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On July 13 2012 02:06 Domus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:02 Sein wrote:On July 13 2012 01:52 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:08 MVega wrote:On July 12 2012 23:18 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 12 2012 23:13 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 23:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On July 12 2012 23:05 LakseWim wrote:On July 12 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 22:52 udgnim wrote:
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if you haven't noticed yet a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags and I cheer for Naniwa because he's one of the hardest working foreigners out there and genuinely wants to become one of the best SC2 pros out there Apart from Idra, there aren't any successful foreign SC2 pros that I can think of. Who are you thinking of? nice try troll You lurked forever  But you still should not call SeaSwift of all people a troll The hidden assumption here (correct me if I'm wrong) is that only GSL results matter, and then it's indeed Jinro, Idra and Naniwa, right? Edit: Forgot Huk -.- No, he's actually right there. That isn't something I would say. I was responding to someone who said "a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags" and meant to put the word "douchebag" between 'successful' and 'foreign', but I missed it out -_- my bad The thing is that Naniwa isn't a douchbag. He's a passionate character with a bit of a troubled past and likes to speak his mind. I see so many people on these forums misrepresent Naniwa's personality as one with 'malicious' intent. I guess that's the cost of being different. Anyway, there will always be haters. All I know is that Naniwa proved a lot of people wrong tonight. No, Naniwa definitely goes beyond being passionate. Please don't think I'm just a random Naniwa hater, because it's not that. It's not a secret that I don't like him, but I'm not one of those people that doesn't like him just because he's popular or whatever. Like I said earlier in the thread in Providence I didn't know him, I didn't really think anything of him good or bad at the time. I barely knew who he was, I'd just heard his name once or twice before. I was getting autographs from pro players, and it was a great experience, the pro players tend to be a great group of people that laugh and joke and are generally friendly. Then there was Naniwa, who I didn't know, and I felt bad not asking for his autograph because I had gotten literally everyone else's in the room, so I thought I would ask him so he didn't feel left out and insulted. He asked me what if he didn't want to give his autograph, and I just smiled and shrugged because everyone else was good natured and the mood was pretty good and he just exploded. Other pro players and their people shuffled away, and then he stormed off after about 7 mouthfuls of abuse while I was trying to figure out what set him off and trying to calm him down. Other fans apologised to me for him. >.< So yeah, to me, I think he's a jerk. If he's changed since then well then good, but I've got no way of knowing that, but speaking as someone that met him not THAT long ago he definitely had a very angry streak. That experience totally messed up the rest of that MLG for me. All that said I'm glad that he performed better today than I expected him to because even if I don't necessarily like a person I do enjoy seeing people improve and play better games. Edit: And for people comparing him to IdrA ... IdrA is actually pretty laid back in person. Had a great experience with him talking about making the IdrA face. We were talking and laughing and I asked him if it's ever difficult for him to make the IdrA face. Mid-laugh he just stopped and put on the :-| face, and it was hilarious. Hahaha, that story is awesome. This story only makes me like Nani more. I really like it when people are not just big pussies all the time, and Naniwa can be a dick when he needs to be. I don't get why people expect pros to always walk around like big carebears. Naniwa isn't a cuddly toy there to please you dude, he is a SC2 beast who wants to rip out throats! Anyway, sounds like you deserved it. Walking up to Naniwa for a pitty autograph and then being suprised that the guy just does not roll over for you... Also, the results suck, Naniwa should have won. Let's not put our standards here like it is ok he lost to DRG, he should not lose. Next time, Naniwa GSL champion, nothing less! Giving fan an autograph instead of responding by randomly spewing insults and storming out = just being a big pussy OK. Dude..he was not a fan, he did not even know who he was! You only hear one side of the story here, and it sounds awfully fishy.
hahaha, i read your first reply and it was exactly what i was thinking when i heard that story. and i agree that it's very convenient for this guy, and it's even better that everyone just takes it as gospel truth...
the best part is when they start accusing people of having social disorders and being serial killers (LOL!) when someone calls the guy on it.
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DRG so sick, another GSL title for sure now.
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On July 13 2012 01:55 Aeceus wrote:
I think Nani getting double RO8 these days is a lot bigger than Jinro's double RO4, but thats just me.
I disagree. Double RO8 today certainly means that today's Naniwa crushes the version of Jinro that was double RO4, but that doesn't mean much--anyone in Code S today would beat FruitDealer in the first GSL, but this doesn't diminish FruitDealer's accomplishments.
Naniwa's double-RO8 is certainly impressive, but double-RO4 is still better. Both played against the top-tier Korean players (i.e. the best in the world) of their time in the most prestigious tournament. Jinro got further. Twice.
Not to diminish Naniwa's accomplishments though--double RO8 is awesome.
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On July 13 2012 03:17 MVega wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:57 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 02:39 fishjie wrote:On July 13 2012 02:01 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:58 Heavenlee wrote:On July 13 2012 01:52 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:08 MVega wrote:On July 12 2012 23:18 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 12 2012 23:13 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 23:09 Ghanburighan wrote:[quote] You lurked forever But you still should not call SeaSwift of all people a troll The hidden assumption here (correct me if I'm wrong) is that only GSL results matter, and then it's indeed Jinro, Idra and Naniwa, right? Edit: Forgot Huk -.- No, he's actually right there. That isn't something I would say. I was responding to someone who said "a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags" and meant to put the word "douchebag" between 'successful' and 'foreign', but I missed it out -_- my bad The thing is that Naniwa isn't a douchbag. He's a passionate character with a bit of a troubled past and likes to speak his mind. I see so many people on these forums misrepresent Naniwa's personality as one with 'malicious' intent. I guess that's the cost of being different. Anyway, there will always be haters. All I know is that Naniwa proved a lot of people wrong tonight. No, Naniwa definitely goes beyond being passionate. Please don't think I'm just a random Naniwa hater, because it's not that. It's not a secret that I don't like him, but I'm not one of those people that doesn't like him just because he's popular or whatever. Like I said earlier in the thread in Providence I didn't know him, I didn't really think anything of him good or bad at the time. I barely knew who he was, I'd just heard his name once or twice before. I was getting autographs from pro players, and it was a great experience, the pro players tend to be a great group of people that laugh and joke and are generally friendly. Then there was Naniwa, who I didn't know, and I felt bad not asking for his autograph because I had gotten literally everyone else's in the room, so I thought I would ask him so he didn't feel left out and insulted. He asked me what if he didn't want to give his autograph, and I just smiled and shrugged because everyone else was good natured and the mood was pretty good and he just exploded. Other pro players and their people shuffled away, and then he stormed off after about 7 mouthfuls of abuse while I was trying to figure out what set him off and trying to calm him down. Other fans apologised to me for him. >.< So yeah, to me, I think he's a jerk. If he's changed since then well then good, but I've got no way of knowing that, but speaking as someone that met him not THAT long ago he definitely had a very angry streak. That experience totally messed up the rest of that MLG for me. All that said I'm glad that he performed better today than I expected him to because even if I don't necessarily like a person I do enjoy seeing people improve and play better games. Edit: And for people comparing him to IdrA ... IdrA is actually pretty laid back in person. Had a great experience with him talking about making the IdrA face. We were talking and laughing and I asked him if it's ever difficult for him to make the IdrA face. Mid-laugh he just stopped and put on the :-| face, and it was hilarious. Hahaha, that story is awesome. This story only makes me like Nani more. I really like it when people are not just big pussies all the time, and Naniwa can be a dick when he needs to be. I don't get why people expect pros to always walk around like big carebears. Naniwa isn't a cuddly toy there to please you dude, he is a SC2 beast who wants to rip out throats! Anyway, sounds like you deserved it. Walking up to Naniwa for a pitty autograph and then being suprised that the guy just does not roll over for you... Also, the results suck, Naniwa should have won. Let's not put our standards here like it is ok he lost to DRG, he should not lose. Next time, Naniwa GSL champion, nothing less! ...Chances seem very high you have some sort of social problem. A shit I give not. Seriously though...crying nerds sometimes tire me out, and then I can't do anything but laugh at their spineless behaviour, sue me. so glad naniwa lost you sound like a sociopath and so does naniwa. you dont cuss people out for asking for an autograph. the two of you sound like a match made in heaven, just don't become a serial killer. Lol, it just amazes me that people actually think the story happened the way he tells it  . You would have been a good help in the witchhunts, shame you were born a couple of centuries too late. Sorry you don't believe me, but that's how it happened. I wish it didn't, but it did, so yeah. Secondly I didn't "walk up to him" for a pity autograph, and it's not like he was doing anything else and it's not like I got all up in his personal space, and I didn't get get surprised that he didn't "just roll over" for me. I was surprised because he was so aggressive about it. He didn't have to get hostile, all he had to do was say no or even not say anything, it's not like I'm emo that I didn't get his autograph, I only asked if he wanted to because I was being good mannered. I don't really see how any of my experience makes me spineless, but okay dude.
Ok, then explain to me why he would react the way you are describing when you were nothing but positive, nice and angelic to him? What makes it spineless is that you could have confronted him there, asked for an apology. Or you could have contacted him by e-mail and explained how you perceived the situation and then Naniwa would probably have apologized for the situation (he has apologized to fans before if he lashes out when he is under stress). But instead, you decide to repeatedly post this same story about Naniwa(no, this not your first time is it now), and yes, I think that is spineless, be a man about it and confront him instead of talking shit about him on threads.
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On July 13 2012 03:37 Trsjnica wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 01:55 Aeceus wrote:
I think Nani getting double RO8 these days is a lot bigger than Jinro's double RO4, but thats just me. I disagree. Double RO8 today certainly means that today's Naniwa crushes the version of Jinro that was double RO4, but that doesn't mean much--anyone in Code S today would beat FruitDealer in the first GSL, but this doesn't diminish FruitDealer's accomplishments. Naniwa's double-RO8 is certainly impressive, but double-RO4 is still better. Both played against the top-tier Korean players (i.e. the best in the world) of their time in the most prestigious tournament. Jinro got further. Twice. Not to diminish Naniwa's accomplishments though--double RO8 is awesome.
I'd phrase it such as Jinro is the most accomplished foreigner this far while Naniwa is the most skilled foreigner this far. Obviously, not everyone will agree.
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Mikezilla why do you think Byun didnt deserve his wins at all?
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On July 13 2012 03:34 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 03:26 Seekzor wrote:On July 12 2012 23:20 Ragnarork wrote:On July 12 2012 23:18 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 12 2012 23:13 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 23:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On July 12 2012 23:05 LakseWim wrote:On July 12 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 22:52 udgnim wrote:On July 12 2012 22:46 Mayd wrote:
I don't understand why should we cheer for a douchebag just because he is a foreigner. if you haven't noticed yet a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags and I cheer for Naniwa because he's one of the hardest working foreigners out there and genuinely wants to become one of the best SC2 pros out there Apart from Idra, there aren't any successful foreign SC2 pros that I can think of. Who are you thinking of? nice try troll You lurked forever But you still should not call SeaSwift of all people a troll The hidden assumption here (correct me if I'm wrong) is that only GSL results matter, and then it's indeed Jinro, Idra and Naniwa, right? Edit: Forgot Huk -.- No, he's actually right there. That isn't something I would say. I was responding to someone who said "a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags" and meant to put the word "douchebag" between 'successful' and 'foreign', but I missed it out -_- my bad The thing is that Naniwa isn't a douchbag. He's a passionate character with a bit of a troubled past that likes to speak his mind. I see so many people on these forums misrepresent Naniwa's personality. I guess that's the cost of being different. Well, he actually DID some very wrong things such as the probe rush or some disrespectful statements in interviews, but come on, he's calmed down since and this doesn't mean the guy's whole personality is trash. Btw, seeing how IdrA gets so much support given his personality, i'm surprised people are bitching about Naniwa... I don't want to judge IdrA, but he is quite more BM, etc. than Naniwa... He's friends with people with a lot of shows,popular casters and being part of the best starcraft 2 team when it comes to marketing. That means people hear more good about IdrA than they hear about Naniwa. Trying to understand, you're saying it could be a lot better if Quantic managed to "market" him more ? (Or it has just to do with the investment in shows, and relations withs popular casters ?)
What I'm trying to say is that EG works a lot with marketing their players, and are damn good at it. IdrA is on a lot of shows interacting with the community. It's also no secret that he's friends with the others on these shows. This means that IdrA is rarely discussed by them in a negative way.
Naniwa on the other hand is for most people only visible in interviews at tournaments when he's under pressure to perform, speaking a language that isn't his native one. At the same time it's quite known that some of the people on these shows doesn't like Naniwa and are talking about him being anti-social, bad mannered and laughing about stupid stuff he does.
Believe it or not, these shows influents a lot on how players are seen.
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On July 13 2012 03:49 Seekzor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 03:34 Ragnarork wrote:On July 13 2012 03:26 Seekzor wrote:On July 12 2012 23:20 Ragnarork wrote:On July 12 2012 23:18 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 12 2012 23:13 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 23:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On July 12 2012 23:05 LakseWim wrote:On July 12 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 22:52 udgnim wrote:
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if you haven't noticed yet a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags and I cheer for Naniwa because he's one of the hardest working foreigners out there and genuinely wants to become one of the best SC2 pros out there Apart from Idra, there aren't any successful foreign SC2 pros that I can think of. Who are you thinking of? nice try troll You lurked forever But you still should not call SeaSwift of all people a troll The hidden assumption here (correct me if I'm wrong) is that only GSL results matter, and then it's indeed Jinro, Idra and Naniwa, right? Edit: Forgot Huk -.- No, he's actually right there. That isn't something I would say. I was responding to someone who said "a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags" and meant to put the word "douchebag" between 'successful' and 'foreign', but I missed it out -_- my bad The thing is that Naniwa isn't a douchbag. He's a passionate character with a bit of a troubled past that likes to speak his mind. I see so many people on these forums misrepresent Naniwa's personality. I guess that's the cost of being different. Well, he actually DID some very wrong things such as the probe rush or some disrespectful statements in interviews, but come on, he's calmed down since and this doesn't mean the guy's whole personality is trash. Btw, seeing how IdrA gets so much support given his personality, i'm surprised people are bitching about Naniwa... I don't want to judge IdrA, but he is quite more BM, etc. than Naniwa... He's friends with people with a lot of shows,popular casters and being part of the best starcraft 2 team when it comes to marketing. That means people hear more good about IdrA than they hear about Naniwa. Trying to understand, you're saying it could be a lot better if Quantic managed to "market" him more ? (Or it has just to do with the investment in shows, and relations withs popular casters ?) What I'm trying to say is that EG works a lot with marketing their players, and are damn good at it. IdrA is on a lot of shows interacting with the community. It's also no secret that he's friends with the others on these shows. This means that IdrA is rarely discussed by them in a negative way. Naniwa on the other hand is for most people only visible in interviews at tournaments when he's under pressure to perform, speaking a language that isn't his native one. At the same time it's quite known that some of the people on these shows doesn't like Naniwa and are talking about him being anti-social, bad mannered and laughing about stupid stuff he does. Believe it or not, these shows influents a lot on how players are seen.
Thanks for clarifying this.
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On July 13 2012 03:39 Domus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 03:17 MVega wrote:On July 13 2012 02:57 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 02:39 fishjie wrote:On July 13 2012 02:01 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:58 Heavenlee wrote:On July 13 2012 01:52 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:08 MVega wrote:On July 12 2012 23:18 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 12 2012 23:13 SeaSwift wrote:
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No, he's actually right there. That isn't something I would say.
I was responding to someone who said "a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags" and meant to put the word "douchebag" between 'successful' and 'foreign', but I missed it out -_- my bad The thing is that Naniwa isn't a douchbag. He's a passionate character with a bit of a troubled past and likes to speak his mind. I see so many people on these forums misrepresent Naniwa's personality as one with 'malicious' intent. I guess that's the cost of being different. Anyway, there will always be haters. All I know is that Naniwa proved a lot of people wrong tonight. No, Naniwa definitely goes beyond being passionate. Please don't think I'm just a random Naniwa hater, because it's not that. It's not a secret that I don't like him, but I'm not one of those people that doesn't like him just because he's popular or whatever. Like I said earlier in the thread in Providence I didn't know him, I didn't really think anything of him good or bad at the time. I barely knew who he was, I'd just heard his name once or twice before. I was getting autographs from pro players, and it was a great experience, the pro players tend to be a great group of people that laugh and joke and are generally friendly. Then there was Naniwa, who I didn't know, and I felt bad not asking for his autograph because I had gotten literally everyone else's in the room, so I thought I would ask him so he didn't feel left out and insulted. He asked me what if he didn't want to give his autograph, and I just smiled and shrugged because everyone else was good natured and the mood was pretty good and he just exploded. Other pro players and their people shuffled away, and then he stormed off after about 7 mouthfuls of abuse while I was trying to figure out what set him off and trying to calm him down. Other fans apologised to me for him. >.< So yeah, to me, I think he's a jerk. If he's changed since then well then good, but I've got no way of knowing that, but speaking as someone that met him not THAT long ago he definitely had a very angry streak. That experience totally messed up the rest of that MLG for me. All that said I'm glad that he performed better today than I expected him to because even if I don't necessarily like a person I do enjoy seeing people improve and play better games. Edit: And for people comparing him to IdrA ... IdrA is actually pretty laid back in person. Had a great experience with him talking about making the IdrA face. We were talking and laughing and I asked him if it's ever difficult for him to make the IdrA face. Mid-laugh he just stopped and put on the :-| face, and it was hilarious. Hahaha, that story is awesome. This story only makes me like Nani more. I really like it when people are not just big pussies all the time, and Naniwa can be a dick when he needs to be. I don't get why people expect pros to always walk around like big carebears. Naniwa isn't a cuddly toy there to please you dude, he is a SC2 beast who wants to rip out throats! Anyway, sounds like you deserved it. Walking up to Naniwa for a pitty autograph and then being suprised that the guy just does not roll over for you... Also, the results suck, Naniwa should have won. Let's not put our standards here like it is ok he lost to DRG, he should not lose. Next time, Naniwa GSL champion, nothing less! ...Chances seem very high you have some sort of social problem. A shit I give not. Seriously though...crying nerds sometimes tire me out, and then I can't do anything but laugh at their spineless behaviour, sue me. so glad naniwa lost you sound like a sociopath and so does naniwa. you dont cuss people out for asking for an autograph. the two of you sound like a match made in heaven, just don't become a serial killer. Lol, it just amazes me that people actually think the story happened the way he tells it . You would have been a good help in the witchhunts, shame you were born a couple of centuries too late. Sorry you don't believe me, but that's how it happened. I wish it didn't, but it did, so yeah. Secondly I didn't "walk up to him" for a pity autograph, and it's not like he was doing anything else and it's not like I got all up in his personal space, and I didn't get get surprised that he didn't "just roll over" for me. I was surprised because he was so aggressive about it. He didn't have to get hostile, all he had to do was say no or even not say anything, it's not like I'm emo that I didn't get his autograph, I only asked if he wanted to because I was being good mannered. I don't really see how any of my experience makes me spineless, but okay dude. Ok, then explain to me why he would react the way you are describing when you were nothing but positive, nice and angelic to him? What makes it spineless is that you could have confronted him there, asked for an apology. Or you could have contacted him by e-mail and explained how you perceived the situation and then Naniwa would probably have apologized for the situation (he has apologized to fans before if he lashes out when he is under stress). But instead, you decide to repeatedly post this same story about Naniwa(no, this not your first time is it now), and yes, I think that is spineless, be a man about it and confront him instead of talking shit about him on threads.
Considering stories from respected community members which show Naniwa to randomly be an aggressive bastard based on no provocation it's really not remotely difficult to believe this story.
Maybe it's all a conspiracy and everyone is lying. Or maybe he's just an unpleasant person.
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On July 13 2012 02:51 Kiett wrote:
Yay DRG! :D
Next time make it 3-0.
betraying protoss brethren >:O
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hahahahahaha GOOOO DRG !!!
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On July 13 2012 03:36 Antoinethedouche wrote:
DRG so sick, another GSL title for sure now.
not if he doesn't play on point.. vs nani he seemed rather shaky. I am rooting for him but.. he needs to be playing better than he did vs nani to take the next title.. byun looks mighty scary if you arent playing your best (nestea will confirm this)
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On July 13 2012 03:36 Antoinethedouche wrote:
DRG so sick, another GSL title for sure now.
DRH got beat by HerO 5-2 at IPL this weekend. Last night he barely scraped by Naniwa 3-2.
He's not getting past MC, let alone my Seedu.
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On July 13 2012 02:04 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:01 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:58 Heavenlee wrote:On July 13 2012 01:52 Domus wrote:On July 13 2012 01:08 MVega wrote:On July 12 2012 23:18 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 12 2012 23:13 SeaSwift wrote:On July 12 2012 23:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On July 12 2012 23:05 LakseWim wrote:On July 12 2012 22:57 SeaSwift wrote:
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Apart from Idra, there aren't any successful foreign SC2 pros that I can think of. Who are you thinking of? nice try troll You lurked forever But you still should not call SeaSwift of all people a troll The hidden assumption here (correct me if I'm wrong) is that only GSL results matter, and then it's indeed Jinro, Idra and Naniwa, right? Edit: Forgot Huk -.- No, he's actually right there. That isn't something I would say. I was responding to someone who said "a lot of foreign SC pros are douchebags" and meant to put the word "douchebag" between 'successful' and 'foreign', but I missed it out -_- my bad The thing is that Naniwa isn't a douchbag. He's a passionate character with a bit of a troubled past and likes to speak his mind. I see so many people on these forums misrepresent Naniwa's personality as one with 'malicious' intent. I guess that's the cost of being different. Anyway, there will always be haters. All I know is that Naniwa proved a lot of people wrong tonight. No, Naniwa definitely goes beyond being passionate. Please don't think I'm just a random Naniwa hater, because it's not that. It's not a secret that I don't like him, but I'm not one of those people that doesn't like him just because he's popular or whatever. Like I said earlier in the thread in Providence I didn't know him, I didn't really think anything of him good or bad at the time. I barely knew who he was, I'd just heard his name once or twice before. I was getting autographs from pro players, and it was a great experience, the pro players tend to be a great group of people that laugh and joke and are generally friendly. Then there was Naniwa, who I didn't know, and I felt bad not asking for his autograph because I had gotten literally everyone else's in the room, so I thought I would ask him so he didn't feel left out and insulted. He asked me what if he didn't want to give his autograph, and I just smiled and shrugged because everyone else was good natured and the mood was pretty good and he just exploded. Other pro players and their people shuffled away, and then he stormed off after about 7 mouthfuls of abuse while I was trying to figure out what set him off and trying to calm him down. Other fans apologised to me for him. >.< So yeah, to me, I think he's a jerk. If he's changed since then well then good, but I've got no way of knowing that, but speaking as someone that met him not THAT long ago he definitely had a very angry streak. That experience totally messed up the rest of that MLG for me. All that said I'm glad that he performed better today than I expected him to because even if I don't necessarily like a person I do enjoy seeing people improve and play better games. Edit: And for people comparing him to IdrA ... IdrA is actually pretty laid back in person. Had a great experience with him talking about making the IdrA face. We were talking and laughing and I asked him if it's ever difficult for him to make the IdrA face. Mid-laugh he just stopped and put on the :-| face, and it was hilarious. Hahaha, that story is awesome. This story only makes me like Nani more. I really like it when people are not just big pussies all the time, and Naniwa can be a dick when he needs to be. I don't get why people expect pros to always walk around like big carebears. Naniwa isn't a cuddly toy there to please you dude, he is a SC2 beast who wants to rip out throats! Anyway, sounds like you deserved it. Walking up to Naniwa for a pitty autograph and then being suprised that the guy just does not roll over for you... Also, the results suck, Naniwa should have won. Let's not put our standards here like it is ok he lost to DRG, he should not lose. Next time, Naniwa GSL champion, nothing less! ...Chances seem very high you have some sort of social problem. A shit I give not. Seriously though...crying nerds sometimes tire me out, and then I can't do anything but laugh at their spineless behaviour, sue me. Social disorder confirmed. Good luck with that one. A guy politely asking a pro for his autograph at an event where pros are signing autographs, then the guy who plays video games for a living rages because of this, makes the FAN a crying nerd? Right.
hahahhahahahah. Logic.
You are the example of how people can be so wrong about things by making rash judgments and agreeing with each other, piggybacking unfounded statements onto unfounded statements to make a 'surefire' conclusion. You are a big part of what is wrong with this world and one of humanities biggest flaws. Those things where no one agrees with what ends up being the truth, and everyone ends up finding out they were all wrong collectively? Usually rumors started by those who abide by your logic.
Disgusting.
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On July 13 2012 01:55 Grampz wrote:
MAD props to naniwa. i am not a fan but damn, that guy is really stepping up his game this year
I agree. I'm proud of his performance. He worked his ass off, and considering his PvZ is notoriously weak (for him), and he's playing the best Zerg player in the world, taking the series to an ace match is no small feat.
Would have beaten Nestea today, that's for sure.
Well done, Naniwa. You've shown us yet again that you deserve to be here in Code S.
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Naniwa is in an unfortunate situation where because of some legitimately stupid things he's done in the past, every deviation he makes now from the norm is going to be called out and scrutinized, particularly by people who already actively dislike him. It's a pretty unfortunate confirmation bias. Naniwa takes everything pretty seriously (sometimes stupid stuff but also including practicing hard to 2-3 DRG) and that's sometimes not accepted by people.
Stephano is like the exact opposite. He's not serious at all but he's still very good and people like him because he's a pretty cool guy. But because he's generally liked, he gets away with stuff like telling HasuObs to kill some jews to relax. I don't think that joke is that big of a deal but imagine Naniwa making a joke like that. He'd be crucified.
Naniwa will never be the people's champ. It's too bad because I think his passion and dedication are really quite admirable and impressive.
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On July 13 2012 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 01:55 Grampz wrote:
MAD props to naniwa. i am not a fan but damn, that guy is really stepping up his game this year I agree. I'm proud of his performance. He worked his ass off, and considering his PvZ is notoriously weak (for him), and he's playing the best Zerg player in the world, taking the series to an ace match is no small feat. Would have beaten Nestea today, that's for sure. Well done, Naniwa. You've shown us yet again that you deserve to be here in Code S.
Very well stated. Though I'm not a fan of his attitude, he HAS stepped it up.
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On July 13 2012 04:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 01:55 Grampz wrote:
MAD props to naniwa. i am not a fan but damn, that guy is really stepping up his game this year I agree. I'm proud of his performance. He worked his ass off, and considering his PvZ is notoriously weak (for him), and he's playing the best Zerg player in the world, taking the series to an ace match is no small feat. Would have beaten Nestea today, that's for sure. Well done, Naniwa. You've shown us yet again that you deserve to be here in Code S.
It's even more impressive given the fact that he was 0 - 6 against DRG and that vZ is his worst match-up.
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On July 12 2012 21:05 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 20:53 chambertin wrote:On July 12 2012 20:52 xrapture wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!
Skill prevails! DRG <33333333333 wtf. sigh. They are both very skilled players. Anyone that tries to deny this needs just stop it now... I have my opinion, you have yours. I respect a player who earned his way into Code S more than someone given a welfare seed. Things turned out the way the should have.
This post really bothered me, but I was too exhausted last night to say anything.
DRG "earned" his seed by coming in third at an MLG. He never "earned" it by fighting through Code A and then Up and Downs. The same way NaNi earned his seed by coming in second at an MLG and beating DRG at Providence. So don't be an idiot who either hasn't been around and doesn't check facts or just needlessly hates on players.
I respect your biases, but don't try to back them up with erroneous statements. Your only basis for thinking NaNi is a bad player is your opinion of his play, not his results or his "welfare" status.
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On July 13 2012 05:08 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:05 xrapture wrote:On July 12 2012 20:53 chambertin wrote:On July 12 2012 20:52 xrapture wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!
Skill prevails! DRG <33333333333 wtf. sigh. They are both very skilled players. Anyone that tries to deny this needs just stop it now... I have my opinion, you have yours. I respect a player who earned his way into Code S more than someone given a welfare seed. Things turned out the way the should have. This post really bothered me, but I was too exhausted last night to say anything. DRG "earned" his seed by coming in third at an MLG. He never "earned" it by fighting through Code A and then Up and Downs. The same way NaNi earned his seed by coming in second at an MLG and beating DRG at Providence. So don't be an idiot who either hasn't been around and doesn't check facts or just needlessly hates on players. I respect your biases, but don't try to back them up with erroneous statements. Your only basis for thinking NaNi is a bad player is your opinion of his play, not his results or his "welfare" status.
And moreover, no matter how he got there, he didn't get owned in the Ro32 like "You don't belong here"...
We could mention a few foreigners (HuK, Sen, IdrA) who didn't make it very far with their seeds (i don't want to say incorrect facts about HuK, but last time we saw IdrA and Sen, they were sent to Code A in the Ro32, and only Sen managed to go past Ro48).
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