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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
July 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#5081
On July 15 2012 06:55 PhoenixVoid wrote:
>Top 3 Control HuK

Jeez, he really is off his game recently isn't he?


He play really bad these days..I always liked Huk (when hated toss players :p) , but im must say .. he is so overrated..
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
July 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#5082
On July 15 2012 06:55 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:48 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?

Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011) (47)
 
38%

Medium gap (41)
 
33%

Small gap (31)
 
25%

Virtually no gap (5)
 
4%

124 total votes

Your vote: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?

(Vote): Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011)
(Vote): Medium gap
(Vote): Small gap
(Vote): Virtually no gap



(Gap is such a weird word)


How can people say the gap is about the same as 2011 when the results are so different?


Cuz logic doesn't matter on polls.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
July 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#5083
HuK is gonna be so tilted if he looses.
Where do whores go?
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
July 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#5084
i really hope blizzard fix terrans so we can have interesting matchups again

User was temp banned for this post.
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
July 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#5085
Go Alicia! He had control of that whole game.

Every time I hear that Starburst commercial, I hear Artosis in the first guy's voice. Not sure why
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 14 2012 21:56 GMT
#5086
On July 15 2012 06:55 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:48 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?

Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011) (47)
 
38%

Medium gap (41)
 
33%

Small gap (31)
 
25%

Virtually no gap (5)
 
4%

124 total votes

Your vote: Current skill gap between KOR and EU pros?

(Vote): Big gap (about the same gap as in 2011)
(Vote): Medium gap
(Vote): Small gap
(Vote): Virtually no gap



(Gap is such a weird word)


How can people say the gap is about the same as 2011 when the results are so different?


I think the gap is smaller, but Koreans still in lead.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5087
On July 15 2012 06:56 Poisonblack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:53 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:51 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:43 GunPaladin wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:40 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:34 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:
The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.

lol it is very existant.

Sick crowd there!

not anymore dude.

Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).

Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.

Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.


Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?

Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.

There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.

Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol

GO ALICIA!

keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)

Stephano won IPL3 9 months ago I believe, so it's not that long ago
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 21:59:02
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5088
On July 15 2012 06:47 elbooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:47 VillacherBier wrote:
whaaaat?

soundcloud/???

dash cool?


http://soundcloud.com/tropicool-official

i think


keep in mind tropicool (and dj's in general) aren't the people making the songs you're hearing, they're mixing a variety of music from various different artists into a cohesive set. in addition to that they may be, fx., playing their songs of choice at a bpm differing from the original, or on differing EQ settings, etc. not to discredit tropicool (though don't really care that much for his style), dj'ing is a serious artform i would one day like to be a lot better at than i am.

you can find some of the actual musicians behind some of the songs from the soundcloud comments on each individual dj set.
sagichu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States280 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5089
nice game from alicia
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5090
On July 15 2012 06:56 Poisonblack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:53 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:51 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:43 GunPaladin wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:40 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:34 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:
The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.

lol it is very existant.

Sick crowd there!

not anymore dude.

Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).

Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.

Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.


Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?

Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.

There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.

Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol

GO ALICIA!

keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)

Stephano and Ret are among the best of the best foreigners right now. The best foreigners have always been able to compete against the best of Koreans. The issue is, the LARGER majority of Koreans can stomp the LARGER majority of foreigners.

That's always been the issue.
I love crazymoving
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5091
Will Stephano vs MC be played today?
-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5092
On July 15 2012 06:54 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:53 HaXXspetten wrote:
Alicia outplaying HuK so hard right now...

If Alicia lost that Obs this game goes differently

But he didn't because he controlled units better - thus he outplayed huk.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5093
top 50 control, maybe
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5094
On July 15 2012 06:56 Poisonblack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:53 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:51 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:43 GunPaladin wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:40 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:34 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:
The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.

lol it is very existant.

Sick crowd there!

not anymore dude.

Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).

Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.

Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.


Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?

Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.

There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.

Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol

GO ALICIA!

keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)

Look, you got the best foreigners vs average koreans (besides MC). You can't really draw conclusions from that.
o choro é livre
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5095
I know this is a highly contrarian opinion but I want EG_Huk to win
MMA: The true King of Wings
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5096
Man,really don't wanna see Huk lose in Canada.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 21:58:11
July 14 2012 21:57 GMT
#5097
On July 15 2012 06:56 DOUDOU wrote:
i really hope blizzard fix terrans so we can have interesting matchups again


I really hope people like you would stop whining so we can have intresting posts again
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 14 2012 21:58 GMT
#5098
On July 15 2012 06:57 FrogOfWar wrote:
Will Stephano vs MC be played today?

yes
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
July 14 2012 21:58 GMT
#5099
On July 15 2012 06:52 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 06:43 AgentChaos wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:42 Lozos wrote:
This is the worst thing I've ever seen in a tournament stream. Who thought this was a good idea? They should be fired.

lol u mad?


He got some point , and i write abouth it some time ago . NASL hyped own casters so much , casters fight , casters show between matches..what is this ? , they should learn how to cast games , bitterdam is good idracontroll also , but Gretorp and this frogman no comments. They casted today Scarlett vs Ostojiy it was worst casted game i see from long time , mstakes all the way..

i endorse this post
Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
July 14 2012 21:58 GMT
#5100
On July 15 2012 06:57 FrogOfWar wrote:
Will Stephano vs MC be played today?


Yes
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