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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 18:28 GMT
#3881
With people like kas in the picture I'm not actually sure if the Korean's do train a dramatic amount more lol.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24985 Posts
August 15 2012 18:29 GMT
#3882
On August 16 2012 03:22 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:15 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is that a potential IM teamkill I see? So hyped for tomorrow already!

Being in the same group decreases the risk of a team kill I would think, no?

Given how fallible both have looked today I can see them dropping sets, head to head could decide which of the two advances

I think you're giving Feast, Kas, and PiG way too much credit...

Not really, they're all pretty decent, not sure about PiG. I'm looking at how Targa almost took out MVP, and Nestea made catastrophic error after catastrophic error
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
August 15 2012 18:29 GMT
#3883
M.ForGG 5-0 (10-1)
EGPuMa 4-1 (9-2)
EGDeMusliM 3-2 (6-4)
Acer.Nerchio 2-3 (4-6)
WW.SortOf 1-4 (2-9)
TSL.inori 0-5 (1-10)

IMMvp 5-0 (10-1)
IMNesTea 4-1 (8-5)
AZUBU.viOLet 3-2 (6-4)
Empire.Kas 2-3 (6-7)
Tt.PiG 1-4 (4-8)
M.Feast 0-5 (2-10)

Nv.mOOnGLaDe 4-1 (8-4)
ST.Bomber 4-1 (9-2)
ROG.elfi 3-2 (6-4)
Grubby 3-2 (7-4)
coL.Minigun 1-4 (3-6)
ROXKIS.sLivko 0-5 (0-10)

SK.MC 5-0 (10-1)
mTw.SuperNova 4-1 (8-2)
K3.VortiX 3-2 (6-5)
mouz.HasuObs 2-3 (5-6)
Dignitas.KiLLer 1-4 (3-8)
ReaL 0-5 (0-10)

My predictions. Some of it crazy (the likelihood that ReaL and sLivko don't take a game is very, very low.) , some of it not.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 15 2012 18:29 GMT
#3884
Players in group B must be pretty angry lol
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
August 15 2012 18:31 GMT
#3885
is minigun actually attending?
TSM
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 18:31 GMT
#3886
On August 16 2012 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:22 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:15 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is that a potential IM teamkill I see? So hyped for tomorrow already!

Being in the same group decreases the risk of a team kill I would think, no?

Given how fallible both have looked today I can see them dropping sets, head to head could decide which of the two advances

I think you're giving Feast, Kas, and PiG way too much credit...

Not really, they're all pretty decent, not sure about PiG. I'm looking at how Targa almost took out MVP, and Nestea made catastrophic error after catastrophic error

I'd argue that moonglade is slightly better then targa, and that pig is pretty equal to moonglade.
NanowaX
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany190 Posts
August 15 2012 18:31 GMT
#3887
short description of mvps games please? is he in form?
SlayerS MMA GOAT | Maru, MKP, MVP, Byun
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 18:36:47
August 15 2012 18:35 GMT
#3888
On August 16 2012 03:31 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:22 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:15 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
Is that a potential IM teamkill I see? So hyped for tomorrow already!

Being in the same group decreases the risk of a team kill I would think, no?

Given how fallible both have looked today I can see them dropping sets, head to head could decide which of the two advances

I think you're giving Feast, Kas, and PiG way too much credit...

Not really, they're all pretty decent, not sure about PiG. I'm looking at how Targa almost took out MVP, and Nestea made catastrophic error after catastrophic error

I'd argue that moonglade is slightly better then targa, and that pig is pretty equal to moonglade.

As someone who is an active member of the SEA scene...

mOOnGLaDe, PiG, tgun, Mafia and TargA are all pretty much perfectly even IMO. They all trade games with each other so often. They excel at different things though. tgun has the weakest ZvZ of those 5 but the strongest ZvT and MAAAAYBE ZvP (probably TargA now with PiG also very close)
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
August 15 2012 18:35 GMT
#3889
On August 16 2012 03:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
M.ForGG 5-0 (10-1)
EGPuMa 4-1 (9-2)
EGDeMusliM 3-2 (6-4)
Acer.Nerchio 2-3 (4-6)
WW.SortOf 1-4 (2-9)
TSL.inori 0-5 (1-10)

IMMvp 5-0 (10-1)
IMNesTea 4-1 (8-5)
AZUBU.viOLet 3-2 (6-4)
Empire.Kas 2-3 (6-7)
Tt.PiG 1-4 (4-8)
M.Feast 0-5 (2-10)

Nv.mOOnGLaDe 4-1 (8-4)
ST.Bomber 4-1 (9-2)
ROG.elfi 3-2 (6-4)
Grubby 3-2 (7-4)
coL.Minigun 1-4 (3-6)
ROXKIS.sLivko 0-5 (0-10)

SK.MC 5-0 (10-1)
mTw.SuperNova 4-1 (8-2)
K3.VortiX 3-2 (6-5)
mouz.HasuObs 2-3 (5-6)
Dignitas.KiLLer 1-4 (3-8)
ReaL 0-5 (0-10)

My predictions. Some of it crazy (the likelihood that ReaL and sLivko don't take a game is very, very low.) , some of it not.



group 1..you seriously underestimate nerchio and inori..ForGG and Inori imo
group 2..i think your pretty spot on here
group 3..bomber and grubby would be my go to picks, only because pvp is hard to guess
group 4..again, i think your spot on here

Finals are looking like it will be MC vs a few possible choices. Idk if anybody here in current form can beat MC though, id say he only has a chance of losing vs MVP or Nerchio (i know its weird of me saying those two, just remembering back to hsc ..)
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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
August 15 2012 18:36 GMT
#3890
On August 16 2012 03:28 bo1b wrote:
With people like kas in the picture I'm not actually sure if the Korean's do train a dramatic amount more lol.

Playing ladder all day works as sufficient training only for few people.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 15 2012 18:38 GMT
#3891
On August 16 2012 03:31 NanowaX wrote:
short description of mvps games please? is he in form?


I only saw his games against Grubby and Targa. He destroyed Grubby easily who looked really good in his other games today, MVP's first stim Bio units with Medivacs pretty much killed Grubby and he out multitasked him with drops.
Against Targa on the other hand he looked shaky, still managed to win and defended all-ins pretty good.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 18:39 GMT
#3892
On August 16 2012 03:36 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:28 bo1b wrote:
With people like kas in the picture I'm not actually sure if the Korean's do train a dramatic amount more lol.

Playing ladder all day works as sufficient training only for few people.

I didn't argue the effectiveness of it, it's just annoying when people think foreigners still do only a fraction of the work that Koreans do.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
August 15 2012 18:39 GMT
#3893
On August 16 2012 03:19 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:18 sc2holar wrote:
Besides grubby, was there any real surprises today? Talking about people who made it through, not good players that lost early on.


No surprises, just dissapointment.

No tears, only dreams now.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 18:51:12
August 15 2012 18:43 GMT
#3894
On August 16 2012 03:31 NanowaX wrote:
short description of mvps games please? is he in form?

what can you say, he still showed off his brilliant tactics, but his wrist injury also showed its ugly head.

a friend of mine once called me up during a saturday night, stoned off his ass and piss drunk, yelling at the phone after watching the results after MVP got knocked out of code S. he was actually trying to come up with some kind of theory that MC had made a vodoo doll of MVP and that MVPs wrist injuries where the results of MC putting needles into the dolls wrist, and he was dead serious; "DONT YOU SEE? MC PICKS MVP FOR R32 BUT AFTER HE LOSES HE TRIES TO GET REVENGE BY JINXING HIM WITH ANCIENT BLACK MAGIC, IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME THEN GIVE ME A BETTER EXPLANATION OR YOURE WRONG."

(he is one of those stoners who believe aliens built the pyramid and the maya calender 2012 bs, telepathy and vodoo.
you no take candle
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 18:45 GMT
#3895
You mean aliens didn't do all that stuff?
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 15 2012 18:46 GMT
#3896
Koreans owning again. Surprised Grubby got throught. Must be his lucky day.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
August 15 2012 18:48 GMT
#3897
replay pack :

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http://depositfiles.com/files/ikxz8khwk

Open bracket with all the games
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 18:50:22
August 15 2012 18:48 GMT
#3898
On August 16 2012 03:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
M.ForGG 5-0 (10-1)
EGPuMa 4-1 (9-2)
EGDeMusliM 3-2 (6-4)
Acer.Nerchio 2-3 (4-6)
WW.SortOf 1-4 (2-9)
TSL.inori 0-5 (1-10)

IMMvp 5-0 (10-1)
IMNesTea 4-1 (8-5)
AZUBU.viOLet 3-2 (6-4)
Empire.Kas 2-3 (6-7)
Tt.PiG 1-4 (4-8)
M.Feast 0-5 (2-10)

Nv.mOOnGLaDe 4-1 (8-4)
ST.Bomber 4-1 (9-2)
ROG.elfi 3-2 (6-4)
Grubby 3-2 (7-4)
coL.Minigun 1-4 (3-6)
ROXKIS.sLivko 0-5 (0-10)

SK.MC 5-0 (10-1)
mTw.SuperNova 4-1 (8-2)
K3.VortiX 3-2 (6-5)
mouz.HasuObs 2-3 (5-6)
Dignitas.KiLLer 1-4 (3-8)
ReaL 0-5 (0-10)

My predictions. Some of it crazy (the likelihood that ReaL and sLivko don't take a game is very, very low.) , some of it not.


I find it more crazy, that you predict Demuslim over Nerchio and SortOf, but maybe you prove me wrong tommorrow. My predictions would be:

+ Show Spoiler +
Group A:
MillForGG 5-0 (10-1)
AcerNerchio 4-1 (9-4)
TSLInori 2-3 (5-6)
WWSortOf 2-3 (5-7)
EGPuma 2-3 (4-6)
EGDemuslim 0-5 (1-10)

Gorup B
IMMVP 5-0 (10-0)
IMNestea 4-1 (8-3)
AzubuviOLet 3-2 (7-5)
EmpireKas 2-3 (5-6)
MillFeast 1-4 (2-9)
Tt.PiG 0-5 (1-10)

Group C:
STBomber 5-0 (10-1)
ROXKIS.sLviko 4-1 (9-2)
ROGelfi 2-3 (4-6)
Grubby 2-3 (4-7)
Nv.mOOnGLaDe 2-3 (4-7)
col.Minigun 0-5 (2-10)

Group D:
SKMC 5-0 (10-2)
All other: 2-3 but no idea about mapscore.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
August 15 2012 18:51 GMT
#3899
On August 16 2012 03:28 bo1b wrote:
With people like kas in the picture I'm not actually sure if the Korean's do train a dramatic amount more lol.


What picture ?
I'm getting the derection.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 18:53 GMT
#3900
On August 16 2012 03:51 zYwi3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 03:28 bo1b wrote:
With people like kas in the picture I'm not actually sure if the Korean's do train a dramatic amount more lol.


What picture ?

The picture that koreans train 5x as much as foreigners.
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