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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7288 Posts
August 10 2012 11:52 GMT
#841
This has been a REALLY awesome day of WCS KR, PvT sickness. ^_^

When does PartinG ever disappoint when it comes to PvT though? Lordy, Bo9 with him v. Taeja would be sick.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 10 2012 11:52 GMT
#842
I liked this thread better earlier when no one was watching.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5594 Posts
August 10 2012 11:52 GMT
#843
I never thought the KeSPA players would catch up this fast... In BW the players are always in the B-team at least one year in order to get the fundamentals before going to the a-team.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 10 2012 11:52 GMT
#844
On August 10 2012 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:46 GolemMadness wrote:
Reality played better overall. Just a couple mistakes cost him this series.

He paid way too passively early on allowing Puzzle to catch up and almost take a lead economically then donated units in the middle of the map. How in the world is that playing better? He's the most impressive of KeSPA players by a long way, but in no way did he outplay Puzzle that last game.


Agreed. I can't believe Reality, after scanning and seeing HTs, just walked his bio into the LoS blockers in the center. That's just a huge, game-changing mistake.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 10 2012 11:52 GMT
#845
I really can't wait for more Terran pros to explore Mech vs Protoss. Many high masters are using it against Protoss perfectly fine, I really can't understand why more pros are not exploring it.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#846
On August 10 2012 20:51 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:50 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:47 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 MCDayC wrote:
Manner storms?
WP by Puzzle, its funny cause everyone was talking about how well he won in G2 but I wasn't impressed in that game, but even though he lost g3 he played miles better imo, Puzzle is just too good.

Game three actually showed skill. Game 2 any pro Terran could have won.

Exactly, but if Puzzle had rolled Reality in G3 I would have considered all the hype silly cause before g3 Reality didn't really play that amazingly.

Yes because Reality was magically teleported into WR2 from preliminaries ? You kiddin i hope.

I meant the hype from this series, its already valid to consider Reality one of the very of Kespa, but after g2 people were acting like he played amazing, and until g3 I don't think he showed that amazing play today.
His TvZ is already proven imo, he's a damn good player.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#847
How can some people say Reality played better? He had big advantage lost by blindly getting stormed at the watchtower...the supplies then even up and he still proceeds to move 2 of his tanks outside of Puzzles territory only to see them get blinked on from all sides because he overextended. Decides to try to hide a CC at the bottom right but it gets scouted and loses valuable mining time, stays in storms too long, and continues to overextend..

That doesn`t sound like someone is playing better. He played surprisingly well of course and had some good moments too but I didn`t see him outplay Puzzle that game.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#848
Do you guys mind not using theorycraft threads? Results from a test don't reflect professional matches.as professional matches are not in a bubble.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#849
On August 10 2012 20:51 Jellikit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:46 mrtomjones wrote:Puzzle was trying to win a feedback vs snipe war and thats not going to go well.
wrong again bob http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355809

Man, people are fricking confrontational here today. Snipe always seems to win out or at least come out even in pro battles but whatever. I dont care enough to have people act like pricks for no reason -_-
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 11:53:59
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#850
On August 10 2012 20:52 Elroi wrote:
I never thought the KeSPA players would catch up this fast... In BW the players are always in the B-team at least one year in order to get the fundamentals before going to the a-team.


Ehh I wouldn't say Kespa players. So far from what I've seen, only Reality has been able to go toe-to-toe with the GSL players with Roro behind him.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#851
On August 10 2012 20:53 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:51 bgx wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:50 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:47 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 MCDayC wrote:
Manner storms?
WP by Puzzle, its funny cause everyone was talking about how well he won in G2 but I wasn't impressed in that game, but even though he lost g3 he played miles better imo, Puzzle is just too good.

Game three actually showed skill. Game 2 any pro Terran could have won.

Exactly, but if Puzzle had rolled Reality in G3 I would have considered all the hype silly cause before g3 Reality didn't really play that amazingly.

Yes because Reality was magically teleported into WR2 from preliminaries ? You kiddin i hope.

I meant the hype from this series, its already valid to consider Reality one of the very of Kespa, but after g2 people were acting like he played amazing, and until g3 I don't think he showed that amazing play today.
His TvZ is already proven imo, he's a damn good player.

ok, settled.
Stork[gm]
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3676 Posts
August 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#852
On August 10 2012 20:52 Elroi wrote:
I never thought the KeSPA players would catch up this fast... In BW the players are always in the B-team at least one year in order to get the fundamentals before going to the a-team.


Thats mainly because everyone is still fairly bad and there is still so much stuff that gets figured out all the time. If Kespa would have waited another 4-5 years it would have taken them a lot longer, atleast a year.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#853
On August 10 2012 20:52 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 GolemMadness wrote:
Reality played better overall. Just a couple mistakes cost him this series.

He paid way too passively early on allowing Puzzle to catch up and almost take a lead economically then donated units in the middle of the map. How in the world is that playing better? He's the most impressive of KeSPA players by a long way, but in no way did he outplay Puzzle that last game.


Agreed. I can't believe Reality, after scanning and seeing HTs, just walked his bio into the LoS blockers in the center. That's just a huge, game-changing mistake.


Tbh, he should have waited for stim there. Or ghosts. storm dodging is impossible without stim. Source: me when i have 1 ghost in my ctrl group and i try to spam stim but it doesn't work.
The Bomber boy
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#854
On August 10 2012 20:51 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 GolemMadness wrote:
Reality played better overall. Just a couple mistakes cost him this series.

He paid way too passively early on allowing Puzzle to catch up and almost take a lead economically then donated units in the middle of the map. How in the world is that playing better? He's the most impressive of KeSPA players by a long way, but in no way did he outplay Puzzle that last game.


He should have just crushed Puzzle with his first push if he didn't blindly walk up into that storm. How did he play too passively? He had to defend against the blink stalkers, and once he had enough to defend and take his expo, he pushed.


Yeah, the point is that walking his bio blindly through the center of the map is a mistake on par with missing a crucial forcefield or something. It's one mistake, but the fact is that not all mistakes are created equal, and even if you play really well up to a certain point, one crucially huge mistake can still make all that good play for naught.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#855
On August 10 2012 20:51 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 GolemMadness wrote:
Reality played better overall. Just a couple mistakes cost him this series.

He paid way too passively early on allowing Puzzle to catch up and almost take a lead economically then donated units in the middle of the map. How in the world is that playing better? He's the most impressive of KeSPA players by a long way, but in no way did he outplay Puzzle that last game.


He should have just crushed Puzzle with his first push if he didn't blindly walk up into that storm. How did he play too passively? He had to defend against the blink stalkers, and once he had enough to defend and take his expo, he pushed.

He could've pushed out way earlier than that, or moved a few tanks around to push the blink stalkers away. By the time he pushed Puzzle had teched to storm and had his second base up, along with an equal worker count. If Reality pushes after the initial hold with a few siege tanks, Puzzle simply hasn't got enough to hold. Of course this is all speculation, but waiting as long as he did was certainly a mistake.
Long live the King of Wings
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#856
On August 10 2012 20:51 AlanSmithee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:48 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:47 AlanSmithee wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 Teoita wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:45 AlanSmithee wrote:
Im terran so biased as fuck but how is this fair? Argh the frustration fo even watching this...


You're kidding right? Reality donated 30 supply worth of units in the middle of the map, if he doesn't do that he wins easily...


I was, ofcourse, reffering to the last engagement..

Someone has to win that battle and Puzzle had the upgrades and the economy to reinforce, so of course he's gonna win, stop whining plz.


Just becaus i have an oppinion or something to say doesn't make it whining. This is a community, i thought sharing your thoughts was what you did? If it hurts you that much im sorry.. jeez

It didn't hurt but saying "how is this fair" seems pretty inflammatory.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#857
On August 10 2012 20:53 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:53 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:51 bgx wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:50 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:47 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 MCDayC wrote:
Manner storms?
WP by Puzzle, its funny cause everyone was talking about how well he won in G2 but I wasn't impressed in that game, but even though he lost g3 he played miles better imo, Puzzle is just too good.

Game three actually showed skill. Game 2 any pro Terran could have won.

Exactly, but if Puzzle had rolled Reality in G3 I would have considered all the hype silly cause before g3 Reality didn't really play that amazingly.

Yes because Reality was magically teleported into WR2 from preliminaries ? You kiddin i hope.

I meant the hype from this series, its already valid to consider Reality one of the very of Kespa, but after g2 people were acting like he played amazing, and until g3 I don't think he showed that amazing play today.
His TvZ is already proven imo, he's a damn good player.

ok, settled.

hugs all round ^_^
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#858
On August 10 2012 20:50 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 20:47 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 10 2012 20:46 MCDayC wrote:
Manner storms?
WP by Puzzle, its funny cause everyone was talking about how well he won in G2 but I wasn't impressed in that game, but even though he lost g3 he played miles better imo, Puzzle is just too good.

Game three actually showed skill. Game 2 any pro Terran could have won.

Exactly, but if Puzzle had rolled Reality in G3 I would have considered all the hype silly cause before g3 Reality didn't really play that amazingly.


lol considering that Reality almost took out SlayerS ace with only 3 months of practice while playing two games while Puzzle has played the game for more than two years and has only focused on SC2. Right! Look at Reality already beat Symbol and Yu-Gi-Oh (two players that have been in a more recent Code S).
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#859
On August 10 2012 20:52 Qikz wrote:
I really can't wait for more Terran pros to explore Mech vs Protoss. Many high masters are using it against Protoss perfectly fine, I really can't understand why more pros are not exploring it.

jelots. maybe when hellions are buffed in hots
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#860
On August 10 2012 20:52 Qikz wrote:
I really can't wait for more Terran pros to explore Mech vs Protoss. Many high masters are using it against Protoss perfectly fine, I really can't understand why more pros are not exploring it.


It's just hard to pull off in high level game.
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