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[Code S] RO16 Group C GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 198

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BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 14:31:00
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#3941
GJ Nani. Haters gonna hate.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Reini
Profile Joined January 2011
19 Posts
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#3942
nice everything right in liquibets ^^
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
July 04 2012 14:31 GMT
#3943
Deserved 100%

Haters gunna hejt
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
July 04 2012 14:31 GMT
#3944
Oh me Oh my.......

NaNiwa makes it to Ro8 twice in a row this year...... damn NaNi!!!

Also, f u KeeN. If you're going to knock out my MMA to get to Code S, the least you could've done was go further than Ro16 >: (
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
July 04 2012 14:31 GMT
#3945
On July 04 2012 23:14 Beardedclam wrote:
Really sucks that Genius is trying to look for a new team now also. He forgets range and loses and now doesn't make it to round 8.

Well if you've been in code S for as many seasons as Genius has (9 or so?) and made the round of 16 last season it clearly shows he's someone any team would be happy to have so I think he'll find a team soon enough.

Reallllllly happy for Naniwa!

Most likely he'll face DRG or Nestea now though, so quarter finals will be very tough indeed for him now but amazing accomplishment no matter what happens from now on!
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#3946
On July 04 2012 23:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:16 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:12 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Plexa wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 ibo422 wrote:
did genuis had range? I missed it

No. Naniwa would have lost that fight if genius had range stupid way to lose

but good for nani!


NaNiwa still had more Archons, I believe. Would've been a closer fight, but I don't think it would've been a guarantee win for Genius.


You must be new to the game.

9 3/2 Collosus vs 7 3/0 Collosus = rape. Micro barely matters in late game PvP collosus wars.

He forgot range, that was that.


2 Collosi vs 5+ Archons. NaNiwa was down on Collosi because he was investing his gas into something else (in this case Archons). Just because you have more Collosi, doesn't mean you win the fight.


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On July 04 2012 23:16 SpiZe wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:12 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Plexa wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 ibo422 wrote:
did genuis had range? I missed it

No. Naniwa would have lost that fight if genius had range stupid way to lose

but good for nani!


NaNiwa still had more Archons, I believe. Would've been a closer fight, but I don't think it would've been a guarantee win for Genius.


You must be new to the game.

9 3/2 Collosus vs 7 3/0 Collosus = rape. Micro barely matters in late game PvP collosus wars.

He forgot range, that was that.


Then you are ignorant, micro is everything in lategame PvP, it's all about the guy that can force the better engagement. I agree that it didn't matter when you don't have range, but you can easily win a fight in PvP even if you are behind on ups if you have good micro. Doing simple stuff like pulling an immortal foward change the entire fight.


Two guys who definitely don't play Protoss at a decent level.

You get all your shit in front and your Colossus in back, you don't forget range and if you have better ups and/or more Colossus you win. Simple.

Microing only means your Colossus spend less time attacking, unless you Colossus are unprotected it's almost always counter productive to micro them, such is the quality of the unit design.



This is just wrong on so many levels. Genius's lack of Colossi micro is what caused him to lose the game on Cloud Kingdom, while Naniwa was actually target firing. It can be risky for sure, and if you screw up, the guy a-moving can roll you. But microing Colossi is many situations can be very important, Sase even micros his Colossi with a warp prism to reduce damage.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#3947
On July 04 2012 23:30 BadBinky wrote:
GJ Nani. Haters gonna hate.

Pretty much this, and I'm not even a fan :O
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
July 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#3948
Are you guys still not recognizing the same trolls over and over again?
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
July 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#3949
On July 04 2012 23:12 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:11 Nabes wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 Surriel wrote:
Genius hating life for picking Naniwa again now.


Well he outplayed Naniwa really but forgot collosus range. He'd had won 4-2 if he hadn't forgotten range.


excuses blah blah

Call it an excuse if you like, but nani got really really lucky in that game

I say that as a fan of naniwa as well


It's one way of looking at it, the other way of looking at it is that Genius deserved to lose because he didn't have enough mental composure in the final game to notice that his collossi had no range -- which SHOULD have been obvious, especially after poking to the watchtower that one time
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 04 2012 14:32 GMT
#3950
Is Naniwa's PvZ any good?

It's pretty safe bet the winner of group D will be a Zerg, in all honesty.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
July 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#3951
Well, the best thing for Starcraft 2 happened, so i'm happy
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#3952
NaNiwa, I have to say you are good! good luck against DRG in Ro8!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 04 2012 14:33 GMT
#3953
On July 04 2012 23:32 Nekovivie wrote:
Is Naniwa's PvZ any good?

It's pretty safe bet the winner of group D will be a Zerg, in all honesty.


His PvZ is awful.
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
July 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3954
On July 04 2012 23:14 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:12 Plexa wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:11 Nabes wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 Surriel wrote:
Genius hating life for picking Naniwa again now.


Well he outplayed Naniwa really but forgot collosus range. He'd had won 4-2 if he hadn't forgotten range.


excuses blah blah

Call it an excuse if you like, but nani got really really lucky in that game

I say that as a fan of naniwa as well

He was also very unlucky with that re-game, so that evens things out.


Good point!
taoito
Profile Joined July 2011
65 Posts
July 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3955
On July 04 2012 23:11 polyphonyEX wrote:
just woke up and....

NANIWA FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


'MERICA!

So appropriate for today too lol
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3956
On July 04 2012 23:29 Beardedclam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:26 najreteip wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:23 Beardedclam wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:21 Night Eyes wrote:
[image loading]

Guess Genius needs to practice some more ^^

Edit: taken form Khaldor's twitter.


More like Naniwa got knocked out early and was sitting behind him watching all his PvP builds. Pretty grimy if you ask me, but that's just how Naniwa is. I am surprised he has so many fans but it makes sense because most people wouldn't be his fan if he wasn't winning.

Come on now, I can understand if you're not a fan, but this...
have some dignity please


You thinks that's respectful? Right before your code S match you go and sit directly behind the person you are facing and watch how he plays? Of course genius is going to be using the same builds as Code S because he is trying to qualify for OSL. It's disgusting.

You need to look back at those games and tell me if Naniwa got a build order win there, then you may have a point.
Now you're just trying to find excuses for Genius' sloppy play.

And watching your opponents play beforehand is kinda what gsl is all about, I can guarantee you the Koreans do it too.
I have no quote!
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
July 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3957
On July 04 2012 23:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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On July 04 2012 23:24 Domus wrote:
I don't get all the butt hurt people in here. If your opponent makes a mistake that loses him the match, then it is NOT luck. You simply played better, because you did not make a mistake...sheesh...He did not research Thermal Lance, how can you still expect Genius to win...Genius had multiple blunders, terrible positioning, and bad decision making in the fight...Sure he did some things well, but I don't care how good you macro, mistakes like that are going to get punished at this level, and Naniwa deserved the win.


No it's not, it's pure luck. Absolutely 100% luck.

There is definitely a large part of Sc2 and all sports where if you play really well it makes your opponent look really bad and you can force errors. For example in football if you're a team who presses the ball high up if forces the opposition defence into errors because they are rushed on the ball.

This game was absolutely not one of those situations.

This game was the equivalent of a defender it back to the goalkeepers who then trips on the grass and the ball rolls into the net. There is no skill in that, there is nothing you've done to cause it.

Just like there was no skill on Naniwa's part to make Genius forget Thermal Lance. It was all on Genius. Naniwa lucked out completely in a game he otherwise looked likely to lose.


That is not luck...that is Genius making mistakes and losing the match for it. It does not matter if Naniwa did not force a mistake. For example, if you play a bronze player and he makes terrible errors, and you beat him while not playing your best...is that luck, or is the other guy just making more mistakes...And it was not just the Thermal lance, there were more mistakes. Also, Genius was not clearly stronger in the matches, it was not like Genius went 2-0 the first time...And also don't forget that Naniwa needed to change his playstyle because of a rematch, and still managed to come out on top.

There is just incredible bias from Naniwa haters here...Noone would be crying if this was Tyler playing, everybody would be ecstatic.
b8ed
Profile Joined May 2012
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 15:20:53
July 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3958
So many people are salty, I imagine americans.

gg Nani, really well played today. GL vs DRG.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 14:35:12
July 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#3959
Naniwa is the best player right now. No doubt. Haters gonna hate.
"!@€#" - as some guy said
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 04 2012 14:35 GMT
#3960
On July 04 2012 23:32 Nekovivie wrote:
Is Naniwa's PvZ any good?

It's pretty safe bet the winner of group D will be a Zerg, in all honesty.


Hell, maybe Ryung might pull another miracle. Honestly who thought that he would not only advance from his Ro32 group, but go 2-0 and 4-0 in maps?
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