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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 13 2012 08:44 GMT
#121
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 13 2012 08:48 GMT
#122
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
DJSub
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia261 Posts
July 13 2012 08:54 GMT
#123
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great


Totally agree. People will still watch anyway
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 13 2012 09:01 GMT
#124
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 13 2012 09:03 GMT
#125
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 13 2012 09:04 GMT
#126
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 13 2012 09:08 GMT
#127
On July 13 2012 18:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc

it was talked about a lot do it on weekdays have more qualifiers have an open bracket. any of these please...
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 13 2012 09:09 GMT
#128
On July 13 2012 18:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc


They should try them during the week, TSL qualifiers have mainly been done during the week and have been successful.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 09:12:54
July 13 2012 09:12 GMT
#129
On July 13 2012 18:09 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:04 opterown wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc


They should try them during the week, TSL qualifiers have mainly been done during the week and have been successful.


On July 13 2012 18:08 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:04 opterown wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc

it was talked about a lot do it on weekdays have more qualifiers have an open bracket. any of these please...

the problem is that there are many TSL qualifiers, each with 1 spot + more by points.
there is ONE ipl5 qualifier for 8 spots in one go.

if you think about it, for any given single TSL qualifier, there were people that couldn't make it. if TSL only had ONE qualifier like IPL seems to have, there's bound to be people who can't make it. it's just that IPL has chosen to have only one qualifier, hence the scheduling problem.

if they had a weekday qualifier there's still bound to be many who can't make it.

i'm thinking a good idea would make THIS qualifier for 6 spots. then have another american one for 2 spots on a weekday next week maybe for anyone who complains. of course this would be a logistical nightmare, but it would be a good compromise.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 13 2012 09:16 GMT
#130
On July 13 2012 18:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:09 Laryleprakon wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:04 opterown wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc


They should try them during the week, TSL qualifiers have mainly been done during the week and have been successful.


Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:08 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:04 opterown wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:03 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:01 Bagration wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:48 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On July 13 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
you know, by the time IPL5 rolls around, i think a lot of us would have forgotten about this drama by now.
We'd be like - "ah, shame huk/idra/whoever didn't get to play, oh well" not "FFS boycott no huk/idra/whatever IPL5 sucks"
IPL5 is going to be great

feels like when it rolls around it would be a lot less appealing without the top NA players and some of the top EU players


There still will be strong NA players at IPL 5. Sheth, Illusion, and Suppy all signed up, and they are some of NA's finest right now. Yes, Canada does get the short end of the stick, but with the tournament scene as saturated as it is, there are bound to be conflicts no matter what weekend it is.

I still hope that IPL allows for an Open Bracket for the main event though. It's nice when premier events have them.

thats the problem theres 1 qualifier and no Open bracket... and there qualifer interferes with 2 WCS's and NASL

But that's the thing - there are no weekends that are free lol. This weekend X is on, next Y is on, the one after is Z... etc

it was talked about a lot do it on weekdays have more qualifiers have an open bracket. any of these please...

the problem is that there are many TSL qualifiers, each with 1 spot + more by points.
there is ONE ipl5 qualifier for 8 spots in one go.

if you think about it, for any given single TSL qualifier, there were people that couldn't make it. if TSL only had ONE qualifier like IPL seems to have, there's bound to be people who can't make it. it's just that IPL has chosen to have only one qualifier, hence the scheduling problem.

if they had a weekday qualifier there's still bound to be many who can't make it.

i'm thinking a good idea would make THIS qualifier for 6 spots. then have another american one for 2 spots on a weekday next week maybe for anyone who complains. of course this would be a logistical nightmare, but it would be a good compromise.

I agree it;s difficult but there does have to be some compromise by IPL maybe like u said moving a couple spots to a weekday maybe have WCS Canada top two qualify, more then 1 qualifier at least maybe a weekend one and a weekday one. something
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Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
July 13 2012 09:19 GMT
#131
viOlet and Golden are going so the best NA representation you could have is still there xD
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 13 2012 09:23 GMT
#132
there's also another problem with the satellites - they're NOT paid trips.
this might be a problem especially for the korean satellite =/
teams like NSH or prime or such might have a bit of a hard time paying for a RO40 spot (essentially an open bracket position)
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 13 2012 09:26 GMT
#133
well im going to bed please reconsider this system IPL it's really good for no one
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walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 09:35:33
July 13 2012 09:28 GMT
#134
On July 13 2012 18:19 Xcobidoo wrote:
viOlet and Golden are going so the best NA representation you could have is still there xD


True. It's not like any of the potential players who could miss out would be any great loss in terms of NA.

And, in IdrA's case at least he chose to cast rather than use downtime to practice and compete in this, so it's not like he's relevant to the conversation.

But the bigger problem is that the top 8 qualify from this, wheras just 1 qualified from the regional. So, nine qualifiers from a region, 1 from one tournament and 8 from another. Just screwy and poorly designed.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 13 2012 09:42 GMT
#135
On July 13 2012 18:28 walklightwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:19 Xcobidoo wrote:
viOlet and Golden are going so the best NA representation you could have is still there xD


True. It's not like any of the potential players who could miss out would be any great loss in terms of NA.

And, in IdrA's case at least he chose to cast rather than use downtime to practice and compete in this, so it's not like he's relevant to the conversation.

But the bigger problem is that the top 8 qualify from this, wheras just 1 qualified from the regional. So, nine qualifiers from a region, 1 from one tournament and 8 from another. Just screwy and poorly designed.

1 from 1 tourney gets the paid flight and hotel, though.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
July 13 2012 09:52 GMT
#136
On July 13 2012 18:42 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:28 walklightwhat wrote:
On July 13 2012 18:19 Xcobidoo wrote:
viOlet and Golden are going so the best NA representation you could have is still there xD


True. It's not like any of the potential players who could miss out would be any great loss in terms of NA.

And, in IdrA's case at least he chose to cast rather than use downtime to practice and compete in this, so it's not like he's relevant to the conversation.

But the bigger problem is that the top 8 qualify from this, wheras just 1 qualified from the regional. So, nine qualifiers from a region, 1 from one tournament and 8 from another. Just screwy and poorly designed.

1 from 1 tourney gets the paid flight and hotel, though.


Important for Asian and (maybe?) European teams, but decidedly less important for NA teams.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
July 13 2012 10:25 GMT
#137
it's an online tourney, it is still possible to squeeze in the qualifier games during nasl and wcs
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ShakaZu.Sc2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States131 Posts
July 13 2012 10:38 GMT
#138
On July 13 2012 18:28 walklightwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 18:19 Xcobidoo wrote:
viOlet and Golden are going so the best NA representation you could have is still there xD


True. It's not like any of the potential players who could miss out would be any great loss in terms of NA.

And, in IdrA's case at least he chose to cast rather than use downtime to practice and compete in this, so it's not like he's relevant to the conversation.

But the bigger problem is that the top 8 qualify from this, wheras just 1 qualified from the regional. So, nine qualifiers from a region, 1 from one tournament and 8 from another. Just screwy and poorly designed.


How is IdrA not relevant? Because he has an opportunity to make bank casting for NASL? Thats just dumb, he is the most popular NA player and not having him will cost them at least 2-3k viewers, even more if he decides to stream.

I think that things like these are going to be huge deals when you look at issues with over saturation. I dont want to spend every weekend watching tournaments (I think a large majority of the community feels the same, there are other things to life) and this tournament is now much lower on my radar and if it is in the middle of a busy tournament stretch then this will probably be the weekend I go do other things. When all the tournaments are stacked with great players I want to see tournaments with players I have a connection with, like those competing in various events over the next two weekends in the US and Europe.
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zedi
Profile Joined October 2010
165 Posts
July 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#139
Their loss in my opinion. Won't be watching if there is nobody to cheer for.
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
July 13 2012 15:30 GMT
#140
On July 13 2012 18:23 opterown wrote:
there's also another problem with the satellites - they're NOT paid trips.
this might be a problem especially for the korean satellite =/
teams like NSH or prime or such might have a bit of a hard time paying for a RO40 spot (essentially an open bracket position)


Even IM declined to send LosirA to MLG for a seeded Open Bracket position for the last two Championships (and Anaheim was after the LG sponorship started).
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