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On August 03 2012 04:51 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones. if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement. Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus. He had 30 drones while getting 2raxed by a guy who pulled like 8 SCVs... Even in a worst case scenario Kas has like 20 workers on one base at most. Further, even if Ret is behind in drones it doesn't matter if he holds the all in. He has two hatches and queens for injects.
wtf
30 drones?
he had 15 when he put down the pool, and didn't make any more after getting to 16 suppy...
oingrf;alksjngjsk;nsjlgk;sf
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On August 03 2012 04:52 VanGooL wrote:
Music in incontrol's stream is SICK, i hope every tournament features this ambient music while casting!!!!
I would prefer the terran ingame music : <
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On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D
White-Ra and BoxeR
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On August 03 2012 04:51 Moka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones. if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement. Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus. ??????????? If you thought that Ret made the right thing, why did he lose then?
His mistake came from uprooting the second spine, he made the right units, i didn't say he did the right things with those units.
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On August 03 2012 04:52 TemujinGK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:51 Vorenius wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones. if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement. Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus. He had 30 drones while getting 2raxed by a guy who pulled like 8 SCVs... Even in a worst case scenario Kas has like 20 workers on one base at most. Further, even if Ret is behind in drones it doesn't matter if he holds the all in. He has two hatches and queens for injects. wtf 30 drones? he had 15 when he put down the pool, and didn't make any more after getting to 16 suppy... oingrf;alksjngjsk;nsjlgk;sf
didnt the casters say he made 12 at once, in the middle of the all in?
you know, idra pulls a move like that and he gets slated so hard
ret does it, 500 people defend him. Must be the power of twitter
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On August 03 2012 04:53 DertoQq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:52 VanGooL wrote:
Music in incontrol's stream is SICK, i hope every tournament features this ambient music while casting!!!! I would prefer the terran ingame music : <
Same, its incredibly distracting for me.
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On August 03 2012 04:53 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D White-Ra and BoxeR
Flash
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On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D
Not quite to the degree that it always happens to Sase. I have no idea why but people really want to believe that he's horrible. And actually I see it happen to WhiteRa all the time, tons of people make fun of him a lot and call him gold league and random crap, it's just a ton of people (like me) love him too.
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On August 03 2012 04:52 TemujinGK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:51 Vorenius wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones. if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement. Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus. He had 30 drones while getting 2raxed by a guy who pulled like 8 SCVs... Even in a worst case scenario Kas has like 20 workers on one base at most. Further, even if Ret is behind in drones it doesn't matter if he holds the all in. He has two hatches and queens for injects. wtf 30 drones? he had 15 when he put down the pool, and didn't make any more after getting to 16 suppy... oingrf;alksjngjsk;nsjlgk;sf
It's not like he has to keep on producing pure drones. Use 4 larvae on drones, 2 on lings, or whatever.
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On August 03 2012 04:52 TemujinGK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:51 Vorenius wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones. if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement. Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus. He had 30 drones while getting 2raxed by a guy who pulled like 8 SCVs... Even in a worst case scenario Kas has like 20 workers on one base at most. Further, even if Ret is behind in drones it doesn't matter if he holds the all in. He has two hatches and queens for injects. wtf 30 drones? he had 15 when he put down the pool, and didn't make any more after getting to 16 suppy... oingrf;alksjngjsk;nsjlgk;sf
At one point he had 26 drones with 4 more in eggs. Granted some drones died before the eggs hatched but I still counted it as 30. In any case it's way more than 16...
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I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.
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On August 03 2012 04:54 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:53 Whatson wrote:On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D White-Ra and BoxeR Flash
I think people get the point by now.
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On August 03 2012 04:54 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D Not quite to the degree that it always happens to Sase. I have no idea why but people really want to believe that he's horrible. And actually I see it happen to WhiteRa all the time, tons of people make fun of him a lot and call him gold league and random crap, it's just a ton of people (like me) love him too.
Because he is a cocky BMer, but unlike Naniwa he hasn't done much to back it up
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On August 03 2012 04:55 qqK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:54 HaXXspetten wrote:On August 03 2012 04:53 Whatson wrote:On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D White-Ra and BoxeR Flash I think people get the point by now.
No. They really haven't.
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United States15275 Posts
On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.
Winners format. If he didn't lose to ForGG (who won his match) Satiini would have automatically advanced. He has no one to blame but himself.
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On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.
Welcome to GSL group format.
No meaningless games but no advantage to winner on repeats.
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Northern Ireland25286 Posts
On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments
stay classy Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16 I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.) Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted. Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game? You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair. Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it. Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this.
Most of that is a form of pattern recognition, not pure reaction time and thus cumulative experience in reading pitches comes into play. Tennis is a similar sport, people are able to hit balls that their reaction times alone wouldn't enable them to, they make reads based on the body position of their opponents and other things like that.
Videogames on the other hand don't have these subtle physical cues that help to keep sportsmen competitive even with a relatively decline in their reaction times
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Will there be more games after these group matches today?
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
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On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.
bring extended series !!!!!!
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