I don't think idra would make it even if he played in all the qualifiers. He doesn't like to play from a slight disadvantage and there are too many europeans in the qualifiers. With BO1's till ro32, he would easily get cheesed/all in'd. But yeah, all of these are assumptions / my thoughts.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
It was a walkover for bischu in the final, naniwa went to sleep since the match was only for seeding.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
It was a walkover for bischu in the final, naniwa went to sleep since the match was only for seeding.
Well when was the last time Idra beat anyone close to the level of Sase ? In TLPD he is listed under guys like Forsen, Xlord, Sortof etc and I would rate Lalush def higher for example. But ye we may just disagree on this one.
On July 04 2012 09:01 Kenpark wrote: Well when was the last time Idra beat anyone close to the level of Sase ? In TLPD he is listed under guys like Forsen, Xlord, Sortof etc and I would rate Lalush def higher for example. But ye we may just disagree on this one.
He beat MVPTails at the last MLG. Who's about as good as Sase.
Plus everyone knows anyone can win in PvP especially in a best of three, winning 2-1 over Sase in PvP doesn't really impress me at all far less than winning a ZvP vs Tails.
He also beat Inori at the MLG before that, who is again about as good as Sase.
And finally he beat Supernova (who's considerably better than Sase) at the IEM World Championships.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
Lol right. Yeah they have a lot, but definitely not someones you would actually lose to.
They have like 100 players in NA grand master league alone and anyone in GM is capable of beating any Swedish player on their day.
Dunno if serious at this point. We all know us ladder is weakest by far, but ye lets see how Idra does at homestory. He has one of the weakest groups for sure. Should be easy right ?
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
Lol right. Yeah they have a lot, but definitely not someones you would actually lose to.
They have like 100 players in NA grand master league alone and anyone in GM is capable of beating any Swedish player on their day.
Sase,Morrow,Naniwa,Thorzain? I cant see any NA GM players beat these in a BO5 not gonna happend.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
Lol right. Yeah they have a lot, but definitely not someones you would actually lose to.
They have like 100 players in NA grand master league alone and anyone in GM is capable of beating any Swedish player on their day.
Sase,Morrow,Naniwa,Thorzain? I cant see any NA GM players beat these in a BO5 not gonna happend.
I can see it happening, I just don't see them being favored to do it, but it's not ridiculously out of the question. Not 100 though. Btw you realize a number of people in NA gm are korean pros right lol.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
Lol right. Yeah they have a lot, but definitely not someones you would actually lose to.
They have like 100 players in NA grand master league alone and anyone in GM is capable of beating any Swedish player on their day.
Sase,Morrow,Naniwa,Thorzain? I cant see any NA GM players beat these in a BO5 not gonna happend.
That's a pretty absurd claim. There are plenty of NA GMs who are capable of beating them. They may not be favored, but the better player doesn't always win in SC2 unfortunately. Hell, just off the top of my head I know Sheth has bo3 wins over Morrow and Sase as recently as a month ago. That's one NA GM who can certainly beat all 4.
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.
Wrong. Sweden haven't had their WCS yet.
Bischu beat Sase 2-1 in a PvP, beat some random no names then beat Naniwa when both player had already qualified (not sure if Naniwa actually showed up or not).
That's not even close to finishing 4th in the WCS USA, a major LAN.
Plus while Swedish has more top players than America, the USA has more professional players (i.e players you can actually lose to) by a mile, second only to Korea.
Lol right. Yeah they have a lot, but definitely not someones you would actually lose to.
They have like 100 players in NA grand master league alone and anyone in GM is capable of beating any Swedish player on their day.
Sase,Morrow,Naniwa,Thorzain? I cant see any NA GM players beat these in a BO5 not gonna happend.
Don't be stupid all those games are more than capable of dropping games to NA players. Sheth is almost favoured against them given they're all (except Morrow) bad vs Zerg. Who the hell mentioned best of five's? Nobody. Stop exaggerating the point because your argument is bad.
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