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[Day 1] IEM Cologne 2012 - Open Bracket - Page 80

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There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday
Unibrow88
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany39 Posts
August 15 2012 12:27 GMT
#1581
On August 15 2012 21:25 Naphal wrote:
there are english, german, french, polish and russian streams, i would say this is pretty nice to have something for everyone.

(nestea stream is russian btw, at least the one i got, german stream would be taketv)


Yeah, but not really needed because 85% of europe understands english no problem.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 15 2012 12:27 GMT
#1582
What an unfortunate timing, like 5s before stim ><
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 15 2012 12:27 GMT
#1583
On August 15 2012 21:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:20 sc2holar wrote:
How come European Zs are much better at beating top korean protoss players than korean Zergs are? does it have something to do with difference in playstyle, that Korean P is not used to the way Europeans play ZvP?


I think that a lot of korean protoss have this idea in mind that if you play predictably, you'll lose. That's why they'll mix in a lot of all ins or weird builds. Now, they know their korean opponents so they have these builds prepared for their specific opponents. If they throw them in against foreigners too, their loss rate is a lot higher because foreign zergs will play super super safe most of the time.

This actually makes sense, Korean Zergs (with some exceptions) are much worse at defending all ins than europeans, perhaps because Koreans generally prefere Macro games while european ladder is full of all ins and cheese.
you no take candle
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#1584
On August 15 2012 21:27 Asha` wrote:
What an unfortunate timing, like 5s before stim ><

wouldnt have changed much
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#1585
On August 15 2012 21:25 FataLe wrote:
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On August 15 2012 21:24 Bluelightz wrote:
whos account is sunnygohan :o?

a very bright kid with huge potential

roflrofl

so good
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#1586
On August 15 2012 21:27 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 15 2012 21:20 sc2holar wrote:
How come European Zs are much better at beating top korean protoss players than korean Zergs are? does it have something to do with difference in playstyle, that Korean P is not used to the way Europeans play ZvP?


I think that a lot of korean protoss have this idea in mind that if you play predictably, you'll lose. That's why they'll mix in a lot of all ins or weird builds. Now, they know their korean opponents so they have these builds prepared for their specific opponents. If they throw them in against foreigners too, their loss rate is a lot higher because foreign zergs will play super super safe most of the time.

This actually makes sense, Korean Zergs (with some exceptions) are much worse at defending all ins than europeans, perhaps because Koreans generally prefere Macro games while european ladder is full of all ins and cheese.


That would be..... unclassical.
twitch.tv/medrea
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
August 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#1587
On August 15 2012 21:27 Unibrow88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:25 Naphal wrote:
there are english, german, french, polish and russian streams, i would say this is pretty nice to have something for everyone.

(nestea stream is russian btw, at least the one i got, german stream would be taketv)

Yeah, but not really needed because 85% of europe understands english no problem.

That figure is greatly exaggerated.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
August 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#1588
On August 15 2012 21:24 Type|NarutO wrote:
PuMa 2-1 Killer
Killer 1-0 Socke

please update bracket on Liquipedia

You know anyone can edit it yourself instead of letting other people do the work.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 12:28 GMT
#1589
Nestea is owning Strelok right now.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
August 15 2012 12:29 GMT
#1590
On August 15 2012 21:28 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 21:27 Asha` wrote:
What an unfortunate timing, like 5s before stim ><

wouldnt have changed much



.... ?

he stims and kites, yes it makes a huge difference
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 15 2012 12:29 GMT
#1591
If mvp can still win this game.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 15 2012 12:29 GMT
#1592
Nestea is almost maxed on 5 bases vs 3 bases of Strelok. Looking good for the zerg.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 12:30:23
August 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#1593
Well MVP will almost definitely try to turtle and split map from here.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
August 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#1594
On August 15 2012 21:22 Lylat wrote:
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On August 15 2012 21:18 NeonFox wrote:
Kind of sloppy play from MVP :/ He crushed Targa but still, not the level of play he used us to.

He dominated all game long...


He did, but I remember him blowing my mind again and again when watching him. Here he forgot 6 medivacs that didn't participate in the fight and also a bunch of marines behind his third.

But as someone said it's maybe because he doesn't have to bring his a-game now and is taking it more slowly to rest his wrists.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#1595
Targa looks to be in a good position, could actually win this game and tie the se- Oh fuck, MVP's mouth is open!

Just GG now to save your embarrassment, Targa!
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#1596
Strelok banking a whole lotta minerals.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
August 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#1597
Just noticed grubby Doing well in lower bracket. Go grubby!!!
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#1598
Looks like MVP has gone full baleen whale.
twitch.tv/medrea
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 15 2012 12:31 GMT
#1599
Muta-ling in use by Nestea. Interesting. That's quite an old composition.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Minidex
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden10 Posts
August 15 2012 12:31 GMT
#1600
On August 15 2012 21:28 silent_owl wrote:
Nestea is owning Strelok right now.



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