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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 13 2012 00:39 GMT
#1901
I think this was played before ipl tac finals. If i were taeja, i'd never show off my best against someone who's on the team i know i have to beat almost on my own. First probably had the same kind of issues.

Not saying taeja would've beaten him in other circumstances, but this is not a good representation of both their skills.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:49:51
August 13 2012 00:49 GMT
#1902
i always pick all top or bottom per set, choosing randomly before i see the options

[image loading]

ffs
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 13 2012 00:50 GMT
#1903
On August 13 2012 09:39 Yorbon wrote:
I think this was played before ipl tac finals. If i were taeja, i'd never show off my best against someone who's on the team i know i have to beat almost on my own. First probably had the same kind of issues.

Not saying taeja would've beaten him in other circumstances, but this is not a good representation of both their skills.


TSL4 is more important than IPL TAC, at least imo.

I don't see why they would hold back.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8196 Posts
August 13 2012 00:54 GMT
#1904
KT fighting. Anyppi fighting!
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
August 13 2012 01:03 GMT
#1905
On August 13 2012 09:50 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:39 Yorbon wrote:
I think this was played before ipl tac finals. If i were taeja, i'd never show off my best against someone who's on the team i know i have to beat almost on my own. First probably had the same kind of issues.

Not saying taeja would've beaten him in other circumstances, but this is not a good representation of both their skills.


TSL4 is more important than IPL TAC, at least imo.

I don't see why they would hold back.


Not to mention that hiding TvP builds only protects him against 3/7 players IM can throw at him which includes Losira who he had a close series with at MLG and Nestea who prepares like a monster. I can't think of why Taeja would risk losing the tournament his team is hosting just to hide builds in this one case. No one would be talking about Liquid's loss in tac3 if they then got to watch Taeja monster mode through tsl4. Everyone would just blame the rest of TL for not pulling their own weight.

ShakaZu.Sc2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 01:12:25
August 13 2012 01:11 GMT
#1906
Didnt watch the last match so it could have been explained but shouldn't the 5th game of Taeja vs First been on Cloud Kingdom because that was the first map as well?
The format they used appeared to be Maps A,B,C,D,E,F players veto one map each (A,B) Then they play C-D-E-F-C
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
August 13 2012 01:13 GMT
#1907
On August 13 2012 09:22 Shikyo wrote:
I don't get why the vods on twitch cost something but then you upload them to youtube for free? All this caused was for me to spoil the results for myself and thus me not watching them on youtube either, resulting in a net loss of a single viewer.


Then again it appears that none of the matchups were even worth watching apart from the last one which I saw anyway. I have no idea why Taeja felt the need to continuously allin instead of trying to play a normal macro game.

The instant VODs on Twitch are a perk for TSL+ purchasers. Otherwise you have to wait until we've cut and uploaded the individual games.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
August 13 2012 01:23 GMT
#1908
hope to see interviews they're always fun to read!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 13 2012 01:25 GMT
#1909
On August 13 2012 10:11 ShakaZu.Sc2 wrote:
Didnt watch the last match so it could have been explained but shouldn't the 5th game of Taeja vs First been on Cloud Kingdom because that was the first map as well?
The format they used appeared to be Maps A,B,C,D,E,F players veto one map each (A,B) Then they play C-D-E-F-C


The last game was indeed on Cloud Kingdom, so I don't get what you're confused about.
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 13 2012 01:27 GMT
#1910
On August 13 2012 09:22 Probe1 wrote:
Did you really just say someone is bad because they only made it to the Round of 8 of the GSL?


Never called him bad...I just think he's not that good at preparation individual league matches. In fact, I think he is a top 10 Terran in the world right now. Just not in GSL or TSL
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 13 2012 01:38 GMT
#1911
If i buy a season ticket, can i watch these games on the TSL website right now? i need to see first vs taeja
you no take candle
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 13 2012 01:40 GMT
#1912
Mm I don't know about that. He made it to the round of 8, which was something eleven other Terrans failed to do. Had fortunes been switched and he had played Nestea where Byun did; and Byun took his place against MC? I think MC definitely would have won his game and Taejas now proven himself twice over Nestea.

I get what you're saying now but I still believe Taeja does fine in individual leagues, especially when he finished higher than (T)Keen, (T)TheStC, (T)GuMiho, (T)Mvp, (T)Happy, (T)SuperNoVa, (T)GanZi, (T)MarineKing, (T)Maru and (T)Ryung

In fact, the only people that gave him serious trouble in the last GSL were the two finalists, MC and Seed :O
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 13 2012 01:41 GMT
#1913
On August 13 2012 10:13 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:22 Shikyo wrote:
I don't get why the vods on twitch cost something but then you upload them to youtube for free? All this caused was for me to spoil the results for myself and thus me not watching them on youtube either, resulting in a net loss of a single viewer.


Then again it appears that none of the matchups were even worth watching apart from the last one which I saw anyway. I have no idea why Taeja felt the need to continuously allin instead of trying to play a normal macro game.

The instant VODs on Twitch are a perk for TSL+ purchasers. Otherwise you have to wait until we've cut and uploaded the individual games.


Hey, any news on the interviews? Are you guys still doing them?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 13 2012 01:42 GMT
#1914
On August 13 2012 10:27 starception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:22 Probe1 wrote:
Did you really just say someone is bad because they only made it to the Round of 8 of the GSL?


Never called him bad...I just think he's not that good at preparation individual league matches. In fact, I think he is a top 10 Terran in the world right now. Just not in GSL or TSL


Can you name 9 Terrans that are better than Taeja right now?
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 01:44:17
August 13 2012 01:43 GMT
#1915
I agree, he i certainly good in individual league formats like GSL, but he doesnt have the same aura of invincibility that he radiates in lan marathons.
you no take candle
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 13 2012 01:44 GMT
#1916
On August 13 2012 10:40 Probe1 wrote:
Mm I don't know about that. He made it to the round of 8, which was something eleven other Terrans failed to do. Had fortunes been switched and he had played Nestea where Byun did; and Byun took his place against MC? I think MC definitely would have won his game and Taejas now proven himself twice over Nestea.

I get what you're saying now but I still believe Taeja does fine in individual leagues, especially when he finished higher than (T)Keen, (T)TheStC, (T)GuMiho, (T)Mvp, (T)Happy, (T)SuperNoVa, (T)GanZi, (T)MarineKing, (T)Maru and (T)Ryung

In fact, the only people that gave him serious trouble in the last GSL were the two finalists, MC and Seed :O


Except none of those Terrans are good at marathon style tournaments...

also, Gumiho and Happy: ro4 mvp: 4 time GSL winner MKP: Silver three times. I also believe Ryung, Keen and Ganzi have made it into Ro8 before. Yes during specifically seasons 2 and 3 he made it farther than them.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 01:54:22
August 13 2012 01:45 GMT
#1917
On August 13 2012 10:42 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:27 starception wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:22 Probe1 wrote:
Did you really just say someone is bad because they only made it to the Round of 8 of the GSL?


Never called him bad...I just think he's not that good at preparation individual league matches. In fact, I think he is a top 10 Terran in the world right now. Just not in GSL or TSL


Can you name 9 Terrans that are better than Taeja right now?


PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran, and LiquidsucksBallsWithoutMe are 3 that I can name. Rainbow, Ensnare, LiveForever, Boxer, Rain and Jinro as well since they made it further in GSL.

But seriously, starception just likes to make posts that will get reactions out of people.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
August 13 2012 01:48 GMT
#1918
On August 13 2012 10:40 Probe1 wrote:
Mm I don't know about that. He made it to the round of 8, which was something eleven other Terrans failed to do. Had fortunes been switched and he had played Nestea where Byun did; and Byun took his place against MC? I think MC definitely would have won his game and Taejas now proven himself twice over Nestea.

not sure mc would have taken out byun myself ;D byun is damn good mang
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 13 2012 01:55 GMT
#1919
Why, what team is Byun on? OH RIGHT :>
(I'm kidding <3)

Yes, starception has a point. I disagree with it but it doesn't mean either one of us is totally wrong or totally right. It's how we view the players and we can both hammer out empirical evidence until I eventually falter because TaeJa definitely has less results than other Terrans that aren't performing as well as he is currently. I'll continue believing Taeja is on a sick run and he has a great shot at a Ro4 or Finals seat in the next GSL, as well as any given foreign tournament. starception is more than welcome to disagree or at least think he is stronger in team leagues!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
August 13 2012 01:57 GMT
#1920
On August 13 2012 10:55 Probe1 wrote:
Why, what team is Byun on? OH RIGHT :>
(I'm kidding <3)

Yes, starception has a point. I disagree with it but it doesn't mean either one of us is totally wrong or totally right. It's how we view the players and we can both hammer out empirical evidence until I eventually falter because TaeJa definitely has less results than other Terrans that aren't performing as well as he is currently. I'll continue believing Taeja is on a sick run and he has a great shot at a Ro4 or Finals seat in the next GSL, as well as any given foreign tournament. starception is more than welcome to disagree or at least think he is stronger in team leagues!

ahaha indeed

starception is quite the troll tbh, he's the new brokenlol (possibly even the same person).
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