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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3041
On July 07 2012 05:16 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:14 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:09 mambar wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:02 Gorlin wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:59 Papulatus wrote:
Haha how did Monci beat MVP


When was Mvp especially good at TvP?

Are you kidding? When he has over a 60% win rate and just won a GSL beating Naniwa, Parting, and Squirtle along the way? Nice joke


Derp derp derp Mvp studies his opponents and devised clever all-ins that allow him to barely win a GSL. Now he loses 2-1 to an opponent whose style he doesn't know and everyone is shocked. I feel like I'm posting in Reddit today.

Then go post there. Did you even see the finals? As someone just noted, Mvp played more macro games against toss than all ins last season, so stop spouting bullshit


Yeah because macro game never involve timings or mindgames right? But go on and keeping believing that this was some unpredictable upset. TvP was always Mvp's weakest matchup.


This was an unpredictable upset, and TvP USED to be his worst matchup. It's probably one of his best now. His TvZ is pretty poor and his TvT is still probably his best when he is playing well. I would say his TvT > TvP > TvZ


To be fair, his TvZ was slowly declining even since his wrist injury started to worsen. It really hurts his micro and how well he can set his army up. I wouldn't call his TvT particularly poor either, he only lost to players on hot streaks in the GSL (Gumiho and Taeja).
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3042
Happy makes a lot of good observations.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3043
On July 07 2012 05:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I hope the HOTS game Grubby's casting for WCS is the v Battle Report. v is by far the worst nonmirror matchup.

I definitely see MVP gravitating towards mech in HOTS.


Eh, that was a misunderstanding according to grubby, there's no showmatch. And TvP is not the worst nonmirror, lol. Im pretty sure thats TvZ right now...
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3044
Is this Happy casting with Dimaga? So hilarious lmfao. "WHY HE____"
Stormiii
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland239 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3045
On July 07 2012 05:20 Fragile51 wrote:
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On July 07 2012 05:19 power-overwhelming wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:15 kimchikid wrote:
Guys relax. MVP will probably beat Nightend up badly, advance to the final, meet MC and win the whole tournament. Dont judge too early.

Sase so terrible commentator. You guys so polite not to hate it loudly!


lol next thing you know he doesnt advance from his group.

Then 80 pages of MVP fanyboy tears will spam the LR


Well to be fair, and this is coming from quite the MVP fan, the level of play he's showing right now is not fit for advancing to the next round, regardless of previous accomplishments. He's playing so insanely sloppy..

He didnt play sloppy, had one huge mistake in both those games which were no ghosts and thats why he lost both of those games.
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3046
So did Nerchio vs Socke match was actually casted anywhere? The score says 2-1 for Nerchio which actually dont make any difference because Nerchio is 6-2 overall and there is plenty of players with 6-1 record.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3047
Nightend is always too passive and messes up his timings. He really should be either: on top of timing of hive-morph OR blindly prepare with earlier templar and mship.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3048
NIGHTEND GOES FOR THE KILL!!!!
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 06 2012 20:23 GMT
#3049
MVP isnt a weekly cup / qualifer type player, its MKP.

but MVP would rather have time to pick out exactly how he wants to play against a certain player, thats why he is a 4 time GSL champion.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3050
Whut, I'm not paying much attention but Nightend is in a great position.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3051
On July 07 2012 05:12 Asha` wrote:
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On July 07 2012 05:10 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.


I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.


Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.

I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.


Did you play this flute when Mvp cheesed the hell out of Naniwa?


I only play the piano. And I don't get your point, you know MVP is the best player in the history of SC2 and showed he was capable of playing all kinds of games vs Protoss that season.

Monchi's not remotely close to Nani's level either.


My point is that your posts are usually not soaked in bitterness and bias like after this series.
To my recollection you usually post quality posts based on reasoning and not pure emotion.
Maybe I'm wrong but that's just what I'm thinking.

If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3052
Happy + Dimaga casting is very entertaining :D
"This is fucking Sparta!"
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
Eralur
Profile Joined June 2012
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 20:25:04
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3053
On July 07 2012 05:19 The KY wrote:
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On July 07 2012 05:16 Eralur wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:12 The KY wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:10 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.


I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.


Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.

I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.


Did you play this flute when Mvp cheesed the hell out of Naniwa?


Chill, he's not whining about it (well not exactly), Monchi is undeniably the inferior player and he'd know that his only chance would be to play tricksy.


Not really his only chance, the other chance would be mvp making mistakes ( yes that does happen to the UNDENIABLE BEST SC2 PLAYER OF ALL TIME )



Well I mean...a group of 11 schoolchildren could play Barcelona at football and hope they screw up but if they want to win it might be a better idea to run into the box with the ball and dive like a motherfucker.



Portugal won vs 100 chinese children

Its a lot harder to screw up at football were all you have to do is run and shoot while keeping an eye on the enemy teams movement... no tell me how much more you have to do/mange in a way smaller timeframe
that and the inherent physical superiority of full grown men versus children who are half as tall

your comparison doesnt hold up whatsoever
Stick with the Prod
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3054
NightEnd going to beat Golden in game 1
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3055
Guys, ignore results and just look at the games. Call me when any foreign terran can play a game like Ryung vs DRG game 1, or when a foreign zerg (including stephano) can play a game like Symbol vs MKP.
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5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3056
"This is madness! Im not trolling!" Dima best :D
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3057
Whos the doode who looks like shaggy from scoobydo.
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Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3058
On July 07 2012 05:22 Whatson wrote:
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On July 07 2012 05:20 -TesteR- wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:18 Whatson wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

MKP, Symbol, DRG, Taeja, HerO, Squirtle, MC, PartinG, CoCa, Happy, Creator...I could add more but I won't


Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain, Kas... I could add more but I won't

The only person who's actually done well in Korea of that bunch is Naniwa. And you only listed 4 while I listed 11.


That's cause Korea's only important event takes 2-3 months to finish so you have to basically live there. How many Dreamhacks have been won by Koreans this year?
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 06 2012 20:24 GMT
#3059
On July 07 2012 05:19 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:18 Swords wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:09 mambar wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:02 Gorlin wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:59 Papulatus wrote:
Haha how did Monci beat MVP


When was Mvp especially good at TvP?

Are you kidding? When he has over a 60% win rate and just won a GSL beating Naniwa, Parting, and Squirtle along the way? Nice joke


Derp derp derp Mvp studies his opponents and devised clever all-ins that allow him to barely win a GSL. Now he loses 2-1 to an opponent whose style he doesn't know and everyone is shocked. I feel like I'm posting in Reddit today.

Then go post there. Did you even see the finals? As someone just noted, Mvp played more macro games against toss than all ins last season, so stop spouting bullshit


Two of Mvp's wins in the finals were "cheese" wins. Including a sub 10 minute game on Daybreak. And a double proxy rax to win the finals. Half of his finals wins were cheeses, which I honestly respect a lot because he's one of the smartest players out there and he knew it would work. Don't try and say he did great against P in macro games though.

Read the recaps. Actually do research before telling people to stop "spouting bullshit".


Haha did you seriously try to say a marine/hellion drop expand build is cheese. lol.

It's not an example of a "macro game" but it certainly wasn't cheese xD


I got it wrong I guess I won't trust the recaps again, because reading it made it sound like a 1-1-1 and I honestly didn't remember how that game went. It's difficult to go dig up a VOD when you're trying to watch a tournament and post in the LR thread at the same time. Forgive me.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 06 2012 20:25 GMT
#3060
On July 07 2012 05:17 Crowned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:16 Eralur wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:16 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

the top 50-100 Korean players can probably beat the top 50 foreigners O.O

And they can all probably loose to them aswell


Why is the word "lose" so hard for everyone.


Because that's how it sounds like it would be spelled?
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