Especially in the last part. And now don't start a struggle about the definition of "excuses" because I won't reply to it. -_-


I'm not talking about the value of the excuse because IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, I'm talking about what the player was feeling and how it relates to the appropriateness of such actions in that situation. Really every time I try to objectively take both sides into account, especially if Nani is at the center (because literally everyone either hates him or loves/likes him), people assume, just from my country, that I am defending Nani's person and actions..

Let's remove names all together and go through my post as such so your mind doesn't get confused.

Player A gets touched by another passerby for a few seconds at a tournament game. Q: Is it appropriate? Some people will say it's fine because it doesn't bother them. Well by that means if someone doesn't mind something then it should be fine, right? It would be if HE WERE THE ONLY PERSON THERE. Everyone reacts differently to such situations. Some won't mind and some will be negatively affected.

If this happened to any player I would be saying the exact same thing, regardless of what happened. When someone touches another person in such a situation, i.e. they are not friends or acquaintances, then they better have a damn good reason for touching you.

Even if Nestea was winning 10-0 in a bo21 and some stranger touched him during a game it would NOT be OK. You never know how that person will react at that given moment.

This is getting ridiculous.. just ignore what happened, Naniwa lost because of his play.


And another person who doesn't even bother to read the post.

Who cares about your post, and anyways it's not JYP's fault for doing it, he apologized and clearly said he didnt know, and he also said that the game was lost no matter what, and I'll trust JYP over you, the game was lost because of Nani's play, even if JYP's move made him tilt, end of the theory crafting over Sweden pro players.


Like I said, 2x already, that Nani lost because he played poorly. My post was about whether what JYP did was appropriate or not, which it obviously wasn't. I don't even know what the fuck you are reading and why you bothered to reply to it without reading or caring about it.

I swear people are reading my post as: Naniwa would have won if JYP didn't touch him. So fucking retarded.


If what you're saying is "you shouldn't bother a player during a tournament match" then you are right, but it's also not very complicated to just right that sentence instead of going on about different scenarios


It certainly feels like you have to spell out everything for some people on this forum because they seem to be barely able to recognize the fact that other people actually have their own feelings and reactions to somethings. Mostly because I have met a lot of people like that as well. Like smokers who light a cig in a non-smoking area that is outside. If they aren't uncomfortable then no one else should be and if they are they are whining bitches because, "I can't smell anything.".
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 15 2012 12:16 GMT
#1524
On August 15 2012 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:11 sc2holar wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:09 Topdoller wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:07 sc2holar wrote:
on a more serious note, whats the deal with european zergs? is it something in our DNA? Do we have a part of the overmind in our brains?



nahh they arnt used to playing top class terrans, hense they get owned with ease

but seems like theyre pretty used to owning top class korean protoss? its pretty crazy how good our ZvP is here in europe.


Yea, that's what it's about. Trololol

are you implying that im balance-whining in disguise, or that you think ZvP is OP?
you no take candle
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 12:16 GMT
#1525
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
August 15 2012 12:16 GMT
#1526
I like moonglade's casting
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 15 2012 12:17 GMT
#1527
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 15 2012 12:17 GMT
#1528
On August 15 2012 21:16 tns wrote:
I like moonglade's casting


So do I
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2373 Posts
August 15 2012 12:17 GMT
#1529
I love watching Ultralisks vs Terran. It's amazing to watch. Stephano ftw (I mean zergbong)!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 15 2012 12:18 GMT
#1530
gg
IM & EG supporter
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
August 15 2012 12:18 GMT
#1531
WTF, The audio is so so so low.
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
August 15 2012 12:18 GMT
#1532
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.
JonIrenicus
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Italy602 Posts
August 15 2012 12:18 GMT
#1533
--- Nuked ---
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 15 2012 12:19 GMT
#1534
On August 15 2012 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?


As an American. I am both confused and angered at the thought of a non english commentary.
twitch.tv/medrea
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
August 15 2012 12:19 GMT
#1535
All those new Zergs are really struggling with their micro...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 15 2012 12:19 GMT
#1536
On August 15 2012 21:16 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:11 sc2holar wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:09 Topdoller wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:07 sc2holar wrote:
on a more serious note, whats the deal with european zergs? is it something in our DNA? Do we have a part of the overmind in our brains?



nahh they arnt used to playing top class terrans, hense they get owned with ease

but seems like theyre pretty used to owning top class korean protoss? its pretty crazy how good our ZvP is here in europe.


Yea, that's what it's about. Trololol

are you implying that im balance-whining in disguise, or that you think ZvP is OP?


I think that protoss players with great PvZ can lose games or even whole series to zergs who are not even close to their skill level because of how the matchup works. Dunno if that means it's imbalanced. I personally think that if both zerg and protoss play perfectly, zerg wins.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
August 15 2012 12:19 GMT
#1537
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


I can't understand a thing either but it was so entertaining! :D
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1538
On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.


I didn't think that was a sloppy game at all, I must have missed something big.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1539
Split map raven bc incoming from MVP?
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#1540
On August 15 2012 21:17 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:16 silent_owl wrote:
Oh wow. Nestea just murdered Strelok that game.

German commentating for the win. I can't understand anything. LOL!


Nestea vs strelok is on a german stream and I am watching russian commentary without understahnding anything?


Dude, chill out. I didn't say they were bad (cause I can't possibly know) and I'm enjoying just fine. Just surprised is all. I did come in from watching WCS after all.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
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