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Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
July 03 2012 23:04 GMT
#1041
On July 04 2012 08:03 Chillton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:00 MCDayC wrote:
Dat piano music, Aphex Twin right? I only recognise it from Kanye West.


Someone answer this?? Must know song :'(


well, it IS aphex twin, but im having trouble finding the correct song :s
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
July 03 2012 23:04 GMT
#1042
Idra also has to protect his name. Losing to Koreans at MLG is fine. But if he would just lose to xyz in every qualifier, it would be really bad for his image.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
July 03 2012 23:05 GMT
#1043
On July 04 2012 08:02 Darion wrote:
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On July 04 2012 08:00 Kenpark wrote:
Has anybody from the US qualified yet btw ? EU seem to be dominating these cups hardcore.


Nope. No American has even reached a finals yet. However, Sheth is currently 6th and KawaiiRice is 10th on the point standings.


Select reached a finals didnt he? He counts as an American to me.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 23:07:43
July 03 2012 23:06 GMT
#1044
On July 04 2012 08:04 Kenpark wrote:
Idra also has to protect his name. Losing to Koreans at MLG is fine. But if he would just lose to xyz in every qualifier, it would be really bad for his image.


There's loads of tournaments now. This one is online, a lot of effort to qualify for unless you get lucky and win your first qualifier and not for that much money unless you finish top two.

So I can see why some players with busy schedules would chose to focus on other events.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
July 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#1045
On July 04 2012 08:04 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 07:59 SupLilSon wrote:
TSL going to be all Z and P and then MVP. Great.

Err, MVP didnt get invited and didnt even try to qualify.

As of now, Sting is the only 100% qualified terran, plus Select and Hack are above the points cutoff for now.
Good thing two of the three seeds are Terran I guess (Thorzain and Kas)


xD thanks for the correction, dunno why I mentioned MVP, meant to say ThorZain. I think I was subconsciously thinking of MVP being seeded into OSL, not TSL.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#1046
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.


How can you know if he doesn't participate ?
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#1047
On July 04 2012 08:04 Adron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:03 Chillton wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 MCDayC wrote:
Dat piano music, Aphex Twin right? I only recognise it from Kanye West.


Someone answer this?? Must know song :'(


well, it IS aphex twin, but im having trouble finding the correct song :s


here is the song if you want it
aphex twin - avril 14th
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
July 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#1048
On July 04 2012 08:02 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:01 vilg wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Kenpark wrote:
Has anybody from the US qualified yet btw ? EU seem to be dominating these cups hardcore.


no, but sheth and select (if you count him) will probably make it on points


yeah i'm hoping more NA players will qualify just to make it more "spread nationalities" It's a lot more fun to watch and perhaps some new up-coming players from NA can step up and show some good games?

All them up&coming players in NA...
I haven't heard of anyone new, at least when it comes to qualifying/tournament results. And it seems like everytime there is one in MLG it's almost certainly no one legit or a one-timer like YaTa, Goswser, Hawk, Wbc, TriMaster and the list goes on...
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
Chillton
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 23:11:53
July 03 2012 23:08 GMT
#1049
On July 04 2012 08:04 Adron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:03 Chillton wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 MCDayC wrote:
Dat piano music, Aphex Twin right? I only recognise it from Kanye West.


Someone answer this?? Must know song :'(


well, it IS aphex twin, but im having trouble finding the correct song :s


I love Aphex Twin, I'm looking for it too, no luck yet

EDIT Avril 14th? The one playing earlier sounded remixed a tad
Terran Fo' Life - Now Swarm Fo' Life :D
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 03 2012 23:08 GMT
#1050
^
creepy face above
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
July 03 2012 23:08 GMT
#1051
lol, oh Select. I turned the stream off after the second game in that series to do something else, came back to see that he 2raxed in the third game.

Select is someone who picks a build and sticks to it every single game. I remember he used to do 2rax concussive shell opening against protoss every game whether his opponent already knew about it or not. For some reason, he happened pick a cheese this time around.

1. Proxy 2rax
2. If the first bunker-in attempt failed, make more marines and attack again.
3. If the raxes are forced to lift off and go back home, then wall off and go double expo. Basically early aggression cheesed followed up by econ cheese.

I'm not sure if he's been practicing doing this against something like 10pool though.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 03 2012 23:09 GMT
#1052
On July 04 2012 08:07 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.


How can you know if he doesn't participate ?


MVP's also better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu despite not playing in the qualifiers.

So is Stephano and many others who clearly aren't making a real effort to qualify but most likely would qualify if they tried.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
July 03 2012 23:10 GMT
#1053
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.

But that was my point. I was objecting to your statement he would qualify by points. He might have but more likely would not considering the luck factor and the fact that better players are not able to comfortably do it. Also I doubt that in his current , though improving, form he is clearly better than those players you mentioned.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 03 2012 23:11 GMT
#1054
On July 04 2012 08:07 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:02 SilSol wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:01 vilg wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Kenpark wrote:
Has anybody from the US qualified yet btw ? EU seem to be dominating these cups hardcore.


no, but sheth and select (if you count him) will probably make it on points


yeah i'm hoping more NA players will qualify just to make it more "spread nationalities" It's a lot more fun to watch and perhaps some new up-coming players from NA can step up and show some good games?

All them up&coming players in NA...
I haven't heard of anyone new, at least when it comes to qualifying/tournament results. And it seems like everytime there is one in MLG it's almost certainly no one legit or a one-timer like YaTa, Goswser, Hawk, Wbc, TriMaster and the list goes on...


Well yeah you might be right but there are some new players popping up on the ladder like on EU server. Who knows they might just want to participate in the TSL quali? me myself and i perhaps want's to try this out if i have the time to play thru the entire tournament or today i was gonna play but my internet died so

It's a great opportunity for new players for sure and i think everyone trying to get their names out should try this quali and get pts for TSL main tournament.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 03 2012 23:14 GMT
#1055
On July 04 2012 08:10 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.

But that was my point. I was objecting to your statement he would qualify by points. He might have but more likely would not considering the luck factor and the fact that better players are not able to comfortably do it. Also I doubt that in his current , though improving, form he is clearly better than those players you mentioned.


I'd say making it through the MLG qualifiers for the Arena's twice and finishing 4th at WCS USA is better than anything those four players have done in the entire career's. Idra's has a shitty 2012, but he's still done better than those players ever have.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 03 2012 23:15 GMT
#1056
Please update Happy's qualifier points (+21) and SoLDisHero (+21).
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 23:17:00
July 03 2012 23:16 GMT
#1057
On July 04 2012 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:07 zezamer wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.


How can you know if he doesn't participate ?


MVP's also better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu despite not playing in the qualifiers.

So is Stephano and many others who clearly aren't making a real effort to qualify but most likely would qualify if they tried.

How is this relevant? MVP and Stephano are clearly on a completely different level than Idra and the others mentioned. Idra is not. Its just your own assumption that Idra is better than certain players you mentioned.
It is really pointless to claim Idra would win stuff he doesnt even particpate in, especially as he is someone who has a remarkable history of performing MUCH worse than expected.
Off-season = best season
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 03 2012 23:19 GMT
#1058
On July 04 2012 08:16 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:07 zezamer wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.


How can you know if he doesn't participate ?


MVP's also better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu despite not playing in the qualifiers.

So is Stephano and many others who clearly aren't making a real effort to qualify but most likely would qualify if they tried.

How is this relevant? MVP and Stephano are clearly on a completely different level than Idra and the others mentioned. Idra is not. Its just your own assumption that Idra is better than certain players you mentioned.
It is really pointless to claim Idra would win stuff he doesnt even particpate in, especially as he is someone who has a remarkable history of performing MUCH worse than expected.


1. The guy was suggesting you couldn't know someone was better without them playing in the same tournament. Which is a really ridiculous thing to say because some players (like Mvp and Stephano) are clearly better than the four he listed.

2. I never said Idra would win a qualifier, I said he would get through on points if he played in all the qualifiers.

3. Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
July 03 2012 23:25 GMT
#1059
Despite him repeatedly losing to 'worse' players than himself, Idra this year has still posted better results than any of those four players ever have with his 4th in WCS USA and qualifying for two MLG Arena's through the NA qualifier.


Well this is highly discussable with how weak the US scene really is atm. Bischu made his way through the swedish wcs qualifier at 2nd place I think. So that alone is worth more than Idra has done this year.

JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 03 2012 23:29 GMT
#1060
On July 04 2012 08:07 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:01 mcc wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:57 Redox wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 04 2012 07:51 Schelim wrote:
ret/idra cast?

dayum. better be some more ZvZs there!

means they won't be playing though i guess? =/

ret already won a qualifier so he cant play
idra hasnt played in a single qualifier so chances are he wont play


Idra usually refuses to play cross server so I guess that's why he's not playing. Plus given the growth of other tournaments TSL isn't really mandatory like it was a year ago.

I am sure being very unlikely to win one has nothing to do with it.


I think Idra would qualify on points in he entered every single one.

Remember he still makes it through the MLG NA qualifiers every time, he's playing bad sure but he's that bad.

Socke played a lot of qualifiers and is not going to make it probably and he is much better than Idra.


Socke's better than almost all the foreigners who have qualified. It doesn't always work like that.

Idra's better than JonnyRecco, Mycerion, Lalush and Bischu. He's more than capable of qualifying if he actually played in them all.


How can you know if he doesn't participate ?


I guess because Darkforce and Hasuobs are so dominant in the list and Socke is at least their level if not higher,
Anyways, Sheth and Golden still need to fight for their spot in the TSL 4 and I hope they manage to do it somehow,
it would be a bad omen for the NA scene if only Select was the one to qualify for TSL.
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