On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote: The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.
lol it is very existant.
Sick crowd there!
not anymore dude.
Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).
Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.
Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.
Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?
Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.
There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.
Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol
GO ALICIA!
keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)
On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote: The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.
lol it is very existant.
Sick crowd there!
not anymore dude.
Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).
Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.
Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.
Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?
Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.
There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.
Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol
GO ALICIA!
keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)
Stephano won IPL3 9 months ago I believe, so it's not that long ago
Was actually the first big foreigner win vs alot of Koreans. I actually think thats was the starting point where the gap started to diminish
I get that HuK isn't super popular here for whatever reason but can we please stop circlejerk-hating on him? Seeing four pages where each one is half full of "lol HuK sucks go Alicia" makes this less a LR thread and more an anti-fanclub.
Your vote: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?
(Vote): Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011) (Vote): Medium gap (Vote): Small gap (Vote): Virtually no gap
(Gap is such a weird word)
How can people say the gap is about the same as 2011 when the results are so different?
I think the gap is smaller, but Koreans still in lead.
Sure they are.. but gap is way smaller.. look at last big tournemants results.. Dreamhack Mana , HSC Nerchio , NASL will be proably Stephano What was last big tournament that Korean player Win ? except GSL
@Edit sorry i forgot MLG its was last event that korean player win
On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote: The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.
lol it is very existant.
Sick crowd there!
not anymore dude.
Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).
Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.
Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.
Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?
Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.
There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.
Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol
GO ALICIA!
keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)
Look, you got the best foreigners vs average koreans (besides MC). You can't really draw conclusions from that.
Calling Alicia/puzzle and Hero average koreans is laughable
I can understand that from an American perspective the gap seems as big, but eastern European who can make a living from lesser money are really closing the gap. We're talking from pros, there aren't as many European pros as Koreans one, I'm not talking about semi pros, & they're really closing the gap. Best foreigners are from eastern Europe except stephano & maye Ret, Huk is no longer amongs the elite.
Your vote: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?
(Vote): Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011) (Vote): Medium gap (Vote): Small gap (Vote): Virtually no gap
(Gap is such a weird word)
How can people say the gap is about the same as 2011 when the results are so different?
I think the gap is smaller, but Koreans still in lead.
Sure they are.. but gap is way smaller.. look at last big tournemants results.. Dreamhack Mana , HSC Nerchio , NASL will be proably Stephano What was last big tournament that Korean player Win ? except GSL
Your vote: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?
(Vote): Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011) (Vote): Medium gap (Vote): Small gap (Vote): Virtually no gap
(Gap is such a weird word)
How can people say the gap is about the same as 2011 when the results are so different?
I think the gap is smaller, but Koreans still in lead.
Sure they are.. but gap is way smaller.. look at last big tournemants results.. Dreamhack Mana , HSC Nerchio , NASL will be proably Stephano What was last big tournament that Korean player Win ? except GSL
except the GSL how many top koreans go to other events?
On July 15 2012 07:01 nojok wrote: I can understand that from an American perspective the gap seems as big, but eastern European who can make a living from lesser money are really closing the gap. We're talking from pros, there aren't as many European pros as Koreans one, I'm not talking about semi pros, & they're really closing the gap. Best foreigners are from eastern Europe except stephano & maye Ret, Huk is no longer amongs the elite.
Your vote: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?
(Vote): Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011) (Vote): Medium gap (Vote): Small gap (Vote): Virtually no gap
(Gap is such a weird word)
How can people say the gap is about the same as 2011 when the results are so different?
I think the gap is smaller, but Koreans still in lead.
Sure they are.. but gap is way smaller.. look at last big tournemants results.. Dreamhack Mana , HSC Nerchio , NASL will be proably Stephano What was last big tournament that Korean player Win ? except GSL
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