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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 20:20:50
July 06 2012 20:19 GMT
#3021
On July 07 2012 05:18 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:09 mambar wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:02 Gorlin wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:59 Papulatus wrote:
Haha how did Monci beat MVP


When was Mvp especially good at TvP?

Are you kidding? When he has over a 60% win rate and just won a GSL beating Naniwa, Parting, and Squirtle along the way? Nice joke


Derp derp derp Mvp studies his opponents and devised clever all-ins that allow him to barely win a GSL. Now he loses 2-1 to an opponent whose style he doesn't know and everyone is shocked. I feel like I'm posting in Reddit today.

Then go post there. Did you even see the finals? As someone just noted, Mvp played more macro games against toss than all ins last season, so stop spouting bullshit


Two of Mvp's wins in the finals were "cheese" wins. Including a sub 10 minute game on Daybreak. And a double proxy rax to win the finals. Half of his finals wins were cheeses, which I honestly respect a lot because he's one of the smartest players out there and he knew it would work. Don't try and say he did great against P in macro games though.

Read the recaps. Actually do research before telling people to stop "spouting bullshit".


Haha did you seriously try to say a marine/hellion drop expand build is cheese. lol.

It's not an example of a "macro game" but it certainly wasn't cheese xD
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#3022
On July 07 2012 05:19 power-overwhelming wrote:
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On July 07 2012 05:15 kimchikid wrote:
Guys relax. MVP will probably beat Nightend up badly, advance to the final, meet MC and win the whole tournament. Dont judge too early.

Sase so terrible commentator. You guys so polite not to hate it loudly!


lol next thing you know he doesnt advance from his group.

Then 80 pages of MVP fanyboy tears will spam the LR


Well to be fair, and this is coming from quite the MVP fan, the level of play he's showing right now is not fit for advancing to the next round, regardless of previous accomplishments. He's playing so insanely sloppy..
Eralur
Profile Joined June 2012
58 Posts
July 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#3023
On July 07 2012 05:17 Crowned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:16 Eralur wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:16 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

the top 50-100 Korean players can probably beat the top 50 foreigners O.O

And they can all probably loose to them aswell


Why is the word "lose" so hard for everyone.


Dunno maybe because everyone is using the english language pretty "loosely" when they post on the internet :>
Stick with the Prod
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
July 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#3024
Join the B stream for awesome Russian/Ukranian accents
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
July 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#3025
On July 07 2012 05:18 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

MKP, Symbol, DRG, Taeja, HerO, Squirtle, MC, PartinG, CoCa, Happy, Creator...I could add more but I won't


Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain, Kas... I could add more but I won't
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 20:20:55
July 06 2012 20:20 GMT
#3026
On July 07 2012 05:19 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:16 Eralur wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:12 The KY wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:10 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.


I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.


Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.

I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.


Did you play this flute when Mvp cheesed the hell out of Naniwa?


Chill, he's not whining about it (well not exactly), Monchi is undeniably the inferior player and he'd know that his only chance would be to play tricksy.


Not really his only chance, the other chance would be mvp making mistakes ( yes that does happen to the UNDENIABLE BEST SC2 PLAYER OF ALL TIME )



Well I mean...a group of 11 schoolchildren could play Barcelona at football and hope they screw up but if they want to win it might be a better idea to run into the box with the ball and dive like a motherfucker.


And get Messi sent-off Busquets style!
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#3027
So, if Nightend (regardless of his match vs golden) takes one map of MVP, MVP is out but please correct me.
Knight79
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 20:23:01
July 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#3028
Why on earth they let DBS playing 3 games in a row and Nightend 2 really important games in a row?
This is bad scheduling.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#3029
On July 07 2012 05:20 Eralur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:17 Crowned wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:16 Eralur wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:16 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

the top 50-100 Korean players can probably beat the top 50 foreigners O.O

And they can all probably loose to them aswell


Why is the word "lose" so hard for everyone.


Dunno maybe because everyone is using the english language pretty "loosely" when they post on the internet :>


Ugh, forums are such a loose loose situation.


...I'll take my leave...
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
July 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#3030
The Ret prank is funny. He may have a point honestly, but I don't think you can expect casters to know or gather everyone's twitter handle at every event.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
July 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#3031
Does Nightend really beat golden? Oo
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3032
HomeStoryCup just has the best sponsor advertising of all events, hands down!
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3033
On July 07 2012 05:21 Knight79 wrote:
Why on earth they let DBS playing 3 games in row and Nightend 2 really important games in a row?
This is bad scheduling.


Yeah pretty unfair imo.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 20:24:34
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3034
On July 07 2012 05:20 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:18 Whatson wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

MKP, Symbol, DRG, Taeja, HerO, Squirtle, MC, PartinG, CoCa, Happy, Creator...I could add more but I won't


Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain, Kas... I could add more but I won't

The only person who's actually done well in Korea of that bunch is Naniwa. And you only listed 4 while I listed 11.
Actually who else would you list? Nerchio, HuK, and Sase maybe, but that's it lol.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3035
On July 07 2012 05:20 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:18 Whatson wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

MKP, Symbol, DRG, Taeja, HerO, Squirtle, MC, PartinG, CoCa, Happy, Creator...I could add more but I won't


Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain, Kas... I could add more but I won't


You mean Naniwa and Stephano.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3036
On July 07 2012 05:20 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:18 Whatson wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

MKP, Symbol, DRG, Taeja, HerO, Squirtle, MC, PartinG, CoCa, Happy, Creator...I could add more but I won't


Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain, Kas... I could add more but I won't


The funny thing is, you can't. And there are about 50 koreans in code a and b that could beat any of those guys.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3037
I hope the HOTS game Grubby's casting for WCS is the v Battle Report. v is by far the worst nonmirror matchup.

I definitely see MVP gravitating towards mech in HOTS.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3038
On July 07 2012 05:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:18 Swords wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:09 mambar wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:02 Gorlin wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 04:59 Papulatus wrote:
Haha how did Monci beat MVP


When was Mvp especially good at TvP?

Are you kidding? When he has over a 60% win rate and just won a GSL beating Naniwa, Parting, and Squirtle along the way? Nice joke


Derp derp derp Mvp studies his opponents and devised clever all-ins that allow him to barely win a GSL. Now he loses 2-1 to an opponent whose style he doesn't know and everyone is shocked. I feel like I'm posting in Reddit today.

Then go post there. Did you even see the finals? As someone just noted, Mvp played more macro games against toss than all ins last season, so stop spouting bullshit


Two of Mvp's wins in the finals were "cheese" wins. Including a sub 10 minute game on Daybreak. And a double proxy rax to win the finals. Half of his finals wins were cheeses, which I honestly respect a lot because he's one of the smartest players out there and he knew it would work. Don't try and say he did great against P in macro games though.

Read the recaps. Actually do research before telling people to stop "spouting bullshit".


The build in game 1 was an expansion build, squirtle just failed at defending. go rewatch the vod you can see him plant the CC on the low ground as squirtle tried to attack him with the stalkers.


Good point. I stand corrected. Either way, what he did in GSL doesn't have bearing on how he did against Monchi - he didn't scout a hidden third. He didn't have more than one bunker against the templar/archon/chargelot all in in game 2 (watch Thorzain play against that build). And he caught up in game 1 because Monchi had a horrible engagement up a ramp where he lost 3 colossi without target-firing a viking. Sometimes great players have bad days. I hope Mvp makes it out of his group though because he's fun to watch when he's on.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3039
On July 07 2012 05:20 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:18 Whatson wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:14 NeuTrons12 wrote:
No need to go to korea lol so many foreigners beat koreans ^^ its only like 5 - 7 koreans that are better vs the top foreigner the rest is soo close..

MKP, Symbol, DRG, Taeja, HerO, Squirtle, MC, PartinG, CoCa, Happy, Creator...I could add more but I won't


Naniwa, Stephano, Thorzain, Kas... I could add more but I won't

Nani & Steph are somewhere around #10 worldwide I guess, but the rest... quite the jump down
pyrXx
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany156 Posts
July 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#3040
On July 07 2012 05:22 Serinox wrote:
HomeStoryCup just has the best sponsor advertising of all events, hands down!

they are still playing on stream 2 http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TaKeTV2
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