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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27458 Posts
August 15 2012 17:55 GMT
#3761
On August 16 2012 02:53 mxh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:45 Dosey wrote:
GRRM can write an explicit rape scene in a book - It's a best seller and no one complains. Someone mentions the word rape on a forum - The entire community is instantly labeled as cancerous and insensitive, preventing the scene from growing Makes sense.

GRRM is a professional who has spent decades mastering his craft. You (and whoever posted 'rape') are some dickhead on the internet. There is also a difference between using 'rape' to refer to a 'rape' (as GRRM does & describes) and using 'rape' to refer to a computer game. Yes, there's a difference.

I can't remember who, but sometime after the tosh.0 rape controversy recently, one comedian stated that you can make rape jokes - it just takes a level of tact, humor, intelligence and mastery that nearly all comedians (I'm talking professionals) don't have. The touchier the subject, the harder it is to handle. This applies here. If the poster or caster or whoever mentioned it managed to do so in a top-notch manner, we wouldn't be having this discussion. More likely it was an offhand remark, and can't reasonably be compared with a scene in a book series that someone has literally spent thousands of hours on.

Believe this is the article you're referring to if other people wish to read it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3762
Will you stop the rape discussion? Jesus christ...
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3763
holy shit it's jared from pure pwnage!
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3764
Oh man that group is brutal Poor PiG
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3765
mvp and nestea same group
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3766
GL pig, feast and kas that's all I can say
Glorious SEA doto
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12057 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3767
Oh god MVP and Nestea in your group XD
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Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3768
Oh that horrible horrible jetlag flying all the way from France to Germany...poor ForGG
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3769
hahahaha oh thats gonna be tricky. Imagine if he drew that group 7 months ago!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3770
On August 16 2012 02:56 Holgerius wrote:
Will you stop the rape discussion? Jesus christ...

It's actually getting a little worrying now.
siii
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway251 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3771
HAHAHAH PiG and day9's reactions
knicyo
Profile Joined June 2012
177 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3772
Lol MVP and nestea in the same group
Ryung - Parting - Life - MMA - Genius - Fantasy
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3773
"Here are the other 2 in your group... MVP and Nestea. Fo Reals"


I cannot stop laughing. That's awful for him. Day9 is awesome.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3774
On August 16 2012 02:55 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:52 bo1b wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:48 pmp10 wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:47 bo1b wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:46 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:40 bo1b wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:38 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:36 Shiori wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:34 Chessz wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:27 Shiori wrote:
[quote]
I'm pretty sure when I use the word "rape" to describe utterly dominating and crushing someone in the context of competition, I'm not referring to them actually having held down the opposing player and fucked them.


Yea i'm sure that's the connotation you're applying to the word, but you actually undermine your own argument because in usage/linguistics debates, an appeal to context goes both ways (ie. sensitive to both sender and receiver of a message). So there isn't any reason to not avoid potential harm on behalf of the receivers of your message. It's not the horrible terrible faux pas some make it out to be, but you can't argue for your own use by asserting only your denotation applies. Cause it will always go both ways. It just boils down to lazy/juvenile diction if anything.

Well aware of that. I understand why people might be offended by the use of a touchy word. I think that's their error, though.

See, this is what I don't get. Why should you use a touchy word which you could easily avoid? Its so much easier to avoid those words and not harm someone. Even if you feel its somewhat irrational of them, why not just make a minimum effort to be kind to your fellow man?

Do you feel it's societies fault that a band aid solution to a problem is better then actually fixing it? Is wishing that people didn't mention rape better then providing support and therapy to people who were raped?
Why not both? Why not avoid triggering people as well as providing them help. There's a difference between not flagrantly using the word rape and not addressing rape. Again, my whole philosophy on this issue is just try to be kind to your fellow man.

Because avoiding a word isn't being kind - it's avoiding a word. Conversely censoring people from using a word because it has a completely different meaning to something horrible is not being kind at all.

This isn't about avoiding a word.
It's about watering-down it's meaning.

It's not about watering down it's meaning at all, it's about using a word with different meanings.

The word has only one meaning.
The fact that it's accepted in gaming sub-culture as synonym for decisive winning doesn't make that use valid in general English language.



Are we going to bring up the stupid prescriptivist/descriptivist war again? Because no matter what position you take, you are wrong.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 15 2012 17:56 GMT
#3775
holy shit...MVP AND Nestea in the same group

;;

and sucks for pig too xD
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#3776
LOL 'your group has MVP and Nestea' hahaha
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#3777
On August 16 2012 02:56 Holgerius wrote:
Will you stop the rape discussion? Jesus christ...

Stop offending Christians.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
August 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#3778
Should someone just make a poll about if the word "rape" is OK to use or not and be done with this discussion?
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
August 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#3779
I hope both Mvp and Nestea can make it out. Ahhh LG-IM Fighting!~
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 15 2012 17:57 GMT
#3780
On August 16 2012 02:57 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:56 Holgerius wrote:
Will you stop the rape discussion? Jesus christ...

Stop offending Christians.

Rofl! XD Good one.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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